FVC Membership Contest Round 3 (Text) - Page 3 - Lets Beef

**Teek** · #21 08-02-2012, 02:57 PM

VOTED@Dissizit™ vs @ILLoKWENT™VOTED
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443197
Dissizit™: Oversoul: 3 / roxyG: 2
ILLoKWENT™: Oversoul: 4 / roxyG: 4
Expo: Ok, both expos had their merits, but this is a competition. A running theme I'm seeing among voters is "Do this" without a "How you do that". Adding the latter differentiates a quality basic expo, from a quality FVC expo to me. "Change this, this and this" without telling how can fall on deaf ears, or eyes. An expo should educate and inform, and FVC should do that better than others. I felt Illokwent went into more depth and specifics in his expo, he also gave examples how to do things differently, which will have more impact on the battler. As for Dissizit, I thought you did very well in the expo, but I was just looking for a little more. This is Round 3 after all. I also felt a 2 for Roxy was a little low, considering they did pull off some decent work, it was just lacking. Props to you both.
Pick: Illokwent

**Teek** · 08-02-2012, 02:57 PM

VOTED@Dissizit™ vs @ILLoKWENT™VOTED
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443197
Dissizit™: Oversoul: 3 / roxyG: 2
ILLoKWENT™: Oversoul: 4 / roxyG: 4
Expo: Ok, both expos had their merits, but this is a competition. A running theme I'm seeing among voters is "Do this" without a "How you do that". Adding the latter differentiates a quality basic expo, from a quality FVC expo to me. "Change this, this and this" without telling how can fall on deaf ears, or eyes. An expo should educate and inform, and FVC should do that better than others. I felt Illokwent went into more depth and specifics in his expo, he also gave examples how to do things differently, which will have more impact on the battler. As for Dissizit, I thought you did very well in the expo, but I was just looking for a little more. This is Round 3 after all. I also felt a 2 for Roxy was a little low, considering they did pull off some decent work, it was just lacking. Props to you both.
Pick: Illokwent

**NOBLE** · #22 08-04-2012, 12:21 AM

@Ill Phenom vs @~SHINIGAMI~
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443179
~SHINIGAMI~ Voted: emcjk: 5 / -xiLeD: 6
Ill Phenom Voted: emcjk: 3 / -xiLeD: 5
I felt Ill Phenom gave a more detailed expo and his rating was more accurate in this battle. Vote: Ill Phenom

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@Student vs @Fiji Osa
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443187
Fiji Osa Voted: Rizzem: 3 / IndicaL: 5
Student Voted: Rizzem: 4 / IndicaL: 5
I felt Student's expo was more thorough and hands-on and he even offered to help via PM. Vote: Student

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@Dissizit™ vs @ILLoKWENT™
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443197
ILLoKWENT™ Voted: roxyG: 4 / Oversoul: 4
Voted: roxyG: 2 / Oversoul: 3
ILLoKWENT touched on more problem areas and went into more detail in his expo. I just didn't think the two battlers should have the same rating though, so Dissizit's rate seems more accurate. Vote: ILLoKWENT

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@Phenomonon vs @Erupt
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443178
Phenomonon Voted: -xiLeD: 5 / blue spider: 3
Erupt Voted: -xiLeD: 2 / blue spider: 1
Phenomonon, your expo was way too long. Erupt, your rating was too low imo, especially for -xiLeD. I would have given him a 4 for "slightly below average." Phenomonon, you sometimes used 3 sentences or more to say things you could have said in 1. Erupt was a lot more concise. Even though Erupt's expo was shorter, he actually highlighted more problem areas the battlers were having...like readability and syllable count. I did feel Phenomonon had the more helpful tone though....even offering to personally PM the battlers some resources that may help them improve. Both had certain virtues to their expos which made this one hard to judge, but weighing everything together, I think Phenomonon gave the better overall vote. Vote: Phenomonon

**NOBLE** · 08-04-2012, 12:21 AM

@Ill Phenom vs @~SHINIGAMI~
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443179
~SHINIGAMI~ Voted: emcjk: 5 / -xiLeD: 6
Ill Phenom Voted: emcjk: 3 / -xiLeD: 5
I felt Ill Phenom gave a more detailed expo and his rating was more accurate in this battle. Vote: Ill Phenom

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@Student vs @Fiji Osa
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443187
Fiji Osa Voted: Rizzem: 3 / IndicaL: 5
Student Voted: Rizzem: 4 / IndicaL: 5
I felt Student's expo was more thorough and hands-on and he even offered to help via PM. Vote: Student

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@Dissizit™ vs @ILLoKWENT™
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443197
ILLoKWENT™ Voted: roxyG: 4 / Oversoul: 4
Voted: roxyG: 2 / Oversoul: 3
ILLoKWENT touched on more problem areas and went into more detail in his expo. I just didn't think the two battlers should have the same rating though, so Dissizit's rate seems more accurate. Vote: ILLoKWENT

