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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
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