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There hasn't been a rise in crime but a rise in reports of crimes against muslims but most are later proven to be hoxes.

Second, not being politically correct means you don't adhere to what most deem to be acceptable terms and or definitions when speaking your points of view. It doesn't mean you're racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent isn't politically correct and may be wrong but one could make that argument with the use of facts. And someone could opposingly argue it's a systemic problem causing the violence in the inner cities. But saying to kill someone is just inciting violence. Pc just paints one argument as being morally superior to the other. We could argue all day on which examples are better but nonetheless you will always try and start off with the moral high ground attached to your side. "You don't hate minorities and women right? Well then you must agree with me".
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I never said not being politically correct implies you are racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent is a generalization, and a parochial one at that. You will definitely find many black neighborhoods that are violent, but nonetheless not ALL black neighborhoods are violent. If I could point out some violent white neighborhoods, would it be fair for me to say "white neighborhoods are violent", implying that anywhere where white people live is violent?
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There hasn't been a rise in crime but a rise in reports of crimes against muslims but most are later proven to be hoxes.

Second, not being politically correct means you don't adhere to what most deem to be acceptable terms and or definitions when speaking your points of view. It doesn't mean you're racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent isn't politically correct and may be wrong but one could make that argument with the use of facts. And someone could opposingly argue it's a systemic problem causing the violence in the inner cities. But saying to kill someone is just inciting violence. Pc just paints one argument as being morally superior to the other. We could argue all day on which examples are better but nonetheless you will always try and start off with the moral high ground attached to your side. "You don't hate minorities and women right? Well then you must agree with me".
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When police departments such as the NYPD have themselves reported that there have been an increase in both the number of hate crimes being reported and the number of hate crimes actually taking place, I'll take their word for it over yours. While it's true that some hate crime reports have been found to be hoaxes, I don't know how you conclude that "most" were hoaxes.
I never said not being politically correct implies you are racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent is a generalization, and a parochial one at that. You will definitely find many black neighborhoods that are violent, but nonetheless not ALL black neighborhoods are violent. If I could point out some violent white neighborhoods, would it be fair for me to say "white neighborhoods are violent", implying that anywhere where white people live is violent?
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When police departments such as the NYPD have themselves reported that there have been an increase in both the number of hate crimes being reported and the number of hate crimes actually taking place, I'll take their word for it over yours. While it's true that some hate crime reports have been found to be hoaxes, I don't know how you conclude that "most" were hoaxes.
I never said not being politically correct implies you are racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent is a generalization, and a parochial one at that. You will definitely find many black neighborhoods that are violent, but nonetheless not ALL black neighborhoods are violent. If I could point out some violent white neighborhoods, would it be fair for me to say "white neighborhoods are violent", implying that anywhere where white people live is violent?
Please link me actual cases of hate crimes, where there's an arrest. Not pictures of swastikas. I'm not impressed. And funny you take NYPD statistics hook, line and sinker when trying to make a point but then would argue that blacks and minorities are targeted by police. Which is it? Are the police targeting blacks or are they a trusted organization which one can blindly believe all the facts they report? It seems you pick and choose when to find a source credible or not. Besides, I've read at least 20 hate crime hoaxes. I've been to prison and know what real white supremacist shit looks like. And most the media reports look fake af. There becomes a point when you have to question the incidents being reported. Especially, when there's an obvious inclination for people to do the crimes themselves... They can do what ever they want and blame it on the evil white man. I grew up in violent neighborhoods and have been jumped a few times for being white, the reverse almost never happens nowadays. Also, I can go in some of the worst Hispanic and Black neighborhoods cuz I speak from an Og's perspective. Black neighborhoods are "generally" more dangerous. But that's not the arguement, which you avoid. The argument is that us discussing black neighborhoods being violent means one argument is seen as morally wrong even though it's factually right. And the other, morally right while it's factually wrong. Because leftist use pc to demonize, alienate and stifle debate and points of view that differ from their own.
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When police departments such as the NYPD have themselves reported that there have been an increase in both the number of hate crimes being reported and the number of hate crimes actually taking place, I'll take their word for it over yours. While it's true that some hate crime reports have been found to be hoaxes, I don't know how you conclude that "most" were hoaxes.
I never said not being politically correct implies you are racist. Saying black neighborhoods are violent is a generalization, and a parochial one at that. You will definitely find many black neighborhoods that are violent, but nonetheless not ALL black neighborhoods are violent. If I could point out some violent white neighborhoods, would it be fair for me to say "white neighborhoods are violent", implying that anywhere where white people live is violent?
Please link me actual cases of hate crimes, where there's an arrest. Not pictures of swastikas. I'm not impressed. And funny you take NYPD statistics hook, line and sinker when trying to make a point but then would argue that blacks and minorities are targeted by police. Which is it? Are the police targeting blacks or are they a trusted organization which one can blindly believe all the facts they report? It seems you pick and choose when to find a source credible or not. Besides, I've read at least 20 hate crime hoaxes. I've been to prison and know what real white supremacist shit looks like. And most the media reports look fake af. There becomes a point when you have to question the incidents being reported. Especially, when there's an obvious inclination for people to do the crimes themselves... They can do what ever they want and blame it on the evil white man. I grew up in violent neighborhoods and have been jumped a few times for being white, the reverse almost never happens nowadays. Also, I can go in some of the worst Hispanic and Black neighborhoods cuz I speak from an Og's perspective. Black neighborhoods are "generally" more dangerous. But that's not the arguement, which you avoid. The argument is that us discussing black neighborhoods being violent means one argument is seen as morally wrong even though it's factually right. And the other, morally right while it's factually wrong. Because leftist use pc to demonize, alienate and stifle debate and points of view that differ from their own.
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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
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Some degree of political correctness is necessary in order to maintain a prosperous social structure. But, it's difficult to walk the fine line between regulation, and censorship. On the smaller scale, I think disparaging remarks are less critical to a culture when made by the every day man, and as such it's hard to say explicitly that these people can't say this, or that. But, on a larger scale, these remarks have the potential to sway entire nations, and as such need to be regulated to some degree.

