Jaz-O Exposes Jay-Z & Free-masonry

[MAPTHAILLEMCEE]

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[MAPTHAILLEMCEE]

Check this dude! out his flow is remarkable style differs from many
A great emcee raps so creatively check him out!
http://www.myspace.com/lyricaldroppa
Follow Him On twitter twitter.com/theycallmemap

[TheAddingMachin]

I don't get the huge deal about him being a freemason? It's pretty much just an exclusive club that has big lodge meetings (the lodges aren't hidden either, they're big stone buildings with the freemason logo on the front of them) and they all believe in a higher power. However, they are non-dogmatic, so it doesn't matter what the members believe, as long as it involves a higher power. Tons of presidents were freemasons, as was Bach and Goethe and tons of other artists throughout the years.

other notable freemasons:

Buzz Aldrin
Louis Armstrong
Benedict Arnold
John Jacob Astor
Gene Autry
Irving Berlin
Robert Borden
Winston Churchill
Ty Cobb
Buffalo Bill
Nat King Cole
Samuel Colt
Davy Crockett
John George Diefenbaker
Jean Henri Dunant
Duke Ellington
Henry Ford
Benjamin Franklin
Tim Horton
Harry Houdini
Jesse Jackson
Alexander Kieth
Franz Liszt
Charles Lindbergh
Sir John A Macdonald
General Douglas Macarthur
Harpo Marx
John Molson
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Leopold Mozart
James Naismith
Brad Paisley
Arnold Palmer
Richard Pryor
Michael Richards
Peter Sellers
John Philip Sousa
Mark Twain
John Wayne
Oscar Wilde

So really, I wouldn't be surprised if Shawn Corey Carter was a freemason, as it's not a huge deal.

[TheAddingMachin]

I don't get the huge deal about him being a freemason? It's pretty much just an exclusive club that has big lodge meetings (the lodges aren't hidden either, they're big stone buildings with the freemason logo on the front of them) and they all believe in a higher power. However, they are non-dogmatic, so it doesn't matter what the members believe, as long as it involves a higher power. Tons of presidents were freemasons, as was Bach and Goethe and tons of other artists throughout the years.

other notable freemasons:

Buzz Aldrin
Louis Armstrong
Benedict Arnold
John Jacob Astor
Gene Autry
Irving Berlin
Robert Borden
Winston Churchill
Ty Cobb
Buffalo Bill
Nat King Cole
Samuel Colt
Davy Crockett
John George Diefenbaker
Jean Henri Dunant
Duke Ellington
Henry Ford
Benjamin Franklin
Tim Horton
Harry Houdini
Jesse Jackson
Alexander Kieth
Franz Liszt
Charles Lindbergh
Sir John A Macdonald
General Douglas Macarthur
Harpo Marx
John Molson
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Leopold Mozart
James Naismith
Brad Paisley
Arnold Palmer
Richard Pryor
Michael Richards
Peter Sellers
John Philip Sousa
Mark Twain
John Wayne
Oscar Wilde

So really, I wouldn't be surprised if Shawn Corey Carter was a freemason, as it's not a huge deal.

[KlLLA-B]

listen to this shit

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBq3O7czMZg[/media]

[KlLLA-B]

listen to this shit

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBq3O7czMZg[/media]

[Warren Peece]

The whole music industry has satanic motifs in it. I am not saying they are all satanists..but if you know what satanic premaces are , you'd see them being shared by these artists. Talented=yes Entertaining=yes- Does it contain pagan concepts= yes. Just because they are good does not negate the fact...Don't tell me they aren't when they sport shirts that have aleister crowley quotes on them (satanist/33rd degree freemason, invented tarot cards) - Again, people can call me crazy.

Those are the same people that put so much trust into their authority. Plato says ""In order to take the spiritual temperature of an individual or society, one must mark the music."

"Any musical innovation is full of danger to the whole state, and ought to be prohibited . . . when modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the state always change with them."
(Aristotle, The Politics, translated by T. A. Sinclair, revised by T. J. Saunders, London: Penguin, 1981, book 8, section 5, page 466)

Like I said..music is good, but concepts push through fasades that have major influence on the masses .. and it's obviously done for an ultimate goal. Don't tell me otherwise because I was even taught this in Sociology and Psychology.

