Here's an Idea

Originally Posted by Just C

No it's not.

There isn't a newer better version of LB people are using while were here complaining the old site needs fixing, referring to your COD analogy.

This isn't people playing and complaining about issues with Fifa 13 while the rest moved onto Fifa 14 months agao.

This is all we got.

And any updating or any other added extra needs everything working.

We need to first focus on what we have and make it fully functional. Stick to the basic essentials and when all those are in place THEN aim higher.

Okay then, better example....

It's like asking for a patch to Kane and Lynch 2. Is there a better alternative? No. Is there still people playing it? Probably not.

Originally Posted by Just C

No it's not.

There isn't a newer better version of LB people are using while were here complaining the old site needs fixing, referring to your COD analogy.

This isn't people playing and complaining about issues with Fifa 13 while the rest moved onto Fifa 14 months agao.

This is all we got.

And any updating or any other added extra needs everything working.

We need to first focus on what we have and make it fully functional. Stick to the basic essentials and when all those are in place THEN aim higher.

Okay then, better example....

It's like asking for a patch to Kane and Lynch 2. Is there a better alternative? No. Is there still people playing it? Probably not.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Just C

I don't get what you're saying because this isn't the case which I've already stated.

No 1 in here said there is a money issue with getting the sites problems fixed. I specifically said money wasn't an issue.

I had assumed Godbody said that it seems to be a money issue out of something more than just randomly saying it to promote his idea.


Either way, good suggestion imo. If money isn't a problem why has it been years since a major site feature has been added? What the fuck is dudes problem, he can't get shit done at all.. I understand there is a lot to be factored in, but get him a helper or some shit. Do ANYTHING to stop this shit from dying because it gets worse and worse every fucking week, it's literally like watching what used to be a prize winning horse just dragging it's legs to the finish line.

It literally makes me mad that Pugz doesn't have the initiative to say something to pseudo, or do anything to actually start getting shit done. I don't care if they're BFF's or even family tell him to do shit or get fired, and if he can't do shit then replace him. It's not hard to get a coder for this, in fact, I personally know about 15 website developers who (if they see promise in it) would do shit for FREE. Hit me up Pugz, please.

I'm sorry for speaking so out of place here but for fucks sake man, this is starting to become so fucking repetitive and pathetic that I honestly have no clue why people like @Dave or @Godbody haven't just left this place.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Just C

I don't get what you're saying because this isn't the case which I've already stated.

No 1 in here said there is a money issue with getting the sites problems fixed. I specifically said money wasn't an issue.

I had assumed Godbody said that it seems to be a money issue out of something more than just randomly saying it to promote his idea.


Either way, good suggestion imo. If money isn't a problem why has it been years since a major site feature has been added? What the fuck is dudes problem, he can't get shit done at all.. I understand there is a lot to be factored in, but get him a helper or some shit. Do ANYTHING to stop this shit from dying because it gets worse and worse every fucking week, it's literally like watching what used to be a prize winning horse just dragging it's legs to the finish line.

It literally makes me mad that Pugz doesn't have the initiative to say something to pseudo, or do anything to actually start getting shit done. I don't care if they're BFF's or even family tell him to do shit or get fired, and if he can't do shit then replace him. It's not hard to get a coder for this, in fact, I personally know about 15 website developers who (if they see promise in it) would do shit for FREE. Hit me up Pugz, please.

I'm sorry for speaking so out of place here but for fucks sake man, this is starting to become so fucking repetitive and pathetic that I honestly have no clue why people like @Dave or @Godbody haven't just left this place.

[Godbody]

@Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"

but then you say money isnt an issue

if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"

a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime

boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before

[Godbody]

@Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"

but then you say money isnt an issue

if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"

a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime

boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before

Originally Posted by Crysis

I'm sorry for speaking so out of place here but for fucks sake man, this is starting to become so fucking repetitive and pathetic that I honestly have no clue why people like @Dave or @Godbody haven't just left this place.

I don't have a lot going on in life, I need this.

Originally Posted by Crysis

I'm sorry for speaking so out of place here but for fucks sake man, this is starting to become so fucking repetitive and pathetic that I honestly have no clue why people like @Dave or @Godbody haven't just left this place.

I don't have a lot going on in life, I need this.

[J u s T C]

It's still not a good example. better, but not good Dave lol

Throw in releasing DLC for K&L 2 with no patch and you realise how silly that proposal is. At this stage of the game.