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Some degree of political correctness is necessary in order to maintain a prosperous social structure. But, it's difficult to walk the fine line between regulation, and censorship. On the smaller scale, I think disparaging remarks are less critical to a culture when made by the every day man, and as such it's hard to say explicitly that these people can't say this, or that. But, on a larger scale, these remarks have the potential to sway entire nations, and as such need to be regulated to some degree.

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Are you saying that the freedom of speech gives you the right to say whatever you want? It doesn't. There are caveats to the first amendment that deal with things like reputation. Racial slurs, and derogatory remarks have the capacity to weaken the reputation of entire subsects of society on a cultural level. Bigotry and dispiriting speech are not a constitutional right afforded to you by the bill of rights.
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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
"Never said the NYPD was a trusted organization".. Yet, you source them? I guess you don't know how sourcing works.

"I trust the NYPD over you".. Then why do you believe black people are being targeted by the police? Cuz the NYPD will say it doesn't happen. And It's regular citizens who speak out against police brutality. So do you only believe the police are corrupt when it suits your needs?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the police, DA and the whole judicial system gets raises, promotions, bribes and political clout by making arrests. The more arrests the bigger the budget they get. So of course they're going to always claim crime is on the rise. To get more money and take away more rights. You can't trust those who are paid to keep you in chains, homie.

And your proof of increased hate crimes against muslims is a link to gay guys fighting with some weirdo on a moped. A link with no "conviction" at that? Lol what ever bro. And btw, you're making the claim so the burden of proof is on you. Show me actual convictions of white people committing hate crimes against muslims. Maybe, the increase you speak of was those 4 black people who kidnapped and tortured that white handicapped Trump supporter? They were charged with hate crimes. Lolololol.

I came up with my idea of all the hoaxes being hoaxes after reading twenty articles about twenty hoaxes. If hoaxes weren't so prominent then why couldn't you post an actual hate crime against a Muslim? Nope, just gay guys.

I actually don't watch TV or rely on just websites or any of that. But when I do I listen to all stations, all experts, then follow the stories and leads myself. Ascertain to who's credible and who's not. If you're a far left weirdo or a neocon I definitely won't believe you easily. I read Breitbart, watch Stefan Molyneaux, James Corbett and many others but I also listen to and watch KNPR, CNN, MSNBC and a slew of liberal media. Not to mention, I've studied political science to a far greater degree than most.