[Warren Peece]

The whole music industry has satanic motifs in it. I am not saying they are all satanists..but if you know what satanic premaces are , you'd see them being shared by these artists. Talented=yes Entertaining=yes- Does it contain pagan concepts= yes. Just because they are good does not negate the fact...Don't tell me they aren't when they sport shirts that have aleister crowley quotes on them (satanist/33rd degree freemason, invented tarot cards) - Again, people can call me crazy.

Those are the same people that put so much trust into their authority. Plato says ""In order to take the spiritual temperature of an individual or society, one must mark the music."

"Any musical innovation is full of danger to the whole state, and ought to be prohibited . . . when modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the state always change with them."
(Aristotle, The Politics, translated by T. A. Sinclair, revised by T. J. Saunders, London: Penguin, 1981, book 8, section 5, page 466)

Like I said..music is good, but concepts push through fasades that have major influence on the masses .. and it's obviously done for an ultimate goal. Don't tell me otherwise because I was even taught this in Sociology and Psychology.

[remarK]

this theory makes absolutely no sense to me..

like okay, if they are in this secret society what is the society's goals?..

to control our minds through hidden messages?.. uhh, no..

[remarK]

this theory makes absolutely no sense to me..

like okay, if they are in this secret society what is the society's goals?..

to control our minds through hidden messages?.. uhh, no..

[Warren Peece]

Originally Posted by remarK

this theory makes absolutely no sense to me..

like okay, if they are in this secret society what is the society's goals?..

to control our minds through hidden messages?.. uhh, no..

..Yes..not just that though (music)

Mind Control. Exposed in 90s, at which Bill clinton apoligized..Mk ultra, ran by Central Intelligence Agency. drugs, hypnotism, repetition, etc. Television is a great tool. Anyone telling me that music and tv. doesn't have a STRONG influence on the way we view the world are in complete denial.

[Warren Peece]

Originally Posted by remarK

this theory makes absolutely no sense to me..

like okay, if they are in this secret society what is the society's goals?..

to control our minds through hidden messages?.. uhh, no..

..Yes..not just that though (music)

Mind Control. Exposed in 90s, at which Bill clinton apoligized..Mk ultra, ran by Central Intelligence Agency. drugs, hypnotism, repetition, etc. Television is a great tool. Anyone telling me that music and tv. doesn't have a STRONG influence on the way we view the world are in complete denial.

[remarK]

Originally Posted by Warren_Peece

..Yes..not just that though (music)

Mind Control. Exposed in 90s, at which Bill clinton apoligized..Mk ultra, ran by Central Intelligence Agency. drugs, hypnotism, repetition, etc. Television is a great tool. Anyone telling me that music and tv. doesn't have a STRONG influence on the way we view the world are in complete denial.

see, yeah that's true... BUT i guarantee there isn't one person that listens to Jay-Z, Kanye, and Nas and is like..

yeah!, the all seeing eye of God.. i'm gonna be super religious from now on because Jay-Z and Nas are interpreting it through their music!..

It's funny though, cuz i just saw "The Men Who Stare At Goats" and they heavily used the symbol of the Eye of Providence.. so it is definitely being used for this.. I just don't see how this specific object will control my mind Lmaoo.. If the objective is to make people believe in a certain religion that aint gonna work on me..

I think religion is probably one of the most problematic ideologies in our society..

Let's have a stimulating conversation now, War..

[remarK]

Originally Posted by Warren_Peece

..Yes..not just that though (music)

Mind Control. Exposed in 90s, at which Bill clinton apoligized..Mk ultra, ran by Central Intelligence Agency. drugs, hypnotism, repetition, etc. Television is a great tool. Anyone telling me that music and tv. doesn't have a STRONG influence on the way we view the world are in complete denial.

see, yeah that's true... BUT i guarantee there isn't one person that listens to Jay-Z, Kanye, and Nas and is like..

yeah!, the all seeing eye of God.. i'm gonna be super religious from now on because Jay-Z and Nas are interpreting it through their music!..

