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But then I saw how many bars the general public here found hot that were about shit like Pokémon, DBZ, Harry Potter, etc
Word. Bunch of fucking weirdos if ya ask me... these would be the type of lads who'd get the shit kicked out of them regularly.


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For me I only vote on text but I prioritise content over multis and flow. My order of preference from best to worst is:

1. Direct, relevant bars - Most people here clearly don't write for their opponent so when people do it always sticks out. Name flips are fine too. Sometimes basic, sometimes great, but at least they're direct.
2. Double meaning wordplay - Most people here do single meaning similes and sometimes that's 75%+ of their verse so its boring and not creative. Double meanings are difficult to write but hit harder than anything. A bar that works both ways and attacks your opponent specifically is as perfect as you can get.
3. Original concepts/schemes/wordplay - Again, its so nice to read a verse that isnt just Mcgregor, Trump, Marvel bars the whole way through.
4. Similes - They come into play only after all that stuff, and I'm looking for ones that are creative, complex etc. I'm bored of people using nothing but similes that could apply to anyone. Read a 16 line verse earlier today where 12 lines were single-meaning similes. Yawn.
5. General shit with no wordplay - So just a cypher basically. Its battle rap. Battle your opponent. You'll rarely win if you do this.

Then in terms of readability formatting matters a lot. I think 3-4 syllables is fine, the sweet spot is 4-6 and over 6 usually results in ugly reachy punches. I'd rather read a clean, sleek 4 syllable verse than a reachy 9 syllable verse. I see so many people use unnatural wording or overly long sentences and I always mark it down.

So my vote is an average of all that, with preference going towards those who write towards their opponent and try double meanings and original ideas.

I personally think for a text 'battle', its dumb to see so many voters not take into consideration if one person has clearly written for their opponent and one person has just chained random lines together. I also don't like that voters sometimes prefer simple one way punchlines to someone trying to actually break down and talk to their opponent. There's a lot I'd change.

Edit: And to address what y'all are asking. I read once, then once again as I start writing my vote. I always read expos and google stuff I don't catch. Even if the bar is trash at least you learn something new.

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But then I saw how many bars the general public here found hot that were about shit like Pokémon, DBZ, Harry Potter, etc
Word. Bunch of fucking weirdos if ya ask me... these would be the type of lads who'd get the shit kicked out of them regularly.


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For me I only vote on text but I prioritise content over multis and flow. My order of preference from best to worst is:

1. Direct, relevant bars - Most people here clearly don't write for their opponent so when people do it always sticks out. Name flips are fine too. Sometimes basic, sometimes great, but at least they're direct.
2. Double meaning wordplay - Most people here do single meaning similes and sometimes that's 75%+ of their verse so its boring and not creative. Double meanings are difficult to write but hit harder than anything. A bar that works both ways and attacks your opponent specifically is as perfect as you can get.
3. Original concepts/schemes/wordplay - Again, its so nice to read a verse that isnt just Mcgregor, Trump, Marvel bars the whole way through.
4. Similes - They come into play only after all that stuff, and I'm looking for ones that are creative, complex etc. I'm bored of people using nothing but similes that could apply to anyone. Read a 16 line verse earlier today where 12 lines were single-meaning similes. Yawn.
5. General shit with no wordplay - So just a cypher basically. Its battle rap. Battle your opponent. You'll rarely win if you do this.

Then in terms of readability formatting matters a lot. I think 3-4 syllables is fine, the sweet spot is 4-6 and over 6 usually results in ugly reachy punches. I'd rather read a clean, sleek 4 syllable verse than a reachy 9 syllable verse. I see so many people use unnatural wording or overly long sentences and I always mark it down.

So my vote is an average of all that, with preference going towards those who write towards their opponent and try double meanings and original ideas.

I personally think for a text 'battle', its dumb to see so many voters not take into consideration if one person has clearly written for their opponent and one person has just chained random lines together. I also don't like that voters sometimes prefer simple one way punchlines to someone trying to actually break down and talk to their opponent. There's a lot I'd change.