"What's a black neighborhood"? LOLOLOL!! Are you serious? Semantics little bro!! You don't know what a black neighborhood is but have no problem identifying a white one. And see this is the problem with pc, you approach this with a smug attitude that you're morally superior to this white racist who's just too inferior to comprehend the reality of it all. When you just admitted black neighborhoods usually are more dangerous. I grew up in a mixed hood and believe me the area that was all black white boys didn't dare go alone lol.. Besides, fool, I've actually donated money time and have done tons of charity work! In these neighborhoods. From the poor to the sick. I've been there. And what, you have some moral high ground over me just cuz of the words you choose to use? Put your money where your mouth is and maybe I'll find you credible.

My hypothetical about black neighborhoods being dangerous has you all bent out of shape. Even though you admitted it yourself. Pc causes you to break with reality apparently.

And I'm not going to argue against classism as that's my dominion. You put all your chickens in the racism coupe.

The argument is about pc being good or not. Obviously, it's not good cuz this convo is not pc. You just make ad hominem attacks by making non pc akin to being racist or using racial slurs. Which it's not.

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Are you saying that the freedom of speech gives you the right to say whatever you want? It doesn't. There are caveats to the first amendment that deal with things like reputation. Racial slurs, and derogatory remarks have the capacity to weaken the reputation of entire subsects of society on a cultural level. Bigotry and dispiriting speech are not a constitutional right afforded to you by the bill of rights.
That's why we're talking about pc, as certain speech isn't protected so it's a moot point. We don't need any more laws against freedom of speech. It's only used to silent opposition. Quit the bullshit about racial slurs. That's not the same as not being pc.

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That blacks are targeted by police and that the NYPD could conceivably provide reliable statistics---are not mutually exclusive. I never said the police are a trusted organization, all of who`s reports one can believe blindly. I just stated that on this particular subject of whether there has been an increase in hate crimes, I find their report more credible than yours. Here is a link to a hate crime arrest that was made (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...135654693.html). Feel free to Google and find others. You said "most" of the hate crime reports are hoaxes. How did you arrive at that? Have you looked at every single hate crime report and realized a precise percentage that turned out to be hoaxes, or have you just been spending lots of time reading Breitbart and Alt-Right-wingers rant about "fake news" and liberal media conspiracies? Picking and choosing when to believe whether a source is credible---is exactly what I`m doing. It`s called using one`s own discernment, and it`s what we should all be doing and what I`m pretty sure you must have done along the way to arrive at your viewpoints. I agree with you about questioning things being reported...not just the hate crimes, but everything, from every source (even Breitbart). To believe that the vast majority of hate crimes are hoaxed or self-perpetuated in order to blame the "evil white man"--borders on tinfoil hat-wearing. The original statement you suggested was "black neighborhoods are violent," not "black neighborhoods are more dangerous," which is a different argument in my view. I still think it`s a parochial and narrow-minded thing to say (maybe it`s the PC kicking in me), because what exactly is a "black neighborhood," and what is it more dangerous than? The same neighborhoods you refer to as "dangerous black neighborhoods" can just as well be looked at as "dangerous poor neighborhoods"...and forgive me for being so PC, but the implicit correlation between poverty and violence if one said "poorer neighborhoods are more dangerous"--is more accurate than the implicit correlation between race and violence if one said "black neighborhoods are more dangerous." I`m almost certain that poorer predominantly white neighborhoods are often more violent than more affluent predominantly white neighborhoods. There is no need to include "white" in the terms when talking about these neighborhoods and falsely imply that their levels of violence has to do with whiteness.
"Never said the NYPD was a trusted organization".. Yet, you source them? I guess you don't know how sourcing works.

"I trust the NYPD over you".. Then why do you believe black people are being targeted by the police? Cuz the NYPD will say it doesn't happen. And It's regular citizens who speak out against police brutality. So do you only believe the police are corrupt when it suits your needs?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the police, DA and the whole judicial system gets raises, promotions, bribes and political clout by making arrests. The more arrests the bigger the budget they get. So of course they're going to always claim crime is on the rise. To get more money and take away more rights. You can't trust those who are paid to keep you in chains, homie.

And your proof of increased hate crimes against muslims is a link to gay guys fighting with some weirdo on a moped. A link with no "conviction" at that? Lol what ever bro. And btw, you're making the claim so the burden of proof is on you. Show me actual convictions of white people committing hate crimes against muslims. Maybe, the increase you speak of was those 4 black people who kidnapped and tortured that white handicapped Trump supporter? They were charged with hate crimes. Lolololol.

