tbh

[Godbody]

In your world, we should hesitate and criticize ideas as if there's no urgency because the site isn't dying & we have all the time in the world to be picky since LB is 1,000,000 strong and growing and P. Diddy and SMACK are reaching out to us and in fact i think Jay-Z's tryna buy LB because its made so much progress this past year


lol..you wouldn't last a day in a work environment that requires brainstorming and quick action

[Godbody]

In your world, we should hesitate and criticize ideas as if there's no urgency because the site isn't dying & we have all the time in the world to be picky since LB is 1,000,000 strong and growing and P. Diddy and SMACK are reaching out to us and in fact i think Jay-Z's tryna buy LB because its made so much progress this past year


lol..you wouldn't last a day in a work environment that requires brainstorming and quick action

@Indianapolis Jones Mainly the rough idea. I never really KNEW Pugz, I've always worked with NOB and pretty much don't pay attention to past bans he handed out.. But at the same time, Why can't I speak my mind on a forum without getting the hammer..? All I wanted was the site tapes to get a spin :] Not too much to asked for tbh.

@Indianapolis Jones Mainly the rough idea. I never really KNEW Pugz, I've always worked with NOB and pretty much don't pay attention to past bans he handed out.. But at the same time, Why can't I speak my mind on a forum without getting the hammer..? All I wanted was the site tapes to get a spin :] Not too much to asked for tbh.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

I remember now although not in perfect detail as it was so long ago. What I do remember though is you posting on one of the threads saying the way I was handling deadlines was retarded and calling me some name in the process. My response was asking you to discuss it with me in PMs. You continued to say what I was doing was stupid in the open forum.

I didn't want to discuss the way I was running deadlines in the public forum especially with another moderator that was intent on name calling. Name calling is all well and fine, it's all part of the fun in the forums but not when it's two moderators discussing an issue. That was my problem with you. I would of been more than willing to have had a reasonable discussion with you in private about deadlines.

You should probably dig up that thread. I think you'll find I wasn't getting in your face about it or being obnoxious about it (until you got on the defensive/ offensive how ever you would put it)

If I did I apologize. I don't think I did though. So like I said. Check.

I think it was because you offered NO extension. And I said you should atleast offer some sort of extension, not to eliminate, but to minimize no show. And you were having none of it. You have to show some lee way. Sure people are going to no show regardless but you have to show a little leniency and atleast give people a chance to post.

By doing what you did you cut off your nose to spite your face.

I get it. in principle you should show for set deadlines but for this site and EVERY and I mean EVERY other rap battle/text battle thats just not the case. Thats why we ALL use extensions as a back up.

Caps are to emphasize the FACTS not to belittle. because trust me. I've been around.

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Originally Posted by Godbody

In your world, we should hesitate and criticize ideas as if there's no urgency because the site isn't dying & we have all the time in the world to be picky since LB is 1,000,000 strong and growing and P. Diddy and SMACK are reaching out to us and in fact i think Jay-Z's tryna buy LB because its made so much progress this past year


lol..you wouldn't last a day in a work environment that requires brainstorming and quick action

Not at all. In my world if I put an idea to someone and that person says. That wont work because xy and z I'll take it and their solution on board.

You mention brainstorming yet the act of brainstorming takes MORE than ONE person.

Lol The noble nic thing is a classic case of brainstorming and 1 saying talk to the hand.

Based on what both me and YOU have read in this thread.

You haven't debunked me. You've just reenforced my take on the situation. A lack of co-operation from 1 party taking things personal.

1 key to brainstorming is having a thick skin.

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Originally Posted by Punk

@Indianapolis Jones Mainly the rough idea. I never really KNEW Pugz, I've always worked with NOB and pretty much don't pay attention to past bans he handed out.. But at the same time, Why can't I speak my mind on a forum without getting the hammer..? All I wanted was the site tapes to get a spin :] Not too much to asked for tbh.

I get that. But there's speaking your mind and then there is pestering. And pestering the kind of person where it is impossible not to know the final outcome.

I don't think you should of been banned. But I knew you WOULD.. The way you were going.

