What are your feelings on Abortion?

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

So if a girl is "stupid enough" to get raped and impregnated, she should have to go through the horrendously body-shattering process of childbirth and give away her child?

Before flying off the handle, read the "Only in cases where stupid enough is applicable". There's very few cases where the sentence "stupid enough to get raped works out.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

I don't think you understand pregnancy really, EtH. Everything that goes with it isn't "short term physical consequences", let alone physical; what about post-natal depression? My mum was dangerously low for five years and nearly took her own life.

I'm AGAINST depression. Depression is a state of quitting. Allowing yourself to wallow. I can absolutely guarantee you that I will never be depressed in my entire life. I literally don't understand it though so I try to avoid judgement.

But that aside, I don't think you understand what post-natal depression is. A lot of the time it's a detachment from your child, not the physical act of pregnancy. If someone straight up doesn't want their child, put it up for adoption, thats what my point is. The physical effects are VERY rarely long lasting.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

That's a tangent. I think abortion should be a choice made by the bearer of the pregnancy and the bearer alone. Fetuses/zygotes don't have a CNS or any sort of consciousness so if the retarded pro-lifers saw sense and pertained to scientific proof then the whole "crisis" would be a lot more obsolete.

So a father has absolutely no right in the birth of his child? I couldn't be more against that. The fact that 10 years ago judges ruled in custody cases of the mothers over the father based on some absolutely mythological idea that the word maternal overpowers paternal is utterly disgusting to me.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

And true, there is a distinct biological bias towards the female in terms of pregnancies. But the truth is, physically they are responsible. In no way does a man have any physical effects from the pregnancy, perhaps to an extent mentally and a certain amount of sentimentality attached to it. In most circumstances, the individuals involved rationalise the situation and make a decision: Barring that though, I feel that the female should be the one making the final decision as they are the prime bearers of all the physical and mental consequences that go along with an unwanted pregnancy.

The physical effects in 2014 aren't major. It's 9 months of things being fairly shit, but then it's over and done with. The instinctive and mental bond completely trashes the physical one.

If I want a child, and the girl that's pregnant aborts it without us ever coming to some sort of agreement (because it's her 'right'), that imo should be complete fair grounds to knock a bitch the fuck out.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

So if a girl is "stupid enough" to get raped and impregnated, she should have to go through the horrendously body-shattering process of childbirth and give away her child?

Before flying off the handle, read the "Only in cases where stupid enough is applicable". There's very few cases where the sentence "stupid enough to get raped works out.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

I don't think you understand pregnancy really, EtH. Everything that goes with it isn't "short term physical consequences", let alone physical; what about post-natal depression? My mum was dangerously low for five years and nearly took her own life.

I'm AGAINST depression. Depression is a state of quitting. Allowing yourself to wallow. I can absolutely guarantee you that I will never be depressed in my entire life. I literally don't understand it though so I try to avoid judgement.

But that aside, I don't think you understand what post-natal depression is. A lot of the time it's a detachment from your child, not the physical act of pregnancy. If someone straight up doesn't want their child, put it up for adoption, thats what my point is. The physical effects are VERY rarely long lasting.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

That's a tangent. I think abortion should be a choice made by the bearer of the pregnancy and the bearer alone. Fetuses/zygotes don't have a CNS or any sort of consciousness so if the retarded pro-lifers saw sense and pertained to scientific proof then the whole "crisis" would be a lot more obsolete.

So a father has absolutely no right in the birth of his child? I couldn't be more against that. The fact that 10 years ago judges ruled in custody cases of the mothers over the father based on some absolutely mythological idea that the word maternal overpowers paternal is utterly disgusting to me.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

And true, there is a distinct biological bias towards the female in terms of pregnancies. But the truth is, physically they are responsible. In no way does a man have any physical effects from the pregnancy, perhaps to an extent mentally and a certain amount of sentimentality attached to it. In most circumstances, the individuals involved rationalise the situation and make a decision: Barring that though, I feel that the female should be the one making the final decision as they are the prime bearers of all the physical and mental consequences that go along with an unwanted pregnancy.

The physical effects in 2014 aren't major. It's 9 months of things being fairly shit, but then it's over and done with. The instinctive and mental bond completely trashes the physical one.

If I want a child, and the girl that's pregnant aborts it without us ever coming to some sort of agreement (because it's her 'right'), that imo should be complete fair grounds to knock a bitch the fuck out.