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Unread 03-10-2020, 06:27 PM
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When I initially proposed the concept tournament, I had the idea of it being a sort of topic. As opposed to a type of battle(this is why I initially posited it as a theme battle.)

So, for example, a concept I'd have used when running the tournament would be "Potato chip brands." General topics, as opposed to things like "horrocore battle," etc.


The premise was modeled after 100 Barz's UFC themed battle.
Although I think the majority of battles in a concept tourney should be following the kind of concepts you’re talking about, it’s beneficial to have the other forms not centred around a specific tangible thing as well. Partly because these are often some of the most interesting battles, partly because they add variety and challenge, and partly because the concept tourney is one of the few places these forms of battle take prominence. The problem with exclusively using topics like “potato chip brands”, “TV shows” or even stuff like “board games” or “kids toys” is that there’s often a great deal of variation between countries, which realistically means that for users outside of the USA or sometimes UK, these battles often don’t make much sense because we don’t recognise the brands and names and stuff they’re based around. Something like a compliment battle, horrorcore, self-disses or whatever is to a much greater extent universally accessible to all battlers and voters.
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When I initially proposed the concept tournament, I had the idea of it being a sort of topic. As opposed to a type of battle(this is why I initially posited it as a theme battle.)

So, for example, a concept I'd have used when running the tournament would be "Potato chip brands." General topics, as opposed to things like "horrocore battle," etc.


The premise was modeled after 100 Barz's UFC themed battle.
Although I think the majority of battles in a concept tourney should be following the kind of concepts you’re talking about, it’s beneficial to have the other forms not centred around a specific tangible thing as well. Partly because these are often some of the most interesting battles, partly because they add variety and challenge, and partly because the concept tourney is one of the few places these forms of battle take prominence. The problem with exclusively using topics like “potato chip brands”, “TV shows” or even stuff like “board games” or “kids toys” is that there’s often a great deal of variation between countries, which realistically means that for users outside of the USA or sometimes UK, these battles often don’t make much sense because we don’t recognise the brands and names and stuff they’re based around. Something like a compliment battle, horrorcore, self-disses or whatever is to a much greater extent universally accessible to all battlers and voters.
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Unread 03-10-2020, 08:34 PM
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Although I think the majority of battles in a concept tourney should be following the kind of concepts you’re talking about, it’s beneficial to have the other forms not centred around a specific tangible thing as well. Partly because these are often some of the most interesting battles, partly because they add variety and challenge, and partly because the concept tourney is one of the few places these forms of battle take prominence. The problem with exclusively using topics like “potato chip brands”, “TV shows” or even stuff like “board games” or “kids toys” is that there’s often a great deal of variation between countries, which realistically means that for users outside of the USA or sometimes UK, these battles often don’t make much sense because we don’t recognise the brands and names and stuff they’re based around. Something like a compliment battle, horrorcore, self-disses or whatever is to a much greater extent universally accessible to all battlers and voters.
I agree with this in part, but some of the types of battles you're listing, I wouldn't consider to be concept battles. But, rather parodies or parody battles.
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Although I think the majority of battles in a concept tourney should be following the kind of concepts you’re talking about, it’s beneficial to have the other forms not centred around a specific tangible thing as well. Partly because these are often some of the most interesting battles, partly because they add variety and challenge, and partly because the concept tourney is one of the few places these forms of battle take prominence. The problem with exclusively using topics like “potato chip brands”, “TV shows” or even stuff like “board games” or “kids toys” is that there’s often a great deal of variation between countries, which realistically means that for users outside of the USA or sometimes UK, these battles often don’t make much sense because we don’t recognise the brands and names and stuff they’re based around. Something like a compliment battle, horrorcore, self-disses or whatever is to a much greater extent universally accessible to all battlers and voters.
I agree with this in part, but some of the types of battles you're listing, I wouldn't consider to be concept battles. But, rather parodies or parody battles.
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I agree with this in part, but some of the types of battles you're listing, I wouldn't consider to be concept battles. But, rather parodies or parody battles.
I think that’s a fair point, but more generally I think the word “concept” has morphed to mean any stipulation that affects the ideas behind bars within a battle (whereas a “scheme” is a stipulation that affects their rhyming). That being said I do think there are some “concepts” that have been used that blur the line somewhat with topical battles.
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I agree with this in part, but some of the types of battles you're listing, I wouldn't consider to be concept battles. But, rather parodies or parody battles.
I think that’s a fair point, but more generally I think the word “concept” has morphed to mean any stipulation that affects the ideas behind bars within a battle (whereas a “scheme” is a stipulation that affects their rhyming). That being said I do think there are some “concepts” that have been used that blur the line somewhat with topical battles.
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