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Unread 10-01-2013, 05:53 PM
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Lol...that's fair. In my experience, there are different kinds of atheists. It is only so-called "strong/positive atheists" that I sometimes have a problem with. I think of "atheist" as a somewhat relative term and that we are all atheistic towards someone's beliefs. If a Hindu has his own concept of god and disbelieves a Christian's concept of god, as far as that Christian is concerned, that Hindu might as well be atheist because his god (Jehovah) is the only true god, therefore, a belief in another god is really a lack of belief in God. Historically, the Greek term atheos (without gods) from which "atheist" is derived, was applied to not only true atheists but also people who did have belief in deities, just not the Greek ones.
I also think that "god" is an idea first and foremost, and there is no denying that the idea exists. With the multitudinous definitions of the term "god', the term "atheist" becomes even more ambiguous, especially when it pre-supposes that all uses and definitions of "god" fits into a certain criteria. If in my conceptualization of god, I concluded that god is water, would you deny that water exists? If not, then you wouldn't be atheistic towards my belief. If you argued that water exists but it isn't god, then you obviously have a belief that god (as an idea) exists as well. You'd have to have a clear concept of god to be able to say what god is or isn't or to even believe or disbelieve in god. WE ALL BELIEVE THAT GOD EXISTS. The only difference is what we believe god exists as. To some people, god exists as an actual physical omnipotent entity in the universe. To others, god exists as a fictional character, word in the dictionary, a figment of some people's imagination....still an existence. So admit it @Nicholas. You believe that god exists. You just just don't believe that he exists as nothing more than an idea.
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Lol...that's fair. In my experience, there are different kinds of atheists. It is only so-called "strong/positive atheists" that I sometimes have a problem with. I think of "atheist" as a somewhat relative term and that we are all atheistic towards someone's beliefs. If a Hindu has his own concept of god and disbelieves a Christian's concept of god, as far as that Christian is concerned, that Hindu might as well be atheist because his god (Jehovah) is the only true god, therefore, a belief in another god is really a lack of belief in God. Historically, the Greek term atheos (without gods) from which "atheist" is derived, was applied to not only true atheists but also people who did have belief in deities, just not the Greek ones.
I also think that "god" is an idea first and foremost, and there is no denying that the idea exists. With the multitudinous definitions of the term "god', the term "atheist" becomes even more ambiguous, especially when it pre-supposes that all uses and definitions of "god" fits into a certain criteria. If in my conceptualization of god, I concluded that god is water, would you deny that water exists? If not, then you wouldn't be atheistic towards my belief. If you argued that water exists but it isn't god, then you obviously have a belief that god (as an idea) exists as well. You'd have to have a clear concept of god to be able to say what god is or isn't or to even believe or disbelieve in god. WE ALL BELIEVE THAT GOD EXISTS. The only difference is what we believe god exists as. To some people, god exists as an actual physical omnipotent entity in the universe. To others, god exists as a fictional character, word in the dictionary, a figment of some people's imagination....still an existence. So admit it @Nicholas. You believe that god exists. You just just don't believe that he exists as nothing more than an idea.
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