It's funny though, cuz i just saw "The Men Who Stare At Goats" and they heavily used the symbol of the Eye of Providence.. so it is definitely being used for this.. I just don't see how this specific object will control my mind Lmaoo.. If the objective is to make people believe in a certain religion that aint gonna work on me..

I think religion is probably one of the most problematic ideologies in our society..

Let's have a stimulating conversation now, War..

[Warren Peece]

Originally Posted by remarK

see, yeah that's true... BUT i guarantee there isn't one person that listens to Jay-Z, Kanye, and Nas and is like..

yeah!, the all seeing eye of God.. i'm gonna be super religious from now on because Jay-Z and Nas are interpreting it through their music!..

It's funny though, cuz i just saw "The Men Who Stare At Goats" and they heavily used the symbol of the Eye of Providence.. so it is definitely being used for this.. I just don't see how this specific object will control my mind Lmaoo.. If the objective is to make people believe in a certain religion that aint gonna work on me..

I think religion is probably one of the most problematic ideologies in our society..

Let's have a stimulating conversation now, War..

Unlucky for me, I'm completely sober. haha. alright then.

The actual goal of mainstream and politics is to slowly push away religion from people. Although I have no belief an any particular one, I would agree with some concepts the bible would have (lets not get into) and it's funny though. The media is pushing in the complete opposite dirrection. They're discrediting it all in every way they can. Feel free , people to debate this , because this really speaks for itself..

As far as artists doing this or that..
1st of all..about EVERY SINGLE artist we see on television has indicated that they believe in a SUPREME BEING. So we all know atleast that..now, if you dig into the content to at which these artists speak about in songs..you have to ask yourself ..WHAT religion PERMITS those concepts they glamourize?

What religion permits orgies, materialism, self-indulgence, murder, doing as YOU WANT, cannibliasm, SEX-SEX-SEX, Selling "souls" , homo-sexuality, greed, etc. ??? Okay yes it's art. But That's all these artists usually put out. We're talking Madona, Britney, Eminem, Jay-Z, Chris Brown, Rihanna, Kanye, ..and the list goes on. The only RELIGION that ALL OF THOSE THINGS are elements of for spiritual growth, ..is PAGANISM(satanism,zionism)

If anyone here is too lazy to look into paganism, that's okay. That's on them. I don't want to see the same people being stubborn though .

Ok..masonry. Same thing, different name. Aleister Crowley (jay-z sports the same guys QUOTES do art thy wilt) is a 33rd degree freemason, inventor of tarot cards, was a satanist, and practiced black magic.

Beatles...STRONG FUCKING influence on people..has aleister crowley on their SEARGENT PEPPER album cover..in fact- aleister crowley is infact supposed to be seargent pepper himself. All I'm pointing out is examples. beatles ..

so many people loved their music..why are the beatles sporting this shit? So back to what REMARK was originally saying..he doesn't think they're trying to pull us into a religion..I disagree to an extent.

I do think they're trying to get everybody to submit to THEIR beliefs so it will be THAT MUCH EASIER for us to accept w.e. they throw at us..whether that be new bills, new laws, or..a new world order.

Read READ READ. Internet can take you some places, but going out yourself, examining places is intriguing.


And it's funny you mention the men who stare at goats. (based on true events, .. funny they pick a goat out of all animals. ..in the movie they're psychic spies haha. The government really did have a group called "remote viewing" < experiments on psychic use . LSD, blah blah blibbity blah why dont they teach us this in school?

Sorry i had to type this all in a hurrryyy its a lot of subject just for one motherfucker to speak on . it's a large subject though. something i can't explain all together.

besides that, they did have a group called

[Warren Peece]

Originally Posted by remarK

see, yeah that's true... BUT i guarantee there isn't one person that listens to Jay-Z, Kanye, and Nas and is like..

yeah!, the all seeing eye of God.. i'm gonna be super religious from now on because Jay-Z and Nas are interpreting it through their music!..