I came up with my idea of all the hoaxes being hoaxes after reading twenty articles about twenty hoaxes. If hoaxes weren't so prominent then why couldn't you post an actual hate crime against a Muslim? Nope, just gay guys.

I actually don't watch TV or rely on just websites or any of that. But when I do I listen to all stations, all experts, then follow the stories and leads myself. Ascertain to who's credible and who's not. If you're a far left weirdo or a neocon I definitely won't believe you easily. I read Breitbart, watch Stefan Molyneaux, James Corbett and many others but I also listen to and watch KNPR, CNN, MSNBC and a slew of liberal media. Not to mention, I've studied political science to a far greater degree than most.

"What's a black neighborhood"? LOLOLOL!! Are you serious? Semantics little bro!! You don't know what a black neighborhood is but have no problem identifying a white one. And see this is the problem with pc, you approach this with a smug attitude that you're morally superior to this white racist who's just too inferior to comprehend the reality of it all. When you just admitted black neighborhoods usually are more dangerous. I grew up in a mixed hood and believe me the area that was all black white boys didn't dare go alone lol.. Besides, fool, I've actually donated money time and have done tons of charity work! In these neighborhoods. From the poor to the sick. I've been there. And what, you have some moral high ground over me just cuz of the words you choose to use? Put your money where your mouth is and maybe I'll find you credible.

My hypothetical about black neighborhoods being dangerous has you all bent out of shape. Even though you admitted it yourself. Pc causes you to break with reality apparently.

And I'm not going to argue against classism as that's my dominion. You put all your chickens in the racism coupe.

The argument is about pc being good or not. Obviously, it's not good cuz this convo is not pc. You just make ad hominem attacks by making non pc akin to being racist or using racial slurs. Which it's not.

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Are you saying that the freedom of speech gives you the right to say whatever you want? It doesn't. There are caveats to the first amendment that deal with things like reputation. Racial slurs, and derogatory remarks have the capacity to weaken the reputation of entire subsects of society on a cultural level. Bigotry and dispiriting speech are not a constitutional right afforded to you by the bill of rights.
That's why we're talking about pc, as certain speech isn't protected so it's a moot point. We don't need any more laws against freedom of speech. It's only used to silent opposition. Quit the bullshit about racial slurs. That's not the same as not being pc.

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"Never said the NYPD was a trusted organization".. Yet, you source them? I guess you don't know how sourcing works.

"I trust the NYPD over you".. Then why do you believe black people are being targeted by the police? Cuz the NYPD will say it doesn't happen. And It's regular citizens who speak out against police brutality. So do you only believe the police are corrupt when it suits your needs?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the police, DA and the whole judicial system gets raises, promotions, bribes and political clout by making arrests. The more arrests the bigger the budget they get. So of course they're going to always claim crime is on the rise. To get more money and take away more rights. You can't trust those who are paid to keep you in chains, homie.

And your proof of increased hate crimes against muslims is a link to gay guys fighting with some weirdo on a moped. A link with no "conviction" at that? Lol what ever bro. And btw, you're making the claim so the burden of proof is on you. Show me actual convictions of white people committing hate crimes against muslims. Maybe, the increase you speak of was those 4 black people who kidnapped and tortured that white handicapped Trump supporter? They were charged with hate crimes. Lolololol.

I came up with my idea of all the hoaxes being hoaxes after reading twenty articles about twenty hoaxes. If hoaxes weren't so prominent then why couldn't you post an actual hate crime against a Muslim? Nope, just gay guys.

I actually don't watch TV or rely on just websites or any of that. But when I do I listen to all stations, all experts, then follow the stories and leads myself. Ascertain to who's credible and who's not. If you're a far left weirdo or a neocon I definitely won't believe you easily. I read Breitbart, watch Stefan Molyneaux, James Corbett and many others but I also listen to and watch KNPR, CNN, MSNBC and a slew of liberal media. Not to mention, I've studied political science to a far greater degree than most.