Surely you knew this. You're not an idiot.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

I remember now although not in perfect detail as it was so long ago. What I do remember though is you posting on one of the threads saying the way I was handling deadlines was retarded and calling me some name in the process. My response was asking you to discuss it with me in PMs. You continued to say what I was doing was stupid in the open forum.

I didn't want to discuss the way I was running deadlines in the public forum especially with another moderator that was intent on name calling. Name calling is all well and fine, it's all part of the fun in the forums but not when it's two moderators discussing an issue. That was my problem with you. I would of been more than willing to have had a reasonable discussion with you in private about deadlines.

You should probably dig up that thread. I think you'll find I wasn't getting in your face about it or being obnoxious about it (until you got on the defensive/ offensive how ever you would put it)

If I did I apologize. I don't think I did though. So like I said. Check.

I think it was because you offered NO extension. And I said you should atleast offer some sort of extension, not to eliminate, but to minimize no show. And you were having none of it. You have to show some lee way. Sure people are going to no show regardless but you have to show a little leniency and atleast give people a chance to post.

By doing what you did you cut off your nose to spite your face.

I get it. in principle you should show for set deadlines but for this site and EVERY and I mean EVERY other rap battle/text battle thats just not the case. Thats why we ALL use extensions as a back up.

Caps are to emphasize the FACTS not to belittle. because trust me. I've been around.

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Originally Posted by Godbody

In your world, we should hesitate and criticize ideas as if there's no urgency because the site isn't dying & we have all the time in the world to be picky since LB is 1,000,000 strong and growing and P. Diddy and SMACK are reaching out to us and in fact i think Jay-Z's tryna buy LB because its made so much progress this past year


lol..you wouldn't last a day in a work environment that requires brainstorming and quick action

Not at all. In my world if I put an idea to someone and that person says. That wont work because xy and z I'll take it and their solution on board.

You mention brainstorming yet the act of brainstorming takes MORE than ONE person.

Lol The noble nic thing is a classic case of brainstorming and 1 saying talk to the hand.

Based on what both me and YOU have read in this thread.

You haven't debunked me. You've just reenforced my take on the situation. A lack of co-operation from 1 party taking things personal.

1 key to brainstorming is having a thick skin.

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Originally Posted by Punk

@Indianapolis Jones Mainly the rough idea. I never really KNEW Pugz, I've always worked with NOB and pretty much don't pay attention to past bans he handed out.. But at the same time, Why can't I speak my mind on a forum without getting the hammer..? All I wanted was the site tapes to get a spin :] Not too much to asked for tbh.

I get that. But there's speaking your mind and then there is pestering. And pestering the kind of person where it is impossible not to know the final outcome.

I don't think you should of been banned. But I knew you WOULD.. The way you were going.

Surely you knew this. You're not an idiot.

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

You should probably dig up that thread. I think you'll find I wasn't getting in your face about it or being obnoxious about it (until you got on the defensive/ offensive how ever you would put it)

If I did I apologize. I don't think I did though. So like I said. Check.

I think it was because you offered NO extension. And I said you should atleast offer some sort of extension, not to eliminate, but to minimize no show. And you were having none of it. You have to show some lee way. Sure people are going to no show regardless but you have to show a little leniency and atleast give people a chance to post.

By doing what you did you cut off your nose to spite your face.

I get it. in principle you should show for set deadlines but for this site and EVERY and I mean EVERY other rap battle/text battle thats just not the case. Thats why we ALL use extensions as a back up.

Caps are to emphasize the FACTS not to belittle. because trust me. I've been around.

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Not at all. In my world if I put an idea to someone and that person says. That wont work because xy and z I'll take it and their solution on board.

You mention brainstorming yet the act of brainstorming takes MORE than ONE person.

Lol The noble nic thing is a classic case of brainstorming and 1 saying talk to the hand.

Based on what both me and YOU have read in this thread.

You haven't debunked me. You've just reenforced my take on the situation. A lack of co-operation from 1 party taking things personal.

1 key to brainstorming is having a thick skin.

Found the thread. You're right in that I was being too strict with deadlines although you don't get the context with this thread. I had spoken to Fiji via PM about deadlines over and over again. He still no-showed despite us talking about it extensively. Then he posted the thread crying about it and tagging every moderator and administrator under the sun. I should of let him post after the deadline in hindsight, but I have to stress he knew the deal via PMs.

