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Unread 09-11-2013, 03:02 PM
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4 Won / 0 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 stars
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30 Won / 8 Lost
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@EtH is. The most well versed topical head on the entire site besides myself.

For example, I don't know what Black Book's VP is but I feel like he has a better grasp and more experience on topicals than you do (having done more by volume), yet your vote is likely worth quite a bit more than his in the basic arena.

So you probably don't feel it because you're one of the people I feel has too much power in the audio topical arena. After reading several of your votes the way you weight 'topic relation' into your voting is hard to follow and strange by normal topical standards. Not that it's wrong per se, it just doesn't make sense to me. Generally, topical heads (Across sites) come to a consensus that storyline is the most powerful piece of a topical, like punches are to a battle. Not some personal valuation of if you think the person covered the topic in the way you were looking for. Yet audio topicals here constantly lose that story aspect as voters move toward cypherlike values. Better stories are consistently losing to other aspects in a shocking fashion.

Probably touches a little close to home so hopefully that doesn't offend you as we've been on good terms, but I have some strong opinions on topical ish.
Let me ask you this... Have you once congratulated M-Rock since he defeated you in the audio topical or since he won the title? All I've seen you do since it occurred is you complaining and bashing the voters constantly and I honestly would have thought you were bigger than that.
You were always that humble guy who's always looking for elevation in text battles but when it comes to this topical ish, your ego seems to be so wrapped up that you can't even accept a loss. You got emotional the same way in the last audio topical tourney saying you lost to a battle verse. Even if that were the case and every single person who ever voted against you in a topical got it all wrong and doesn't know shit about topicals, are you that ungracious that this is how you react to losing?
You can be content in having received EtH and Black Book's votes alone if that's how you want to go out, but I highly doubt that even those two would say there's absolutely no way they could have conceivably seen M-Rock taking that battle as if the two verses were that far apart and it wasn't even close. M-Rock did a good job in that battle---you both did, and I don't think anyone would deny that.
I don't disagree with you in the notion that this site as a whole has a long way to go in learning to write AND vote on topicals, but I see all your complaints as primarily a response to losing, and it isn't a good look.
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Estimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 7.05/10 stars
Ranked Audio Record
4 Won / 0 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.05/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.71/10 stars
Ranked Text Record
30 Won / 8 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
 
Join Date: May 2011
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Mentioned: 3628 Post(s)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dono View Post
@EtH is. The most well versed topical head on the entire site besides myself.

For example, I don't know what Black Book's VP is but I feel like he has a better grasp and more experience on topicals than you do (having done more by volume), yet your vote is likely worth quite a bit more than his in the basic arena.

So you probably don't feel it because you're one of the people I feel has too much power in the audio topical arena. After reading several of your votes the way you weight 'topic relation' into your voting is hard to follow and strange by normal topical standards. Not that it's wrong per se, it just doesn't make sense to me. Generally, topical heads (Across sites) come to a consensus that storyline is the most powerful piece of a topical, like punches are to a battle. Not some personal valuation of if you think the person covered the topic in the way you were looking for. Yet audio topicals here constantly lose that story aspect as voters move toward cypherlike values. Better stories are consistently losing to other aspects in a shocking fashion.

Probably touches a little close to home so hopefully that doesn't offend you as we've been on good terms, but I have some strong opinions on topical ish.
Let me ask you this... Have you once congratulated M-Rock since he defeated you in the audio topical or since he won the title? All I've seen you do since it occurred is you complaining and bashing the voters constantly and I honestly would have thought you were bigger than that.
You were always that humble guy who's always looking for elevation in text battles but when it comes to this topical ish, your ego seems to be so wrapped up that you can't even accept a loss. You got emotional the same way in the last audio topical tourney saying you lost to a battle verse. Even if that were the case and every single person who ever voted against you in a topical got it all wrong and doesn't know shit about topicals, are you that ungracious that this is how you react to losing?
You can be content in having received EtH and Black Book's votes alone if that's how you want to go out, but I highly doubt that even those two would say there's absolutely no way they could have conceivably seen M-Rock taking that battle as if the two verses were that far apart and it wasn't even close. M-Rock did a good job in that battle---you both did, and I don't think anyone would deny that.
I don't disagree with you in the notion that this site as a whole has a long way to go in learning to write AND vote on topicals, but I see all your complaints as primarily a response to losing, and it isn't a good look.
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