It's funny though, cuz i just saw "The Men Who Stare At Goats" and they heavily used the symbol of the Eye of Providence.. so it is definitely being used for this.. I just don't see how this specific object will control my mind Lmaoo.. If the objective is to make people believe in a certain religion that aint gonna work on me..

I think religion is probably one of the most problematic ideologies in our society..

Let's have a stimulating conversation now, War..

Unlucky for me, I'm completely sober. haha. alright then.

The actual goal of mainstream and politics is to slowly push away religion from people. Although I have no belief an any particular one, I would agree with some concepts the bible would have (lets not get into) and it's funny though. The media is pushing in the complete opposite dirrection. They're discrediting it all in every way they can. Feel free , people to debate this , because this really speaks for itself..

As far as artists doing this or that..
1st of all..about EVERY SINGLE artist we see on television has indicated that they believe in a SUPREME BEING. So we all know atleast that..now, if you dig into the content to at which these artists speak about in songs..you have to ask yourself ..WHAT religion PERMITS those concepts they glamourize?

What religion permits orgies, materialism, self-indulgence, murder, doing as YOU WANT, cannibliasm, SEX-SEX-SEX, Selling "souls" , homo-sexuality, greed, etc. ??? Okay yes it's art. But That's all these artists usually put out. We're talking Madona, Britney, Eminem, Jay-Z, Chris Brown, Rihanna, Kanye, ..and the list goes on. The only RELIGION that ALL OF THOSE THINGS are elements of for spiritual growth, ..is PAGANISM(satanism,zionism)

If anyone here is too lazy to look into paganism, that's okay. That's on them. I don't want to see the same people being stubborn though .

Ok..masonry. Same thing, different name. Aleister Crowley (jay-z sports the same guys QUOTES do art thy wilt) is a 33rd degree freemason, inventor of tarot cards, was a satanist, and practiced black magic.

Beatles...STRONG FUCKING influence on people..has aleister crowley on their SEARGENT PEPPER album cover..in fact- aleister crowley is infact supposed to be seargent pepper himself. All I'm pointing out is examples. beatles ..

so many people loved their music..why are the beatles sporting this shit? So back to what REMARK was originally saying..he doesn't think they're trying to pull us into a religion..I disagree to an extent.

I do think they're trying to get everybody to submit to THEIR beliefs so it will be THAT MUCH EASIER for us to accept w.e. they throw at us..whether that be new bills, new laws, or..a new world order.

Read READ READ. Internet can take you some places, but going out yourself, examining places is intriguing.


And it's funny you mention the men who stare at goats. (based on true events, .. funny they pick a goat out of all animals. ..in the movie they're psychic spies haha. The government really did have a group called "remote viewing" < experiments on psychic use . LSD, blah blah blibbity blah why dont they teach us this in school?

Sorry i had to type this all in a hurrryyy its a lot of subject just for one motherfucker to speak on . it's a large subject though. something i can't explain all together.

besides that, they did have a group called

[remarK]

Originally Posted by Warren_Peece

Unlucky for me, I'm completely sober. haha. alright then.

The actual goal of mainstream and politics is to slowly push away religion from people. Although I have no belief an any particular one, I would agree with some concepts the bible would have (lets not get into) and it's funny though. The media is pushing in the complete opposite dirrection. They're discrediting it all in every way they can. Feel free , people to debate this , because this really speaks for itself..

As far as artists doing this or that..
1st of all..about EVERY SINGLE artist we see on television has indicated that they believe in a SUPREME BEING. So we all know atleast that..now, if you dig into the content to at which these artists speak about in songs..you have to ask yourself ..WHAT religion PERMITS those concepts they glamourize?

What religion permits orgies, materialism, self-indulgence, murder, doing as YOU WANT, cannibliasm, SEX-SEX-SEX, Selling "souls" , homo-sexuality, greed, etc. ??? Okay yes it's art. But That's all these artists usually put out. We're talking Madona, Britney, Eminem, Jay-Z, Chris Brown, Rihanna, Kanye, ..and the list goes on. The only RELIGION that ALL OF THOSE THINGS are elements of for spiritual growth, ..is PAGANISM(satanism,zionism)

If anyone here is too lazy to look into paganism, that's okay. That's on them. I don't want to see the same people being stubborn though .

