What are your feelings on Abortion?

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Now I don't think you understand depression either. Seeing as depression can be a mood disorder (in the form of major depressive disorder, manic depression etc.) and has been clinically proven and published within the DSM IV as a mental disorder with biological statistics (low production of serotonin and dopamine, depression of the central nervous system, hormone dysfunction).

You're doing nothing but judge without any real weight behind your overall rebuke. You just simply believe that pregnancy can't physically affect a woman for the rest of her life (which in a lot of cases occurs) and that depression is nothing more than a transient mood-swing? Shit man, you need to read more.



And I never said a father has no right to the birth of a child. I said that the individuals involved in the pregnancy "situation" usually discuss and rationalise, but I still don't think a male has the right to tell a woman to either go through with the childbirth or have the abortion. That's called shirking the physical rights of a human being.

Why do you keep flying off the handle about things I clearly stated?

This time I word for word said "I literally dont understand depression" and you wrote a paragraph to prove I understand it?

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Originally Posted by IV

I think it's very easy for men to comment on it either way. If a woman get's pregnant from a drunken mistake, yes that's her own fault but a baby shouldn't be seen as a punishment for a mistake. The man in that situation would never have to feel anything, he'd just go home and high five his friends that he got laid.

Okay, so the woman gets an abortion? Fuck that disgusting cunt is my reply to that. So she just never finds the guy and tells him she's pregnant with his baby? That's fucking ridiculous and she deserves anything bad that falls upon her.

Originally Posted by IV

I think our lives get restricted enough without people telling women that they have to have a child.

No one tells them they need to have unprotected sex.

Originally Posted by IV

And Dave I agree with your comment about the father rights too. If a girl aborts a child that the guy wants then that isn't fair at all. But as far as the physical thing, it's not just that, it's not 9 months of things being shit.. it's what the woman could have been doing in those 9 months to build her planned future, and the fact they're never going to be able to have the same life again, when 9 out of 10 times the man's life doesn't really change at all. He will still continue on his career path and MOST OF THE TIME (yes i understand there's exceptions to everything) it's the woman who gives her life up to raise a child.

To be honest, I just don't really understand "unexpected pregnancy". From a guy's perspective, you fuck a girl without a johnny on then you're completely shitting yourself until she tells you it's all clear (by yucky girl stiff methods). Sure you've got that ridiculously low percentage of condoms not working.

But all in all, adoption is still there. That's the main thing I'm pushing. This "the child's quality of life" stuff is the biggest cop out ever. Everyone on the planet is under this illusion that they had a hard upbringing. Some of them actually will be too, and it didn't stop them enjoying life and becoming what they wanted to. If you aren't ready, responsible enough, or just straight up don't want a child, then put it up for adoption. To claim that 9 months out of your life is the biggest set back of all time is ridiculous. A broken leg would keep you away from whatever it is you need to be at for more time. And that's not to mention that it's 9 months for YOUR mistake you know.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Now I don't think you understand depression either. Seeing as depression can be a mood disorder (in the form of major depressive disorder, manic depression etc.) and has been clinically proven and published within the DSM IV as a mental disorder with biological statistics (low production of serotonin and dopamine, depression of the central nervous system, hormone dysfunction).

You're doing nothing but judge without any real weight behind your overall rebuke. You just simply believe that pregnancy can't physically affect a woman for the rest of her life (which in a lot of cases occurs) and that depression is nothing more than a transient mood-swing? Shit man, you need to read more.



And I never said a father has no right to the birth of a child. I said that the individuals involved in the pregnancy "situation" usually discuss and rationalise, but I still don't think a male has the right to tell a woman to either go through with the childbirth or have the abortion. That's called shirking the physical rights of a human being.

Why do you keep flying off the handle about things I clearly stated?

This time I word for word said "I literally dont understand depression" and you wrote a paragraph to prove I understand it?

---------- Post added at 09:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:22 AM ----------

Originally Posted by IV

I think it's very easy for men to comment on it either way. If a woman get's pregnant from a drunken mistake, yes that's her own fault but a baby shouldn't be seen as a punishment for a mistake. The man in that situation would never have to feel anything, he'd just go home and high five his friends that he got laid.

Okay, so the woman gets an abortion? Fuck that disgusting cunt is my reply to that. So she just never finds the guy and tells him she's pregnant with his baby? That's fucking ridiculous and she deserves anything bad that falls upon her.

Originally Posted by IV

I think our lives get restricted enough without people telling women that they have to have a child.

No one tells them they need to have unprotected sex.

Originally Posted by IV

And Dave I agree with your comment about the father rights too. If a girl aborts a child that the guy wants then that isn't fair at all. But as far as the physical thing, it's not just that, it's not 9 months of things being shit.. it's what the woman could have been doing in those 9 months to build her planned future, and the fact they're never going to be able to have the same life again, when 9 out of 10 times the man's life doesn't really change at all. He will still continue on his career path and MOST OF THE TIME (yes i understand there's exceptions to everything) it's the woman who gives her life up to raise a child.

To be honest, I just don't really understand "unexpected pregnancy". From a guy's perspective, you fuck a girl without a johnny on then you're completely shitting yourself until she tells you it's all clear (by yucky girl stiff methods). Sure you've got that ridiculously low percentage of condoms not working.

But all in all, adoption is still there. That's the main thing I'm pushing. This "the child's quality of life" stuff is the biggest cop out ever. Everyone on the planet is under this illusion that they had a hard upbringing. Some of them actually will be too, and it didn't stop them enjoying life and becoming what they wanted to. If you aren't ready, responsible enough, or just straight up don't want a child, then put it up for adoption. To claim that 9 months out of your life is the biggest set back of all time is ridiculous. A broken leg would keep you away from whatever it is you need to be at for more time. And that's not to mention that it's 9 months for YOUR mistake you know.