Who/What do you believe in?

Originally Posted by Row

no, its a theory. How can shit come to be from accident? saying i can put cake ingredients in a pot , shake it about and throw it out and a cake is born.

lol, It might not be an accident, Gods' power is limitless, If God wanted to he could put cake ingredients in a pot, shake it and reveal the cake He's the almighty for a reason bro.

Quran verse..

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

Originally Posted by Row

no, its a theory. How can shit come to be from accident? saying i can put cake ingredients in a pot , shake it about and throw it out and a cake is born.

lol, It might not be an accident, Gods' power is limitless, If God wanted to he could put cake ingredients in a pot, shake it and reveal the cake He's the almighty for a reason bro.

Quran verse..

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

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@JimmyDean Wanna know some trippy shit?

Comparison of some life events of Horus and Jesus:

Horus Egyptian God - VS
Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus

Conception: By a virgin. There is some doubt about this matter By a virgin. 3

Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).

Mother: Isis-Meri. 4 Miriam (now often referred to as Mary).

Foster father: Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph). 4 Joseph.

Birth location: In a cave. In a cave or stable.

Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. By an angel to Miriam, his mother. 3

Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. An unidentified "star in the East."

Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.

Birth announcement: By angels. By angels. 3

Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Shepherds. 3

Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities. An unknown number of wise men. 3 They are said to have brought three gifts; thus the legend grew that there were three men.

Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. He was not successful. Herod tried to have Jesus murdered. He was not successful.

Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."

Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored. Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.

Age at the ritual: 12 12

Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. No data between ages of 12 & 30.

Baptism location: In the river Eridanus. In the river Jordan.

Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser. John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.

Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Beheaded.

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@JimmyDean Wanna know some trippy shit?

Comparison of some life events of Horus and Jesus:

Horus Egyptian God - VS
Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus

Conception: By a virgin. There is some doubt about this matter By a virgin. 3

Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).

Mother: Isis-Meri. 4 Miriam (now often referred to as Mary).

Foster father: Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph). 4 Joseph.

Birth location: In a cave. In a cave or stable.

Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. By an angel to Miriam, his mother. 3

Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. An unidentified "star in the East."

Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.

Birth announcement: By angels. By angels. 3

Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Shepherds. 3

Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities. An unknown number of wise men. 3 They are said to have brought three gifts; thus the legend grew that there were three men.

Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. He was not successful. Herod tried to have Jesus murdered. He was not successful.

Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."

Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored. Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.

Age at the ritual: 12 12

Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. No data between ages of 12 & 30.

Baptism location: In the river Eridanus. In the river Jordan.

Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser. John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.

Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Beheaded.

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Originally Posted by emceekilgore

i would consider myself an atheist. i think it's much more likely that there is no god.

I respec that...

[Erupt da Monsta]

Originally Posted by emceekilgore

i would consider myself an atheist. i think it's much more likely that there is no god.

I respec that...

Who are you to say there's no God? Do you understand how big the universe, or universes in that case, are? @emceekilgore

Who are you to say there's no God? Do you understand how big the universe, or universes in that case, are? @emceekilgore

Originally Posted by Fidel Z

lol, It might not be an accident, Gods' power is limitless, If God wanted to he could put cake ingredients in a pot, shake it and reveal the cake He's the almighty for a reason bro.

Quran verse..

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

he could have, but it was not his purpose. And not how he created shit

which is why its called Big Bang "Theory" , a tale created by man.

Originally Posted by Fidel Z

lol, It might not be an accident, Gods' power is limitless, If God wanted to he could put cake ingredients in a pot, shake it and reveal the cake He's the almighty for a reason bro.

Quran verse..

“Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes; and He is the Knowing Creator. His command is only when He intends a thing that He says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” (Quran 36:81-82)

he could have, but it was not his purpose. And not how he created shit

which is why its called Big Bang "Theory" , a tale created by man.

[emceekilgore]

Originally Posted by JimmyDean

Who are you to say there's no God. Do you understand how big the universe, or universes in that case, are? @emceekilgore

did i say there's no god, or did i say that I thought it was more likely that there is no god? evidence (scientific and otherwise) experience (16 years going to church every wednesday and sunday) and a lot of "soul-searching" for lack of a better term have led me to this conclusion.

[emceekilgore]

Originally Posted by JimmyDean

Who are you to say there's no God. Do you understand how big the universe, or universes in that case, are? @emceekilgore

did i say there's no god, or did i say that I thought it was more likely that there is no god? evidence (scientific and otherwise) experience (16 years going to church every wednesday and sunday) and a lot of "soul-searching" for lack of a better term have led me to this conclusion.

[Erupt da Monsta]

Originally Posted by Letum

Wanna know some trippy shit?

Comparison of some life events of Horus and Jesus:

Horus Egyptian God - VS
Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus

Conception: By a virgin. There is some doubt about this matter By a virgin. 3

Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).

Mother: Isis-Meri. 4 Miriam (now often referred to as Mary).

Foster father: Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph). 4 Joseph.

Birth location: In a cave. In a cave or stable.

Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. By an angel to Miriam, his mother. 3

Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. An unidentified "star in the East."

Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.

Birth announcement: By angels. By angels. 3

Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Shepherds. 3

Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities. An unknown number of wise men. 3 They are said to have brought three gifts; thus the legend grew that there were three men.

Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. He was not successful. Herod tried to have Jesus murdered. He was not successful.

Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."

Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored. Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.

Age at the ritual: 12 12

Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. No data between ages of 12 & 30.