Ok..masonry. Same thing, different name. Aleister Crowley (jay-z sports the same guys QUOTES do art thy wilt) is a 33rd degree freemason, inventor of tarot cards, was a satanist, and practiced black magic.

Beatles...STRONG FUCKING influence on people..has aleister crowley on their SEARGENT PEPPER album cover..in fact- aleister crowley is infact supposed to be seargent pepper himself. All I'm pointing out is examples. beatles ..

so many people loved their music..why are the beatles sporting this shit? So back to what REMARK was originally saying..he doesn't think they're trying to pull us into a religion..I disagree to an extent.

I do think they're trying to get everybody to submit to THEIR beliefs so it will be THAT MUCH EASIER for us to accept w.e. they throw at us..whether that be new bills, new laws, or..a new world order.

Read READ READ. Internet can take you some places, but going out yourself, examining places is intriguing.


And it's funny you mention the men who stare at goats. (based on true events, .. funny they pick a goat out of all animals. ..in the movie they're psychic spies haha. The government really did have a group called "remote viewing" < experiments on psychic use . LSD, blah blah blibbity blah why dont they teach us this in school?

Sorry i had to type this all in a hurrryyy its a lot of subject just for one motherfucker to speak on . it's a large subject though. something i can't explain all together.

besides that, they did have a group called

very very interesting stuff, but I didn't say that they weren't trying to pull us into a religion.. what I said was referring directly to the videos people were posting in this thread about the pyramid and how it was interpreted through their music..

I was just saying that that idea itself, didn't seem like it would work..

I could definitely see how The Beatles were used in the media and through their albums.. shit their still influencing minds now, of kids that aren't even remotely of their generation..

This might be completely off topic, but I thought it was an interesting point that was brought up in my class today.. see if you can follow it cuz it's gonna seem like it doesn't have a point at first, but it will get to my main point.. which is media..

okay so we were watching a documentary video on a certain culture in Africa ( where isn't important to the point i'm making).. and as a custom, the women in their tribes would have to get circumcised (get the tip of the clit removed) and then have their vagina's stitched shut until marriage ( )... the women were fighting against this custom..

So where I'm going with this is..... My teacher asked "But what is the difference between these surgeries and cosmetic surgeries in the U.S.?"..

Some kid answered right away, "Well we have the choice whether we want to get a surgery done and it's more of a luxury rather than something being forced upon us"

My teacher then stated.. but is it really our choice?.. cuz when you think of it, why are these people in our culture getting dozens of surgeries done?, because they are unhappy with the way they look?.. yeah, and that's mostly due to the media and television in our society...

I just thought that was really interesting, although it is somewhat ridiculous to compare cosmetic surgery to a woman getting her vagina sewed shut, that shit is just horrrrrible..

[remarK]

Originally Posted by Warren_Peece

Unlucky for me, I'm completely sober. haha. alright then.

The actual goal of mainstream and politics is to slowly push away religion from people. Although I have no belief an any particular one, I would agree with some concepts the bible would have (lets not get into) and it's funny though. The media is pushing in the complete opposite dirrection. They're discrediting it all in every way they can. Feel free , people to debate this , because this really speaks for itself..

As far as artists doing this or that..
1st of all..about EVERY SINGLE artist we see on television has indicated that they believe in a SUPREME BEING. So we all know atleast that..now, if you dig into the content to at which these artists speak about in songs..you have to ask yourself ..WHAT religion PERMITS those concepts they glamourize?

What religion permits orgies, materialism, self-indulgence, murder, doing as YOU WANT, cannibliasm, SEX-SEX-SEX, Selling "souls" , homo-sexuality, greed, etc. ??? Okay yes it's art. But That's all these artists usually put out. We're talking Madona, Britney, Eminem, Jay-Z, Chris Brown, Rihanna, Kanye, ..and the list goes on. The only RELIGION that ALL OF THOSE THINGS are elements of for spiritual growth, ..is PAGANISM(satanism,zionism)

If anyone here is too lazy to look into paganism, that's okay. That's on them. I don't want to see the same people being stubborn though .