"What's a black neighborhood"? LOLOLOL!! Are you serious? Semantics little bro!! You don't know what a black neighborhood is but have no problem identifying a white one. And see this is the problem with pc, you approach this with a smug attitude that you're morally superior to this white racist who's just too inferior to comprehend the reality of it all. When you just admitted black neighborhoods usually are more dangerous. I grew up in a mixed hood and believe me the area that was all black white boys didn't dare go alone lol.. Besides, fool, I've actually donated money time and have done tons of charity work! In these neighborhoods. From the poor to the sick. I've been there. And what, you have some moral high ground over me just cuz of the words you choose to use? Put your money where your mouth is and maybe I'll find you credible.

My hypothetical about black neighborhoods being dangerous has you all bent out of shape. Even though you admitted it yourself. Pc causes you to break with reality apparently.

And I'm not going to argue against classism as that's my dominion. You put all your chickens in the racism coupe.

The argument is about pc being good or not. Obviously, it's not good cuz this convo is not pc. You just make ad hominem attacks by making non pc akin to being racist or using racial slurs. Which it's not.

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That's why we're talking about pc, as certain speech isn't protected so it's a moot point. We don't need any more laws against freedom of speech. It's only used to silent opposition. Quit the bullshit about racial slurs. That's not the same as not being pc.
You're right, ethnicity has nothing to do with political correctness. Even though it's in the definition, and everything.
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"Never said the NYPD was a trusted organization".. Yet, you source them? I guess you don't know how sourcing works.

"I trust the NYPD over you".. Then why do you believe black people are being targeted by the police? Cuz the NYPD will say it doesn't happen. And It's regular citizens who speak out against police brutality. So do you only believe the police are corrupt when it suits your needs?

I'll let you in on a little secret, the police, DA and the whole judicial system gets raises, promotions, bribes and political clout by making arrests. The more arrests the bigger the budget they get. So of course they're going to always claim crime is on the rise. To get more money and take away more rights. You can't trust those who are paid to keep you in chains, homie.

And your proof of increased hate crimes against muslims is a link to gay guys fighting with some weirdo on a moped. A link with no "conviction" at that? Lol what ever bro. And btw, you're making the claim so the burden of proof is on you. Show me actual convictions of white people committing hate crimes against muslims. Maybe, the increase you speak of was those 4 black people who kidnapped and tortured that white handicapped Trump supporter? They were charged with hate crimes. Lolololol.

I came up with my idea of all the hoaxes being hoaxes after reading twenty articles about twenty hoaxes. If hoaxes weren't so prominent then why couldn't you post an actual hate crime against a Muslim? Nope, just gay guys.

I actually don't watch TV or rely on just websites or any of that. But when I do I listen to all stations, all experts, then follow the stories and leads myself. Ascertain to who's credible and who's not. If you're a far left weirdo or a neocon I definitely won't believe you easily. I read Breitbart, watch Stefan Molyneaux, James Corbett and many others but I also listen to and watch KNPR, CNN, MSNBC and a slew of liberal media. Not to mention, I've studied political science to a far greater degree than most.

"What's a black neighborhood"? LOLOLOL!! Are you serious? Semantics little bro!! You don't know what a black neighborhood is but have no problem identifying a white one. And see this is the problem with pc, you approach this with a smug attitude that you're morally superior to this white racist who's just too inferior to comprehend the reality of it all. When you just admitted black neighborhoods usually are more dangerous. I grew up in a mixed hood and believe me the area that was all black white boys didn't dare go alone lol.. Besides, fool, I've actually donated money time and have done tons of charity work! In these neighborhoods. From the poor to the sick. I've been there. And what, you have some moral high ground over me just cuz of the words you choose to use? Put your money where your mouth is and maybe I'll find you credible.

My hypothetical about black neighborhoods being dangerous has you all bent out of shape. Even though you admitted it yourself. Pc causes you to break with reality apparently.

And I'm not going to argue against classism as that's my dominion. You put all your chickens in the racism coupe.

The argument is about pc being good or not. Obviously, it's not good cuz this convo is not pc. You just make ad hominem attacks by making non pc akin to being racist or using racial slurs. Which it's not.

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That's why we're talking about pc, as certain speech isn't protected so it's a moot point. We don't need any more laws against freedom of speech. It's only used to silent opposition. Quit the bullshit about racial slurs. That's not the same as not being pc.
You're right, ethnicity has nothing to do with political correctness. Even though it's in the definition, and everything.
 
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