We don't even have enough active members for this to be a game changer hahahahaha

You do this sort of shit when other things are in place.

Like everything working as it should.
A new skin update along with a bunch of other.
More members.

This is pie in the sky right now lol

[J u s T C]

It's still not a good example. better, but not good Dave lol

Throw in releasing DLC for K&L 2 with no patch and you realise how silly that proposal is. At this stage of the game.

We don't even have enough active members for this to be a game changer hahahahaha

You do this sort of shit when other things are in place.

Like everything working as it should.
A new skin update along with a bunch of other.
More members.

This is pie in the sky right now lol

@Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.

I doubt you're going to find anyone on the site, RULE excluded, who has done more than me. Tournament running, idea implimentation, PPVs format etc (I mean not including mod actions).

I've done pretty much everything, and it still makes fuck all of a difference. The members have done our bit. We've got the LBT, we've had the topical tournaments, we've ran track, text, audio and whatever the fuck else format tournaments. Nothing has changed.

Really, what the fuck are we expected to do at this point? We don't have the power or position to make a change on the site, or to bring more members here. We either make our little ideas, or accept that the guys in charge have been killing the site since 2007.

@Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.

I doubt you're going to find anyone on the site, RULE excluded, who has done more than me. Tournament running, idea implimentation, PPVs format etc (I mean not including mod actions).

I've done pretty much everything, and it still makes fuck all of a difference. The members have done our bit. We've got the LBT, we've had the topical tournaments, we've ran track, text, audio and whatever the fuck else format tournaments. Nothing has changed.

Really, what the fuck are we expected to do at this point? We don't have the power or position to make a change on the site, or to bring more members here. We either make our little ideas, or accept that the guys in charge have been killing the site since 2007.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Godbody

@Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"

but then you say money isnt an issue

if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"

a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime

boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before

Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.

I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.

Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.

They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.

Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.

What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?

Another big bang and a waive of a wand?

No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Godbody

@Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"

but then you say money isnt an issue

if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"

a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime

boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before

Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.

I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.

Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.

They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.

Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.

What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?

Another big bang and a waive of a wand?

No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Dave

@Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.

Nothing. Keep making suggestions. I haven't downed them or outright dismissed them. They're cool ideas. Their just not for right now. lol

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Dave

@Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.

Nothing. Keep making suggestions. I haven't downed them or outright dismissed them. They're cool ideas. Their just not for right now. lol

[J u s T C]

Lol people just wanna add this that and the other when half of what we currently have doesn't even work in the first place.

Good idea. but just not right now is all I'm saying.

[J u s T C]

Lol people just wanna add this that and the other when half of what we currently have doesn't even work in the first place.

Good idea. but just not right now is all I'm saying.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Just C

Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.

I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.

Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.

They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.

Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.

What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?

Another big bang and a waive of a wand?

No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.

Let me combine Dave's view on the game analogy with your view on it

Adding a feature would be like adding DLC to a game that needs patching, right?

But people have to buy the game for there to be DLC. If people didn't buy the game, or its DLC, the game publisher (EA if we're using your FIFA analogy) wouldn't see a need to make more FIFA games because they have a sunk cost; in other words they spent money on creating a product and didn't get the return they expected

Money isn't the issue, EA has tons of money to add features in their yearly installments and to patch their games

But without the financial support or feedback from the community EA would discontinue FIFA

So think of V4 as the next FIFA game. People want the next FIFA game and we're letting @Pugz(EA in this case) know that we want it by giving feedback on what he can do to improve the FIFA franchise and by giving financial support. Even though we now know money isn't an issue for Pugz and it wouldn't be an issue for EA either.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Just C

Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.

I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.

Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.

They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.

Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.

What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?

Another big bang and a waive of a wand?

No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.

Let me combine Dave's view on the game analogy with your view on it

Adding a feature would be like adding DLC to a game that needs patching, right?

But people have to buy the game for there to be DLC. If people didn't buy the game, or its DLC, the game publisher (EA if we're using your FIFA analogy) wouldn't see a need to make more FIFA games because they have a sunk cost; in other words they spent money on creating a product and didn't get the return they expected

Money isn't the issue, EA has tons of money to add features in their yearly installments and to patch their games

But without the financial support or feedback from the community EA would discontinue FIFA

So think of V4 as the next FIFA game. People want the next FIFA game and we're letting @Pugz(EA in this case) know that we want it by giving feedback on what he can do to improve the FIFA franchise and by giving financial support. Even though we now know money isn't an issue for Pugz and it wouldn't be an issue for EA either.