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@Phenomonon vs @Erupt
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=443178
Phenomonon Voted: -xiLeD: 5 / blue spider: 3
Erupt Voted: -xiLeD: 2 / blue spider: 1
Phenomonon, your expo was way too long. Erupt, your rating was too low imo, especially for -xiLeD. I would have given him a 4 for "slightly below average." Phenomonon, you sometimes used 3 sentences or more to say things you could have said in 1. Erupt was a lot more concise. Even though Erupt's expo was shorter, he actually highlighted more problem areas the battlers were having...like readability and syllable count. I did feel Phenomonon had the more helpful tone though....even offering to personally PM the battlers some resources that may help them improve. Both had certain virtues to their expos which made this one hard to judge, but weighing everything together, I think Phenomonon gave the better overall vote. Vote: Phenomonon

**NOBLE** · #23 08-07-2012, 04:26 PM

We still need a few more mod votes to close this tourney, but here are the standings so far:

@Ill Phenom (8 pts) +1
@Student (8 pts) +1
@TalkSick (8 pts)
@ILLoKWENT™ (6 pts) +1
@Path (6 pts) +2
@BP Pride (6 pts)
@Dissizit™ (6 pts)
@Erupt (6 pts) +2
@Fiji Osa (5 pts) +1
@Phenomonon (4 pts) +2
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@Dave (3 pts)
@Skilligan™ (3 pts)
@Unyqe (1 pts) +2
@vvvv (1 pts)
@~SHINIGAMI~ (0 pts) +1
@Verity (0 pts)
@BLNK (0 pts)
@MadVerbs (0 pts)

A +1 or +2 means you still have the potential to earn that many more points once the judges vote. Only the top 10 will be inducted, and judging from where the points are now and where they could turn out to be, that top 10 is already set. I'll start getting everything in order to place the top 10 names in the FVC including rasing your vp's and PM'ing admins to swith your usergroups and titles. Ill Phenom, Student, and TalkSick have earned their choice of emcee items as prizes. Erupt, Path, and ILLoKWENT may still earn that depending on how the judges's votes go. I will PM all those who are inducted a welcome note along with further instructions regarding what is expected of you over the next couple of days. I will also see about getting the FVC forum back up so we can open our voting threads. Once this round closes, I will unstick this thread and post a new one listing the final results. Thank all of you guys for particpating, and Thank you to our judges @RhetoriK™, @RULE, @Teek, @AfterThought. This couldn't have gone well without you.

**NOBLE** · 08-07-2012, 04:26 PM

We still need a few more mod votes to close this tourney, but here are the standings so far:

@Ill Phenom (8 pts) +1
@Student (8 pts) +1
@TalkSick (8 pts)
@ILLoKWENT™ (6 pts) +1
@Path (6 pts) +2
@BP Pride (6 pts)
@Dissizit™ (6 pts)
@Erupt (6 pts) +2
@Fiji Osa (5 pts) +1
@Phenomonon (4 pts) +2
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@Dave (3 pts)
@Skilligan™ (3 pts)
@Unyqe (1 pts) +2
@vvvv (1 pts)
@~SHINIGAMI~ (0 pts) +1
@Verity (0 pts)
@BLNK (0 pts)
@MadVerbs (0 pts)

A +1 or +2 means you still have the potential to earn that many more points once the judges vote. Only the top 10 will be inducted, and judging from where the points are now and where they could turn out to be, that top 10 is already set. I'll start getting everything in order to place the top 10 names in the FVC including rasing your vp's and PM'ing admins to swith your usergroups and titles. Ill Phenom, Student, and TalkSick have earned their choice of emcee items as prizes. Erupt, Path, and ILLoKWENT may still earn that depending on how the judges's votes go. I will PM all those who are inducted a welcome note along with further instructions regarding what is expected of you over the next couple of days. I will also see about getting the FVC forum back up so we can open our voting threads. Once this round closes, I will unstick this thread and post a new one listing the final results. Thank all of you guys for particpating, and Thank you to our judges @RhetoriK™, @RULE, @Teek, @AfterThought. This couldn't have gone well without you.

