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Basically??? Do you belive the damn thing or not??

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

All, but you know...that doesn't mean all. Because, you know, you belive the book without actually beliving what it says. c'mon man.
yes he gave us exsamples , promises and reason for living , but i cant rely on words that I KNOW have been tampered with i think he has given us proof of him and what his purpose is !

yes we do have free will obviously .. he isent controling you is he ?

no he made us more complex so you have a choice too apriciate what hes offering he also sais in the bible hes made us from dust and can resore us and that death is us sleeping!
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Basically??? Do you belive the damn thing or not??

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

All, but you know...that doesn't mean all. Because, you know, you belive the book without actually beliving what it says. c'mon man.
yes he gave us exsamples , promises and reason for living , but i cant rely on words that I KNOW have been tampered with i think he has given us proof of him and what his purpose is !

yes we do have free will obviously .. he isent controling you is he ?

no he made us more complex so you have a choice too apriciate what hes offering he also sais in the bible hes made us from dust and can resore us and that death is us sleeping!
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so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
predict ? you make it sound like hes making gamble ? but what does god have in his corner and wants us too posses and gives us the chance and free will too accept willingly
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so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
predict ? you make it sound like hes making gamble ? but what does god have in his corner and wants us too posses and gives us the chance and free will too accept willingly
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in the end he will bring everything too just accuratly with an able judgment
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in the end he will bring everything too just accuratly with an able judgment
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No im not refering to books or religions i hate Every thing that has the slightest human input put into it !

i beleive that we are so amazing individually that we exsist right now for us too exsist for ever , and we dont even know were we live or can comprehend how big this place we exsist in is . were like early day people thinking this earth is flat and welle sail of an edge lol

+ science did you know even the person who wrote science as we know it and some people beleive the person who come up with its theries does not even beleive it he said its all he is able too come up with ?

and that science doesent know why we age ? and we use .001 % of our brains and that our body remarkably REBUILDS itself ??

we arent made too die and have unique personalities ?? go look @ a leaf and a tree i live in the world not in a religion bro

Dude, you have your science wrong.

http://www.utne.com/Science-Technolo...We-Should.aspx

We understand why we age.

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

we use almost all of our brains.

We understand how we rebuild ourselves. We can grow our organs and shit in labs. we've created a synthetic cell

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...etic-cell.html

I belive in thinking.
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No im not refering to books or religions i hate Every thing that has the slightest human input put into it !

i beleive that we are so amazing individually that we exsist right now for us too exsist for ever , and we dont even know were we live or can comprehend how big this place we exsist in is . were like early day people thinking this earth is flat and welle sail of an edge lol

+ science did you know even the person who wrote science as we know it and some people beleive the person who come up with its theries does not even beleive it he said its all he is able too come up with ?

and that science doesent know why we age ? and we use .001 % of our brains and that our body remarkably REBUILDS itself ??

we arent made too die and have unique personalities ?? go look @ a leaf and a tree i live in the world not in a religion bro

Dude, you have your science wrong.

http://www.utne.com/Science-Technolo...We-Should.aspx

We understand why we age.

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

we use almost all of our brains.

We understand how we rebuild ourselves. We can grow our organs and shit in labs. we've created a synthetic cell

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...etic-cell.html

I belive in thinking.
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predict ? you make it sound like hes making gamble ? but what does god have in his corner and wants us too posses and gives us the chance and free will too accept willingly
but if god knows everything, won't he know what we will choose to do?
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My faiths in the scale & my god is profit .. I believe in swisher-sweets purchased & recite coughin chronic so i keep syrup they'ont be servin on a waffle ... mines is deep purple, three slurps-n im a walkin zombie! Now the fam is all up on me .. they say I dont need the cup if i keep it up its Kamakaze .. my usual answer is to leave the ice alone cuz i prefer jolly ranchers in my styrofoam so it dont water-log it.
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I'm pretty sure every educated man can see right through religion. It's all open to interpretation, some take it's teachings waaaay too literal. The bible teaches good morals.. that's it, good morals.

Me, I stay waaaay clear of it all. I live life for me, everyone and everything else is all for me to pick and choose. I honestly don't give a fuck about you or anyone. When I help someone out, it's for me; Personal satisfaction. I can learn anything I want, when I want, in whatever timeframe I want. I'd rather smoke a blunt than eat my 5 a day, I'd rather knock a nigga out in the ring than fight in a bullshit war, I'd rather jam on guitar than sing hymns in the church and I'd sure as hell rather fuck my shorty than be celibate. lol you feel me?

Religion is a control system and it works very well. It's main target audience is idiots with moronic tendencies such as: not thinking for yourself, following orders, not living for now and instead living for the afterlife.


I think if religion makes you happy and satisfies you, then do it. My personal opinion is fuck it hahaha

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I'm pretty sure every educated man can see right through religion. It's all open to interpretation, some take it's teachings waaaay too literal. The bible teaches good morals.. that's it, good morals.

Me, I stay waaaay clear of it all. I live life for me, everyone and everything else is all for me to pick and choose. I honestly don't give a fuck about you or anyone. When I help someone out, it's for me; Personal satisfaction. I can learn anything I want, when I want, in whatever timeframe I want. I'd rather smoke a blunt than eat my 5 a day, I'd rather knock a nigga out in the ring than fight in a bullshit war, I'd rather jam on guitar than sing hymns in the church and I'd sure as hell rather fuck my shorty than be celibate. lol you feel me?

Religion is a control system and it works very well. It's main target audience is idiots with moronic tendencies such as: not thinking for yourself, following orders, not living for now and instead living for the afterlife.


I think if religion makes you happy and satisfies you, then do it. My personal opinion is fuck it hahaha

that's my 2 cents.
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i am spiritual, not religious. i believe that organized religion is used by those IN power to remain powerful OVER others and control them. i believe in the power of the self and the power of conscious evolution. i believe that most all 'religious' texts have fragments of truth scattered throughout which have been utilized by those IN power (those who control the texts and 'teachings', all organized religion is hierarchical) to tempt and tether those who feel and believe that they are withOUT power. i'm catching myself starting to rant, so i'm just gonna say that i'm a spiritual being in a physical body working to get rid of the layers of shit that obscure and diminish the light within i and i.
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i am spiritual, not religious. i believe that organized religion is used by those IN power to remain powerful OVER others and control them. i believe in the power of the self and the power of conscious evolution. i believe that most all 'religious' texts have fragments of truth scattered throughout which have been utilized by those IN power (those who control the texts and 'teachings', all organized religion is hierarchical) to tempt and tether those who feel and believe that they are withOUT power. i'm catching myself starting to rant, so i'm just gonna say that i'm a spiritual being in a physical body working to get rid of the layers of shit that obscure and diminish the light within i and i.
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He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
If that's true then free will is a myth.
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Originally Posted by Carlos Brigante View Post
He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
If that's true then free will is a myth.
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