Baptism location: In the river Eridanus. In the river Jordan.

Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser. John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.

Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Beheaded.

So you base your faith on a movie ... that whole horus/jesus ish is from the movie Zeitgiest and things of that nature. Most of which are falsified lol he starts the film wiht broadly speaking, lol none of those are facts.... lol and have actually been debunked countless times bro. Please dont tell me you ruled out religion because of Zeitgiest, it is full of lies.

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Originally Posted by Letum

Wanna know some trippy shit?

Comparison of some life events of Horus and Jesus:

Horus Egyptian God - VS
Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus

Conception: By a virgin. There is some doubt about this matter By a virgin. 3

Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).

Mother: Isis-Meri. 4 Miriam (now often referred to as Mary).

Foster father: Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph). 4 Joseph.

Birth location: In a cave. In a cave or stable.

Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. By an angel to Miriam, his mother. 3

Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. An unidentified "star in the East."

Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.

Birth announcement: By angels. By angels. 3

Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Shepherds. 3

Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities. An unknown number of wise men. 3 They are said to have brought three gifts; thus the legend grew that there were three men.

Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. He was not successful. Herod tried to have Jesus murdered. He was not successful.

Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."

Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored. Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.

Age at the ritual: 12 12

Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. No data between ages of 12 & 30.

Baptism location: In the river Eridanus. In the river Jordan.

Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser. John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.

Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Beheaded.

So you base your faith on a movie ... that whole horus/jesus ish is from the movie Zeitgiest and things of that nature. Most of which are falsified lol he starts the film wiht broadly speaking, lol none of those are facts.... lol and have actually been debunked countless times bro. Please dont tell me you ruled out religion because of Zeitgiest, it is full of lies.

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[quote=Moses Kazee;951957][quote=Letum;951949]

Originally Posted by Moses Kazee

Nah theres nothing wrong with believing what you believe. All I'm saying is, most prominent figures in todays world will tell you, they had 100 percent faith in their profession.They blindly took classes in school,people blindly spend thousands of dollars on college, not knowing that they are going to get a job in that field, dedicating their whole lives to something in hopes of acheiving an end goal. Going through this process half heartedly would only make it harder to acheive. You blindly do alot of things everyday.

Horrible college comparison yo, but I get what you are saying.

I think you don't get what I'm saying tho.

I 100% have faith in a 'God'. But I'm not willing to fallow a path to 'God' that most sheeple fallow w/o proof of their beliefs.

Any Atheist or Religious nut are simply closed minded if you ask me.

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[quote=Moses Kazee;951957][quote=Letum;951949]

Originally Posted by Moses Kazee

Nah theres nothing wrong with believing what you believe. All I'm saying is, most prominent figures in todays world will tell you, they had 100 percent faith in their profession.They blindly took classes in school,people blindly spend thousands of dollars on college, not knowing that they are going to get a job in that field, dedicating their whole lives to something in hopes of acheiving an end goal. Going through this process half heartedly would only make it harder to acheive. You blindly do alot of things everyday.

Horrible college comparison yo, but I get what you are saying.

I think you don't get what I'm saying tho.

I 100% have faith in a 'God'. But I'm not willing to fallow a path to 'God' that most sheeple fallow w/o proof of their beliefs.

Any Atheist or Religious nut are simply closed minded if you ask me.

Originally Posted by emceekilgore

did i say there's no god, or did i say that I thought it was more likely that there is no god? evidence (scientific and otherwise) experience (16 years going to church every wednesday and sunday) and a lot of "soul-searching" for lack of a better term have led me to this conclusion.

I was replying to you being an 'atheist.

Originally Posted by emceekilgore

did i say there's no god, or did i say that I thought it was more likely that there is no god? evidence (scientific and otherwise) experience (16 years going to church every wednesday and sunday) and a lot of "soul-searching" for lack of a better term have led me to this conclusion.

I was replying to you being an 'atheist.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Moses Kazee

So you base your faith on a movie ... that whole horus/jesus ish is from the movie Zeitgiest and things of that nature. Most of which are falsified lol he starts the film wiht broadly speaking, lol none of those are facts.... lol and have actually been debunked countless times bro. Please dont tell me you ruled out religion because of Zeitgiest, it is full of lies.

So a book is better to base your faith on than a movie?

And 98% of all religions are not based on facts

Zaitgeist tho? lol but no actually -
References used:

The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay.

Tom Harpur, "The Pagan Christ; Recovering the Lost Light," Thomas Allen, (2004),
Ibid, Page 85.
Ibid, Page 80. Items as seen in the Temple of Luxor, built by Amenhotep III, a pharaoh of the eighteenth dynasty, before 1700 BCE.

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Originally Posted by Moses Kazee

So you base your faith on a movie ... that whole horus/jesus ish is from the movie Zeitgiest and things of that nature. Most of which are falsified lol he starts the film wiht broadly speaking, lol none of those are facts.... lol and have actually been debunked countless times bro. Please dont tell me you ruled out religion because of Zeitgiest, it is full of lies.

So a book is better to base your faith on than a movie?

And 98% of all religions are not based on facts

Zaitgeist tho? lol but no actually -
References used:

The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay.

Tom Harpur, "The Pagan Christ; Recovering the Lost Light," Thomas Allen, (2004),
Ibid, Page 85.
Ibid, Page 80. Items as seen in the Temple of Luxor, built by Amenhotep III, a pharaoh of the eighteenth dynasty, before 1700 BCE.