Ok..masonry. Same thing, different name. Aleister Crowley (jay-z sports the same guys QUOTES do art thy wilt) is a 33rd degree freemason, inventor of tarot cards, was a satanist, and practiced black magic.

Beatles...STRONG FUCKING influence on people..has aleister crowley on their SEARGENT PEPPER album cover..in fact- aleister crowley is infact supposed to be seargent pepper himself. All I'm pointing out is examples. beatles ..

so many people loved their music..why are the beatles sporting this shit? So back to what REMARK was originally saying..he doesn't think they're trying to pull us into a religion..I disagree to an extent.

I do think they're trying to get everybody to submit to THEIR beliefs so it will be THAT MUCH EASIER for us to accept w.e. they throw at us..whether that be new bills, new laws, or..a new world order.

Read READ READ. Internet can take you some places, but going out yourself, examining places is intriguing.


And it's funny you mention the men who stare at goats. (based on true events, .. funny they pick a goat out of all animals. ..in the movie they're psychic spies haha. The government really did have a group called "remote viewing" < experiments on psychic use . LSD, blah blah blibbity blah why dont they teach us this in school?

Sorry i had to type this all in a hurrryyy its a lot of subject just for one motherfucker to speak on . it's a large subject though. something i can't explain all together.

besides that, they did have a group called

very very interesting stuff, but I didn't say that they weren't trying to pull us into a religion.. what I said was referring directly to the videos people were posting in this thread about the pyramid and how it was interpreted through their music..

I was just saying that that idea itself, didn't seem like it would work..

I could definitely see how The Beatles were used in the media and through their albums.. shit their still influencing minds now, of kids that aren't even remotely of their generation..

This might be completely off topic, but I thought it was an interesting point that was brought up in my class today.. see if you can follow it cuz it's gonna seem like it doesn't have a point at first, but it will get to my main point.. which is media..

okay so we were watching a documentary video on a certain culture in Africa ( where isn't important to the point i'm making).. and as a custom, the women in their tribes would have to get circumcised (get the tip of the clit removed) and then have their vagina's stitched shut until marriage ( )... the women were fighting against this custom..

So where I'm going with this is..... My teacher asked "But what is the difference between these surgeries and cosmetic surgeries in the U.S.?"..

Some kid answered right away, "Well we have the choice whether we want to get a surgery done and it's more of a luxury rather than something being forced upon us"

My teacher then stated.. but is it really our choice?.. cuz when you think of it, why are these people in our culture getting dozens of surgeries done?, because they are unhappy with the way they look?.. yeah, and that's mostly due to the media and television in our society...

I just thought that was really interesting, although it is somewhat ridiculous to compare cosmetic surgery to a woman getting her vagina sewed shut, that shit is just horrrrrible..

[Warren Peece]

The 1st mistake you made was calling it 'secret' because .. it certainly isn't. Part of what is done in masonic societies are secret. That's why you go under oath when initated.

I wouldn't answer your questions until you educated yourself on psychology and sociology. Then expanded your mind on philosophy. Not everybody has the brain capacity to actually comprehend things that are COMPLETELY logical. There have even been studies on that.

I mean if I said "tomatos a fruit" people may think I'm crazy. . but if they were to actually look into it, they'd learn that only the fruits (as opposed to vegatables) contain seeds. Therefore also a cucumber would be a fruit. haha regardless of what they have been taught

very simple analogy, but that's all.

[Warren Peece]

The 1st mistake you made was calling it 'secret' because .. it certainly isn't. Part of what is done in masonic societies are secret. That's why you go under oath when initated.

I wouldn't answer your questions until you educated yourself on psychology and sociology. Then expanded your mind on philosophy. Not everybody has the brain capacity to actually comprehend things that are COMPLETELY logical. There have even been studies on that.

I mean if I said "tomatos a fruit" people may think I'm crazy. . but if they were to actually look into it, they'd learn that only the fruits (as opposed to vegatables) contain seeds. Therefore also a cucumber would be a fruit. haha regardless of what they have been taught

very simple analogy, but that's all.