Edit: And to address what y'all are asking. I read once, then once again as I start writing my vote. I always read expos and google stuff I don't catch. Even if the bar is trash at least you learn something new.

This is the best answer to this question i have ever seen.
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Word. Bunch of fucking weirdos if ya ask me... these would be the type of lads who'd get the shit kicked out of them regularly.




Lmfao @ this. That's rich.
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Word. Bunch of fucking weirdos if ya ask me... these would be the type of lads who'd get the shit kicked out of them regularly.




Lmfao @ this. That's rich.
 
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Unread 02-12-2020, 08:10 AM
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Lmfao @ this. That's rich.
It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
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Lmfao @ this. That's rich.
It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
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It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
Because bars about rollerskating on Legos and jacking off Jesus are soooo much better. Save it, bro.
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It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
Because bars about rollerskating on Legos and jacking off Jesus are soooo much better. Save it, bro.
 
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It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
What?! Oh you must have a masters degree in foolishness bruh.
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It's facts, kid. All that Pokemon, DBZ shit ya'll be on is lame as fuck. Always has been and always will be.
What?! Oh you must have a masters degree in foolishness bruh.
 
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Unread 02-12-2020, 11:05 AM
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Because bars about rollerskating on Legos and jacking off Jesus are soooo much better. Save it, bro.
Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.

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What?! Oh you must have a masters degree in foolishness bruh.
Lol... Nah, all that shit is corny, childish and lame. Some nerdy-geek type shit.
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Because bars about rollerskating on Legos and jacking off Jesus are soooo much better. Save it, bro.
Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.

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What?! Oh you must have a masters degree in foolishness bruh.
Lol... Nah, all that shit is corny, childish and lame. Some nerdy-geek type shit.
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Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.


It says more about you to think that weird ass shit is even remotely dope at all. No one in their right mind thinks a hypothetical bar about jacking off Jesus is good regardless of what your religion is.

Of course, I get the typical response back regarding this subject, but it's whatever, though. I'd rather write 1000 lines about DBZ or Pokemon than one about jacking off Jesus or rolleskating on Legos.
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Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.


It says more about you to think that weird ass shit is even remotely dope at all. No one in their right mind thinks a hypothetical bar about jacking off Jesus is good regardless of what your religion is.

Of course, I get the typical response back regarding this subject, but it's whatever, though. I'd rather write 1000 lines about DBZ or Pokemon than one about jacking off Jesus or rolleskating on Legos.
 
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Unread 02-12-2020, 11:17 AM
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It says more about you to think that weird ass shit is even remotely dope at all. No one in their right mind thinks a hypothetical bar about jacking off Jesus is good regardless of what your religion is.

Of course, I get the typical response back regarding this subject, but it's whatever, though. I'd rather write 1000 lines about DBZ or Pokemon than one about jacking off Jesus or rolleskating on Legos.
All of your bars are like your God... hypothetical. Recorded in your car away from your fams eyes in case they catch a glimpse of their son waving his imaginary glocks around while speaking as if he was possessed by Satan himself. lol
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It says more about you to think that weird ass shit is even remotely dope at all. No one in their right mind thinks a hypothetical bar about jacking off Jesus is good regardless of what your religion is.

Of course, I get the typical response back regarding this subject, but it's whatever, though. I'd rather write 1000 lines about DBZ or Pokemon than one about jacking off Jesus or rolleskating on Legos.
All of your bars are like your God... hypothetical. Recorded in your car away from your fams eyes in case they catch a glimpse of their son waving his imaginary glocks around while speaking as if he was possessed by Satan himself. lol
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Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.



Lol... Nah, all that shit is corny, childish and lame. Some nerdy-geek type shit.
Half of the Wu Tang lyrics are about comic books.
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Bars about your fictional deity taking to heart, i see.

Grow up, bro.
DBZ, Pokemon and the rest of that shit is childish shit... oh wait, you're into childish shit being of the christian/catholic faith an all.



Lol... Nah, all that shit is corny, childish and lame. Some nerdy-geek type shit.
Half of the Wu Tang lyrics are about comic books.
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