Science/Religion Debate (BE RESPECTFUL)

Originally Posted by Dono

Christian god supposedly has three attributes.

God is all knowing.
God is all powerful.
God is all good.

If that's the case there should be no evil or pain in the world. Oh but you need pain to know pleasure you say? Why? I can concieve of a state of existence where you could feel pleasure and not need to know pain. If god is all knowing, he knows that. If he is all powerful he should be able to change the paramaters of our reality. If he is all good he must know that is preferential to being in pain.

So God must be lacking at least one of these attributes.......that means I'm not listening to any of the other shit in the Bible or anywhere else from these sources.

If god exists it is not in any form espouted by religion, at least Christianity. Just pure logic, don't really need examples. If someone can refute this let me know.

Earth is generally not conceived as heaven, specifically in Christianity as you said. Earth has pain and suffering because this is not paradise. This is the test. We go through this to prove out worth, and prove ourselves as people. God doesn't architect each person to be a good person. God doesn't control it all. Humans are born with freewill, and are not free from concious thought, so decisions are all made from us.

Originally Posted by Dono

Christian god supposedly has three attributes.

God is all knowing.
God is all powerful.
God is all good.

If that's the case there should be no evil or pain in the world. Oh but you need pain to know pleasure you say? Why? I can concieve of a state of existence where you could feel pleasure and not need to know pain. If god is all knowing, he knows that. If he is all powerful he should be able to change the paramaters of our reality. If he is all good he must know that is preferential to being in pain.

So God must be lacking at least one of these attributes.......that means I'm not listening to any of the other shit in the Bible or anywhere else from these sources.

If god exists it is not in any form espouted by religion, at least Christianity. Just pure logic, don't really need examples. If someone can refute this let me know.

Earth is generally not conceived as heaven, specifically in Christianity as you said. Earth has pain and suffering because this is not paradise. This is the test. We go through this to prove out worth, and prove ourselves as people. God doesn't architect each person to be a good person. God doesn't control it all. Humans are born with freewill, and are not free from concious thought, so decisions are all made from us.