I was then annoyed because Fiji's crying and bitching had effectively got him the result he wanted and thrown the whole PPV into question. I think staff should discuss staff issues privately, and that was the protocol in every other incident hence my bringing up of your situation with Dave. That's when you began the name calling, I didn't engage with you.

Link to thread: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143164

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

You should probably dig up that thread. I think you'll find I wasn't getting in your face about it or being obnoxious about it (until you got on the defensive/ offensive how ever you would put it)

If I did I apologize. I don't think I did though. So like I said. Check.

I think it was because you offered NO extension. And I said you should atleast offer some sort of extension, not to eliminate, but to minimize no show. And you were having none of it. You have to show some lee way. Sure people are going to no show regardless but you have to show a little leniency and atleast give people a chance to post.

By doing what you did you cut off your nose to spite your face.

I get it. in principle you should show for set deadlines but for this site and EVERY and I mean EVERY other rap battle/text battle thats just not the case. Thats why we ALL use extensions as a back up.

Caps are to emphasize the FACTS not to belittle. because trust me. I've been around.

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Not at all. In my world if I put an idea to someone and that person says. That wont work because xy and z I'll take it and their solution on board.

You mention brainstorming yet the act of brainstorming takes MORE than ONE person.

Lol The noble nic thing is a classic case of brainstorming and 1 saying talk to the hand.

Based on what both me and YOU have read in this thread.

You haven't debunked me. You've just reenforced my take on the situation. A lack of co-operation from 1 party taking things personal.

1 key to brainstorming is having a thick skin.

Found the thread. You're right in that I was being too strict with deadlines although you don't get the context with this thread. I had spoken to Fiji via PM about deadlines over and over again. He still no-showed despite us talking about it extensively. Then he posted the thread crying about it and tagging every moderator and administrator under the sun. I should of let him post after the deadline in hindsight, but I have to stress he knew the deal via PMs.

I was then annoyed because Fiji's crying and bitching had effectively got him the result he wanted and thrown the whole PPV into question. I think staff should discuss staff issues privately, and that was the protocol in every other incident hence my bringing up of your situation with Dave. That's when you began the name calling, I didn't engage with you.

Link to thread: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143164

[Insuppressible]

so serious

[Insuppressible]

so serious

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Insuppressible

so serious

Coming from a guy who scours the net to catch biters. I appreciate what you do but c'mon. pull the other 1. Don't act nonchalant.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Insuppressible

so serious

Coming from a guy who scours the net to catch biters. I appreciate what you do but c'mon. pull the other 1. Don't act nonchalant.

[Insuppressible]

i gave my two cents in the first couple of pages

[Insuppressible]

i gave my two cents in the first couple of pages

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Found the thread. You're right in that I was being too strict with deadlines although you don't get the context with this thread. I had spoken to Fiji via PM about deadlines over and over again. He still no-showed despite us talking about it extensively. Then he posted the thread crying about it and tagging every moderator and administrator under the sun. I should of let him post after the deadline in hindsight, but I have to stress he knew the deal via PMs.

I was then annoyed because Fiji's crying and bitching had effectively got him the result he wanted and thrown the whole PPV into question. I think staff should discuss staff issues privately, and that was the protocol in every other incident hence my bringing up of your situation with Dave. That's when you began the name calling, I didn't engage with you.

Link to thread: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143164

I haven't clicked the link yet to read through but yeah. Now you mention it I remember Fiji being the focal point for why it all came to ahead.

My point was and still is. regardless of Fijis involvement, as a 1 off. (I'm guessing I wasn't INITIALLY being a dick since you didn't bring me to task ) Is that if a mod tells you/informs you of something. You should atleast take it on board and not be so jumpy about it. Co-operation isn't a 1 way street. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take the hit on the chin (for lack of a better term. Thats just what it seemed like at the time and seems like the case with Noble telling you your designs weren't up to snuff, atleast for what he had in mind)

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Originally Posted by Insuppressible

i gave my two cents in the first couple of pages

Fair enough. I been loner drinking at home on a Friday night like a lame so this is the only post of yours that stuck out in the haze. came across as trollish and dismissive.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Found the thread. You're right in that I was being too strict with deadlines although you don't get the context with this thread. I had spoken to Fiji via PM about deadlines over and over again. He still no-showed despite us talking about it extensively. Then he posted the thread crying about it and tagging every moderator and administrator under the sun. I should of let him post after the deadline in hindsight, but I have to stress he knew the deal via PMs.

