Tyler the Creator is the best.......

[Nigga I Rap Tight]

I'd add in Hopsin and Joyner Lucas.

[Nigga I Rap Tight]

I'd add in Hopsin and Joyner Lucas.

[Denton]

Originally Posted by Erupt

Lol yeah Tyler does a lot of weird shit but it's interesting to me the nigga legit gives no fucks

Mac was another dope artist who was on auto pilot , he had a very artistic style he attributed a lot to The Beatles oddly enough.

Asap Rocky is artistic but not to the level of Tyler imo but he up there, Torey is nice lyrically but is he as good of a Artist as the others like Artistically... I did see a couple new videos on his new album that were artistic but how much did he play in the directing you know?

I'm curious as to what y'all think as artistic... And who is the best ARTIST not just rapper or lyricist

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Lol you ever been?

I have, a bunch of scrawny kids wearing sperrys and raybans trying to throw hands during a house music set.

No thanks.

[Denton]

Originally Posted by Erupt

Lol yeah Tyler does a lot of weird shit but it's interesting to me the nigga legit gives no fucks

Mac was another dope artist who was on auto pilot , he had a very artistic style he attributed a lot to The Beatles oddly enough.

Asap Rocky is artistic but not to the level of Tyler imo but he up there, Torey is nice lyrically but is he as good of a Artist as the others like Artistically... I did see a couple new videos on his new album that were artistic but how much did he play in the directing you know?

I'm curious as to what y'all think as artistic... And who is the best ARTIST not just rapper or lyricist

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Lol you ever been?

I have, a bunch of scrawny kids wearing sperrys and raybans trying to throw hands during a house music set.

No thanks.

[EtH]

Tbh I don't think there's lots of art in rap. Sometimes people come out with a really good angle on what they're talking about which pulls it towards storytelling or poetry but it's very very rare. Some guys can add a bit of signing in the mix which I'd say has more art rapping is usually "say those words in this allotted time" but signing is harder to decide how you're actually doing it. So most of it probably comes into the music production, video directing, live show production etc. to me.

[EtH]

Tbh I don't think there's lots of art in rap. Sometimes people come out with a really good angle on what they're talking about which pulls it towards storytelling or poetry but it's very very rare. Some guys can add a bit of signing in the mix which I'd say has more art rapping is usually "say those words in this allotted time" but signing is harder to decide how you're actually doing it. So most of it probably comes into the music production, video directing, live show production etc. to me.

[Erupt da Monsta]

@NirT... Hopsin actually isn't a bad addition to that list, I saw him live once, him and the whole crew before they "disbanded". Joyner is dope too, I feel like he still gonna take it another level artistically haven't reached his peek yet.
@Denton ... Ive seen some kids in spearys that could actually throw hands though my g haha
I was gonna go to the next one, but after seeing Da Baby get "cancelled" Idk how I feel about the event that's why I asked.
@EtH ... Thats actually a good take, and more so what I was referring to by saying Artist. Not so much the music... Although the ones I listed are great musically.... and def is a big chunk of what im referring to, but more so the directing , the videos, the production, and live production... All of which including the instrumentals and video production Tyler does all of that mostly himself ...

Im really trying to find the true art in music these days... I listen to all genres really... Someone link me to some actual art.... Rock, Rap, doesn't matter... Newer or Older shit but id prefer newer

[Erupt da Monsta]

@NirT... Hopsin actually isn't a bad addition to that list, I saw him live once, him and the whole crew before they "disbanded". Joyner is dope too, I feel like he still gonna take it another level artistically haven't reached his peek yet.
@Denton ... Ive seen some kids in spearys that could actually throw hands though my g haha
I was gonna go to the next one, but after seeing Da Baby get "cancelled" Idk how I feel about the event that's why I asked.
@EtH ... Thats actually a good take, and more so what I was referring to by saying Artist. Not so much the music... Although the ones I listed are great musically.... and def is a big chunk of what im referring to, but more so the directing , the videos, the production, and live production... All of which including the instrumentals and video production Tyler does all of that mostly himself ...

Im really trying to find the true art in music these days... I listen to all genres really... Someone link me to some actual art.... Rock, Rap, doesn't matter... Newer or Older shit but id prefer newer

[EtH]

It's hard to bring proper art into the rapping side of things itself, but I'd say storytelling is probably where most of it comes through. It's not like poetry because it's not inherently written with a tone. The tone is produced through the delivery and the music. But things like imagery and storytelling are definitely possible but how many rappers actually look at things like that? It kind of kills me listening to music sometimes where I'm like "So man, what's the point of this song? Like if you imagine pitching this song to a director or something, what's the topic here? What's the point? Oh, just the tales of the streets....AGAIN....any tale in specific? Oh just general shit that you've seen in your life arranged in no specific order or story....fantastic".

[EtH]

It's hard to bring proper art into the rapping side of things itself, but I'd say storytelling is probably where most of it comes through. It's not like poetry because it's not inherently written with a tone. The tone is produced through the delivery and the music. But things like imagery and storytelling are definitely possible but how many rappers actually look at things like that? It kind of kills me listening to music sometimes where I'm like "So man, what's the point of this song? Like if you imagine pitching this song to a director or something, what's the topic here? What's the point? Oh, just the tales of the streets....AGAIN....any tale in specific? Oh just general shit that you've seen in your life arranged in no specific order or story....fantastic".

