God

[OATS]

science explains the ultimate how not the ultimate why

and i am a wretched sinner any christian who tells you otherwise is well.....just read the bible


and yeah i believe in God i just had another spiritual experiance tonight

prove it to me

that God doesnt exist

[OATS]

science explains the ultimate how not the ultimate why

and i am a wretched sinner any christian who tells you otherwise is well.....just read the bible


and yeah i believe in God i just had another spiritual experiance tonight

prove it to me

that God doesnt exist

[Warren Peece]

ok..Believe in Jesus that doesn't bother me at all.

No historians say that though. NONE. And that's to say you're NOT counting the "hundreds" of other people with the name of "Jesus" that existed back then .

You guys claim to have your personal experiences. There you go then. You have faith that it was the grace of God or Jesus that has done that to you. Faith..that he has done that to you. FAITH

We can close this thread with it being at that. You're beliefs are based on faith. Not to say it's NOT true. But you can't walk arround using that to justify your belief.

Trust me..I've had expereinces (not godly or spiritual) with "multi-dimensional" entities. Not saying they're spirits, or ghosts, or demons, or w.e. you want to call it. But I have expereienced shit like that. And I have seen triangular ufo's . I understand the aspect of experiencing something and someone not believing you because they've not experienced the same.

Never should I expect them to believe it though unless they have gone through the same thing.

Honestly..I think people who really think someone is talking to him may be delusional or have a nueorlogical disorder.

Then again, this is something no body can prove right nor wrong. At no point do I believe in a Christian God..

This is what I say. If I think a God is to exist..I think they are COMPLETELY unware of our existence. Meaning they didn't just come about like "yo adam and eve, dont eat those fruits" -

This is what I want to know though..you guys have these experiencess..so you piont the finger at Jesus..which primarily goes into the category of christianity..so once it goes into there, you accept "him" because you were "proven by him"..but ..you're also saying, in doing that..that you're ACCEPTING every other ounce of baggage that goes along with this belief system. Meaning you really think he may have walked on water, a snake really may have talked to eve, and a virgin may have really became PREGOO
That doesn't quite add up to me.

All I have to say is..Believe NOTHING Think EVERYTHING

You can't tell me that..going to a CERTAIN BELIEF doesn't INVOLVE "FILTERING" OUT other information that may not be compatible

with that being said, .. well..it should be self explanatory

[Warren Peece]

ok..Believe in Jesus that doesn't bother me at all.

No historians say that though. NONE. And that's to say you're NOT counting the "hundreds" of other people with the name of "Jesus" that existed back then .

You guys claim to have your personal experiences. There you go then. You have faith that it was the grace of God or Jesus that has done that to you. Faith..that he has done that to you. FAITH

We can close this thread with it being at that. You're beliefs are based on faith. Not to say it's NOT true. But you can't walk arround using that to justify your belief.

Trust me..I've had expereinces (not godly or spiritual) with "multi-dimensional" entities. Not saying they're spirits, or ghosts, or demons, or w.e. you want to call it. But I have expereienced shit like that. And I have seen triangular ufo's . I understand the aspect of experiencing something and someone not believing you because they've not experienced the same.

Never should I expect them to believe it though unless they have gone through the same thing.

Honestly..I think people who really think someone is talking to him may be delusional or have a nueorlogical disorder.

Then again, this is something no body can prove right nor wrong. At no point do I believe in a Christian God..

This is what I say. If I think a God is to exist..I think they are COMPLETELY unware of our existence. Meaning they didn't just come about like "yo adam and eve, dont eat those fruits" -

This is what I want to know though..you guys have these experiencess..so you piont the finger at Jesus..which primarily goes into the category of christianity..so once it goes into there, you accept "him" because you were "proven by him"..but ..you're also saying, in doing that..that you're ACCEPTING every other ounce of baggage that goes along with this belief system. Meaning you really think he may have walked on water, a snake really may have talked to eve, and a virgin may have really became PREGOO
That doesn't quite add up to me.

All I have to say is..Believe NOTHING Think EVERYTHING

You can't tell me that..going to a CERTAIN BELIEF doesn't INVOLVE "FILTERING" OUT other information that may not be compatible

with that being said, .. well..it should be self explanatory

[OATS]

yo you really are too "smart" to understand "simple" belief

God exist and you really turned me into an athiest

[OATS]

yo you really are too "smart" to understand "simple" belief

God exist and you really turned me into an athiest

[OATS]

every thing you believe is based on faith Warren

[OATS]

every thing you believe is based on faith Warren

[Exalted Echelon]

christians remind me of democrats

[Exalted Echelon]

christians remind me of democrats

[Warren Peece]

Oats. you completely mis understood what I was trying to say.

Yes faith..but my faith is atleast applied with LOGICAL REASONING. ... what is the most relevant to everything? What is more logical or illogical? What is more logical..is the most relative.

[Warren Peece]

Oats. you completely mis understood what I was trying to say.

Yes faith..but my faith is atleast applied with LOGICAL REASONING. ... what is the most relevant to everything? What is more logical or illogical? What is more logical..is the most relative.

[OATS]

nah God is logical. Im not as intelligent as you Warren i can admit that we even agree sometimes. Cool. i dont want to convert you. But get you to understand my perspective. dont take my words as a insult and i apologize for my ignorance but i do indeed know that God exist. but you dont have to. what can i do to save you. in my opinion only jesus saves and i have been judging this whole time. im sorry. C.S. lewis has some good stuff you may want to check out becuase he explains why christians take the "risk" of christianity

[OATS]

nah God is logical. Im not as intelligent as you Warren i can admit that we even agree sometimes. Cool. i dont want to convert you. But get you to understand my perspective. dont take my words as a insult and i apologize for my ignorance but i do indeed know that God exist. but you dont have to. what can i do to save you. in my opinion only jesus saves and i have been judging this whole time. im sorry. C.S. lewis has some good stuff you may want to check out becuase he explains why christians take the "risk" of christianity

[OATS]

Originally Posted by Jason

how do you know God exists?

same way you dont

[OATS]

Originally Posted by Jason

how do you know God exists?

same way you dont

[Exalted Echelon]

Originally Posted by OATS

same way you dont

the burden of proof is on the believer more so then the non-believer

why is it any different from UFO's? some people "claim to see them and believe in them" so most people think they are mistaken.......why is God any different?

there is no difference in the two, just the difference in the general acceptance

[Exalted Echelon]

Originally Posted by OATS

same way you dont

the burden of proof is on the believer more so then the non-believer

why is it any different from UFO's? some people "claim to see them and believe in them" so most people think they are mistaken.......why is God any different?

there is no difference in the two, just the difference in the general acceptance

[Warren Peece]

Jason. Faith.

[Warren Peece]

Jason. Faith.