I was then annoyed because Fiji's crying and bitching had effectively got him the result he wanted and thrown the whole PPV into question. I think staff should discuss staff issues privately, and that was the protocol in every other incident hence my bringing up of your situation with Dave. That's when you began the name calling, I didn't engage with you.

Link to thread: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143164

I haven't clicked the link yet to read through but yeah. Now you mention it I remember Fiji being the focal point for why it all came to ahead.

My point was and still is. regardless of Fijis involvement, as a 1 off. (I'm guessing I wasn't INITIALLY being a dick since you didn't bring me to task ) Is that if a mod tells you/informs you of something. You should atleast take it on board and not be so jumpy about it. Co-operation isn't a 1 way street. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take the hit on the chin (for lack of a better term. Thats just what it seemed like at the time and seems like the case with Noble telling you your designs weren't up to snuff, atleast for what he had in mind)

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Originally Posted by Insuppressible

i gave my two cents in the first couple of pages

Fair enough. I been loner drinking at home on a Friday night like a lame so this is the only post of yours that stuck out in the haze. came across as trollish and dismissive.

[Insuppressible]

it's saturday morning...

[Insuppressible]

it's saturday morning...

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I haven't clicked the link yet to read through but yeah. Now you mention it I remember Fiji being the focal point for why it all came to ahead.

My point was and still is. regardless of Fijis involvement, as a 1 off. (I'm guessing I wasn't INITIALLY being a dick since you didn't bring me to task ) Is that if a mod tells you/informs you of something. You should atleast take it on board and not be so jumpy about it. Co-operation isn't a 1 way street. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take the hit on the chin (for lack of a better term. Thats just what it seemed like at the time and seems like the case with Noble telling you your designs weren't up to snuff, atleast for what he had in mind)

I feel like you're zoning in on a minor point though with the designs. I posted a long post when we started this conversation outlining dozens of reasons. As I said in an earlier post for all I cared NOBLE could have designed the awards himself. I suggested that the awards system be taken advantage of more and that awards were proactively given out. NOBLE insisted that the awards system as it is now was working fine but said he wouldn't be opposed to adding in some more awards for meeting a certain number of posts '1000 posts' etc. Which I think actually got implemented in the end but my initial plans were far more extensive than that.

At a time when people wanted to decrease the amount of user titles, awards could of been used as an alternative and been made to have been seen as valuable to users. Instead we got what we have now, a few discrete awards that people still don't care about. This comes back to my question to NOBLE which was what has he done as an administrator since my absence. My ideas weren't seen as worthy so what was the alternative? What have we been given in their place....

Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones

I haven't clicked the link yet to read through but yeah. Now you mention it I remember Fiji being the focal point for why it all came to ahead.

My point was and still is. regardless of Fijis involvement, as a 1 off. (I'm guessing I wasn't INITIALLY being a dick since you didn't bring me to task ) Is that if a mod tells you/informs you of something. You should atleast take it on board and not be so jumpy about it. Co-operation isn't a 1 way street. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take the hit on the chin (for lack of a better term. Thats just what it seemed like at the time and seems like the case with Noble telling you your designs weren't up to snuff, atleast for what he had in mind)

I feel like you're zoning in on a minor point though with the designs. I posted a long post when we started this conversation outlining dozens of reasons. As I said in an earlier post for all I cared NOBLE could have designed the awards himself. I suggested that the awards system be taken advantage of more and that awards were proactively given out. NOBLE insisted that the awards system as it is now was working fine but said he wouldn't be opposed to adding in some more awards for meeting a certain number of posts '1000 posts' etc. Which I think actually got implemented in the end but my initial plans were far more extensive than that.

At a time when people wanted to decrease the amount of user titles, awards could of been used as an alternative and been made to have been seen as valuable to users. Instead we got what we have now, a few discrete awards that people still don't care about. This comes back to my question to NOBLE which was what has he done as an administrator since my absence. My ideas weren't seen as worthy so what was the alternative? What have we been given in their place....