**TalkSick** · #24 08-07-2012, 04:41 PM

Sounds good

**TalkSick** · 08-07-2012, 04:41 PM

Sounds good

#25 08-07-2012, 04:49 PM

THis shit is so fucking stupid Noble... jesus what a fucking waste of time.. at some point you have to sit back and wonder what the fuck happened to you

08-07-2012, 04:49 PM

THis shit is so fucking stupid Noble... jesus what a fucking waste of time.. at some point you have to sit back and wonder what the fuck happened to you

**RhetoriK** · #26 08-09-2012, 02:32 PM

Path vs Unyqe

Both had some valid points. From the voting perspective here are some thoughts:

Path -

I understand your frustrations. I liked and agreed with your analysis on Pistons, but honestly half of that shit is for the PM's get to the point in a vote. Imo a vote shouldn't take more than a single comment. Lyri's side was less accurate. i think it's mainly because you put a lot of emphasis on capping rhymes, when the real issue is picking content that schemes better. whether it's capped or not, it still has to rhyme. i think that was the basic point you were getting at so it's all good. now, with all that said. you really struggled to keep shit concealed with such a long winded breakdown. by the time i finished reading the first one, i already got the idea that you're telling kid "good try" .work on keeping shit concise and discreet. keep it 100 but like i mentioned. a lot of that stuff can be hashed out in a PM or something.

Unyqe

you were on point as a whole, but how about not insulting someones intellegence in the opening line of an expo lmao... 'i think you're basic, so i'll keep it simple (stupid)' priceless. nah, really keep objectivity in the comments and get to the point lol ok.. again, there's a capping obsession i don't fully get. neither of these dudes un-capping/capping ish would have helped their verse flow ANY better. shy away from that perspective. the comment about self-directed lines was solid that's def. a help to someone trying to elevate. you're not telling them how to win, you're giving a vote! keep that in mind " you the idea of punches and concepts, however they were not executed properly at all." <-neither was this part of your explanation. again you lost objectivity when you told son "he's better than that" ...keep shit on an even plane, you can PM him and tell him he's better in person. not a line for publicly viewed battles.

Overall... the votes suited the battle (Meh) both need to get to the point, be objective, and drop a vote. period. the rates were more accurate than the comments entailed though, so there's merit in that. keep building though.

Vote - Path gets my vote but not by much

**RhetoriK** · 08-09-2012, 02:32 PM

Path vs Unyqe

Both had some valid points. From the voting perspective here are some thoughts:

Path -

I understand your frustrations. I liked and agreed with your analysis on Pistons, but honestly half of that shit is for the PM's get to the point in a vote. Imo a vote shouldn't take more than a single comment. Lyri's side was less accurate. i think it's mainly because you put a lot of emphasis on capping rhymes, when the real issue is picking content that schemes better. whether it's capped or not, it still has to rhyme. i think that was the basic point you were getting at so it's all good. now, with all that said. you really struggled to keep shit concealed with such a long winded breakdown. by the time i finished reading the first one, i already got the idea that you're telling kid "good try" .work on keeping shit concise and discreet. keep it 100 but like i mentioned. a lot of that stuff can be hashed out in a PM or something.

Unyqe

you were on point as a whole, but how about not insulting someones intellegence in the opening line of an expo lmao... 'i think you're basic, so i'll keep it simple (stupid)' priceless. nah, really keep objectivity in the comments and get to the point lol ok.. again, there's a capping obsession i don't fully get. neither of these dudes un-capping/capping ish would have helped their verse flow ANY better. shy away from that perspective. the comment about self-directed lines was solid that's def. a help to someone trying to elevate. you're not telling them how to win, you're giving a vote! keep that in mind " you the idea of punches and concepts, however they were not executed properly at all." <-neither was this part of your explanation. again you lost objectivity when you told son "he's better than that" ...keep shit on an even plane, you can PM him and tell him he's better in person. not a line for publicly viewed battles.

Overall... the votes suited the battle (Meh) both need to get to the point, be objective, and drop a vote. period. the rates were more accurate than the comments entailed though, so there's merit in that. keep building though.

Vote - Path gets my vote but not by much

**NOBLE** · #27 08-09-2012, 02:38 PM

Thanks for the breakdown @RhetoriK! I'll update the scorecard.

**NOBLE** · 08-09-2012, 02:38 PM

Thanks for the breakdown @RhetoriK! I'll update the scorecard.

**NOBLE** · #28 08-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Current Standings...
Ill Phenom (8 pts) +1
Student (8 pts) +1
TalkSick (8 pts)
Path (7 pts) +1
ILLoKWENT™ (6 pts) +1
BP Pride (6 pts)
Dissizit™ (6 pts)
Erupt (6 pts) +2
Fiji Osa (5 pts) +1
Phenomonon (4 pts) +2
@Path You've now reached the 7 point threshold, so you can hit me up and let me know which emcee items you'd like.

**NOBLE** · 08-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Current Standings...
Ill Phenom (8 pts) +1
Student (8 pts) +1
TalkSick (8 pts)
Path (7 pts) +1
ILLoKWENT™ (6 pts) +1
BP Pride (6 pts)
Dissizit™ (6 pts)
Erupt (6 pts) +2
Fiji Osa (5 pts) +1
Phenomonon (4 pts) +2
@Path You've now reached the 7 point threshold, so you can hit me up and let me know which emcee items you'd like.