[Student]

Saw him, Snoop, Big Sean, Jhene Aiko, Atmosphere, YG, A$AP Rocky & Living Legends @ Camp Flag Gnaw in 2015, he was really good along with everyone else. Fucking creative & genius business-wise for putting his own festival together too and his whole Odd Future gang, TV show, etc.

[Student]

Saw him, Snoop, Big Sean, Jhene Aiko, Atmosphere, YG, A$AP Rocky & Living Legends @ Camp Flag Gnaw in 2015, he was really good along with everyone else. Fucking creative & genius business-wise for putting his own festival together too and his whole Odd Future gang, TV show, etc.

[Erupt da Monsta]

Originally Posted by EtH

It's hard to bring proper art into the rapping side of things itself, but I'd say storytelling is probably where most of it comes through. It's not like poetry because it's not inherently written with a tone. The tone is produced through the delivery and the music. But things like imagery and storytelling are definitely possible but how many rappers actually look at things like that? It kind of kills me listening to music sometimes where I'm like "So man, what's the point of this song? Like if you imagine pitching this song to a director or something, what's the topic here? What's the point? Oh, just the tales of the streets....AGAIN....any tale in specific? Oh just general shit that you've seen in your life arranged in no specific order or story....fantastic".

@EtH .. Man... There are so many gems in that one statement you just made. Like real life gems. The whole part about crafting a song with a storyline in a specific order that you'd pitch to a director... Straight gem. I'll be applying that to my next song/EP.


@Student ... Yeah the guy literally makes his own concerts too... He's actually a creative genius and doesn't get enough credit. He did win a grammy recently but still... I think people are just now starting to appreciate his genius.

[Erupt da Monsta]

Originally Posted by EtH

It's hard to bring proper art into the rapping side of things itself, but I'd say storytelling is probably where most of it comes through. It's not like poetry because it's not inherently written with a tone. The tone is produced through the delivery and the music. But things like imagery and storytelling are definitely possible but how many rappers actually look at things like that? It kind of kills me listening to music sometimes where I'm like "So man, what's the point of this song? Like if you imagine pitching this song to a director or something, what's the topic here? What's the point? Oh, just the tales of the streets....AGAIN....any tale in specific? Oh just general shit that you've seen in your life arranged in no specific order or story....fantastic".

@EtH .. Man... There are so many gems in that one statement you just made. Like real life gems. The whole part about crafting a song with a storyline in a specific order that you'd pitch to a director... Straight gem. I'll be applying that to my next song/EP.


@Student ... Yeah the guy literally makes his own concerts too... He's actually a creative genius and doesn't get enough credit. He did win a grammy recently but still... I think people are just now starting to appreciate his genius.

[Nigga I Rap Tight]

I'd add Wyclef as well, not really for his work on the score, but more so his Carnival album.

[Nigga I Rap Tight]

I'd add Wyclef as well, not really for his work on the score, but more so his Carnival album.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Erupt

Asap Rocky is artistic but not to the level of Tyler imo but he up there, Torey is nice lyrically but is he as good of a Artist as the others like Artistically... I did see a couple new videos on his new album that were artistic but how much did he play in the directing you know?

I'm curious as to what y'all think as artistic... And who is the best ARTIST not just rapper or lyricist

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Lol you ever been?

ASAP Rocky was a fashion icon & influenced a lot of kids as far as street fashion for a while..I factor that in too when I talk artistry..but he's dead nice with comin up w/ different melodies, cadences, etc etc. He plays around with different BPMs and pockets, that's what that Testing album was about, he's probably tryna take his sound in a new direction away from that Three 6 Mafia influence

He caught the mean vibe in this video with FKA Twigs just fuckin around in the studio...the context here is he was talkin to Lil Yachty about how to find a pocket & go in on a beat then in the middle of the conversation the engineer plays this beat and he goes off on it, u even hear Lil Yachty amazed goin "oh my God" lol



As far as Tory Lanez he can sound like anyone he wants to...he's like Mystique from Xmen or Ditto from Pokemon lol..he has a very clear understanding of certain elements of music that most people wont ever grasp

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Erupt

Asap Rocky is artistic but not to the level of Tyler imo but he up there, Torey is nice lyrically but is he as good of a Artist as the others like Artistically... I did see a couple new videos on his new album that were artistic but how much did he play in the directing you know?

I'm curious as to what y'all think as artistic... And who is the best ARTIST not just rapper or lyricist

---------- Post added at 02:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:27 PM ----------



Lol you ever been?

ASAP Rocky was a fashion icon & influenced a lot of kids as far as street fashion for a while..I factor that in too when I talk artistry..but he's dead nice with comin up w/ different melodies, cadences, etc etc. He plays around with different BPMs and pockets, that's what that Testing album was about, he's probably tryna take his sound in a new direction away from that Three 6 Mafia influence

He caught the mean vibe in this video with FKA Twigs just fuckin around in the studio...the context here is he was talkin to Lil Yachty about how to find a pocket & go in on a beat then in the middle of the conversation the engineer plays this beat and he goes off on it, u even hear Lil Yachty amazed goin "oh my God" lol



As far as Tory Lanez he can sound like anyone he wants to...he's like Mystique from Xmen or Ditto from Pokemon lol..he has a very clear understanding of certain elements of music that most people wont ever grasp

[Rowdy]

[Rowdy]