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I think there is some kind of higher power up there, I'm just not sure if it's what people think it is. I just don't know how a "merciful and loving God" could let thousands of people die every day..It just doesnt sit right with me.
he doesnt let them die, its more "their time"....everyone has a stopwatch if you will, its just some peoples run out faster than others - that has nothing to do with God, but has everything to do with fate

and its thru God that the miracle of life is able to counter the amount of people that die each day

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I think there is some kind of higher power up there, I'm just not sure if it's what people think it is. I just don't know how a "merciful and loving God" could let thousands of people die every day..It just doesnt sit right with me.
he doesnt let them die, its more "their time"....everyone has a stopwatch if you will, its just some peoples run out faster than others - that has nothing to do with God, but has everything to do with fate

and its thru God that the miracle of life is able to counter the amount of people that die each day

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he doesnt let them die, its more "their time"....everyone has a stopwatch if you will, its just some peoples run out faster than others - that has nothing to do with God, but has everything to do with fate

and its thru God that the miracle of life is able to counter the amount of people that die each day

Death isn't of god??

So hes not all powerful? Isn't that like, part of the definition?
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he doesnt let them die, its more "their time"....everyone has a stopwatch if you will, its just some peoples run out faster than others - that has nothing to do with God, but has everything to do with fate

and its thru God that the miracle of life is able to counter the amount of people that die each day

Death isn't of god??

So hes not all powerful? Isn't that like, part of the definition?
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Seems like me an' you bout had enough,
Cause man, it's tough to keep the fam in touch,
And to add it up, this rappin stuff got me flippin out like a blackjack bust

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Death isn't of god??

So hes not all powerful? Isn't that like, part of the definition?
He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
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Death isn't of god??

So hes not all powerful? Isn't that like, part of the definition?
He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
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He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
i'm not quite sure what you mean here.

So god just winds the clock and you die on a certain day? amirite?

Or are you suggesting god is a fatalist?
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Seems like me an' you bout had enough,
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And to add it up, this rappin stuff got me flippin out like a blackjack bust

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He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
i'm not quite sure what you mean here.

So god just winds the clock and you die on a certain day? amirite?

Or are you suggesting god is a fatalist?
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i'm not quite sure what you mean here.

So god just winds the clock and you die on a certain day? amirite?

Or are you suggesting god is a fatalist?

in a way ! but we might not be able too explain in words 100% ? perfectly how god works but . he made everything and keeps it working perfectly for you to make your mind up about him lol and yeah he knows but lets us control us just because someone or thing is smart enough to predict and read something hes created down too organisms and things we cant even see lol 'we' must liosten and Want too learn why and what he is doing !
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i'm not quite sure what you mean here.

So god just winds the clock and you die on a certain day? amirite?

Or are you suggesting god is a fatalist?

in a way ! but we might not be able too explain in words 100% ? perfectly how god works but . he made everything and keeps it working perfectly for you to make your mind up about him lol and yeah he knows but lets us control us just because someone or thing is smart enough to predict and read something hes created down too organisms and things we cant even see lol 'we' must liosten and Want too learn why and what he is doing !
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in a way ! but we might not be able too explain in words 100% ? perfectly how god works but . he made everything and keeps it working perfectly for you to make your mind up about him lol and yeah he knows but lets us control us just because someone or thing is smart enough to predict and read something hes created down too organisms and things we cant even see lol 'we' must liosten and Want too learn why and what he is doing !
so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
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in a way ! but we might not be able too explain in words 100% ? perfectly how god works but . he made everything and keeps it working perfectly for you to make your mind up about him lol and yeah he knows but lets us control us just because someone or thing is smart enough to predict and read something hes created down too organisms and things we cant even see lol 'we' must liosten and Want too learn why and what he is doing !
so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
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so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
predict ? you make it sound like hes making gamble ? but what does god have in his corner and wants us too posses and gives us the chance and free will too accept willingly
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so do we have free will or not?

and isn't one of the basic tenents of just being "god" omniscience?

So, he doesn't really know everything, he just kind of predicts it right?
predict ? you make it sound like hes making gamble ? but what does god have in his corner and wants us too posses and gives us the chance and free will too accept willingly
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He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
If that's true then free will is a myth.
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He means that its not like God woke up and said ok today this person that person and that person are going to die... Its pre-written when you are born you life stop watch is wound and already has an expiration date on it...

So is God responsible yes but is it deiberate to each particular day not entirely for its deliberate per individual...
If that's true then free will is a myth.
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are you joking?

soooo free will = choosing when you live/die?? (suicides aside of course)


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soooo free will = choosing when you live/die?? (suicides aside of course)


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Death isn't of god??

So hes not all powerful? Isn't that like, part of the definition?
depends how you see death i guess and wether you beleive in eternal life in this galaxy where sutable and enjoyable surroundings and settings exsist for us ?
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