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Who cares about V4? Why would Pugz waste money for like 60 of us? A new site isnt gonna create activity or make heavyweights.. A prettier site would be nice though..
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Who cares about V4? Why would Pugz waste money for like 60 of us? A new site isnt gonna create activity or make heavyweights.. A prettier site would be nice though..
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Money ISN'T an issue.
You take it 1 step at a time. You get ya house in order first. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. You're basically trying to run before you can walk.
LOL The site is a mess and you wanna aim for the stars. lol
keep it simple. I'm not saying it's a bad idea im just saying it's not a good idea for right now.
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Money ISN'T an issue.
You take it 1 step at a time. You get ya house in order first. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. You're basically trying to run before you can walk.
LOL The site is a mess and you wanna aim for the stars. lol
keep it simple. I'm not saying it's a bad idea im just saying it's not a good idea for right now.
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@ Apollyon A new site will definitely create new activity. not the act itself but...
Raising even more funds for someone that apparently doesn't need the funds is good too, because funds can be allocated to market the site correctly and pay for banners on niche sites like RapGenius or RapMusic to get targeted traffic
if that targeted traffic is real up to date/hip w/ the whole rap battling thing they'll be dismayed to come on Letsbeef and be like "ohh shit! I went on this site 5 years ago!! wait a minute...nothing changed"
& that's where the new site comes into play. "Oh shit, they added what? They did what? You can upload mixtapes now? You can do X and Y? I'm interested"
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@ Apollyon A new site will definitely create new activity. not the act itself but...
Raising even more funds for someone that apparently doesn't need the funds is good too, because funds can be allocated to market the site correctly and pay for banners on niche sites like RapGenius or RapMusic to get targeted traffic
if that targeted traffic is real up to date/hip w/ the whole rap battling thing they'll be dismayed to come on Letsbeef and be like "ohh shit! I went on this site 5 years ago!! wait a minute...nothing changed"
& that's where the new site comes into play. "Oh shit, they added what? They did what? You can upload mixtapes now? You can do X and Y? I'm interested"
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@ Apollyon A new site will definitely create new activity. not the act itself but...
Raising even more funds for someone that apparently doesn't need the funds is good too, because funds can be allocated to market the site correctly and pay for banners on niche sites like RapGenius or RapMusic to get targeted traffic
if that targeted traffic is real up to date/hip w/ the whole rap battling thing they'll be dismayed to come on Letsbeef and be like "ohh shit! I went on this site 5 years ago!! wait a minute...nothing changed"
& that's where the new site comes into play. "Oh shit, they added what? They did what? You can upload mixtapes now? You can do X and Y? I'm interested"
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I see..
@ Pugz if i give you $20 can i have a Michael Myers mask and jumpsuit for my emcee dude?
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@ Apollyon A new site will definitely create new activity. not the act itself but...
Raising even more funds for someone that apparently doesn't need the funds is good too, because funds can be allocated to market the site correctly and pay for banners on niche sites like RapGenius or RapMusic to get targeted traffic
if that targeted traffic is real up to date/hip w/ the whole rap battling thing they'll be dismayed to come on Letsbeef and be like "ohh shit! I went on this site 5 years ago!! wait a minute...nothing changed"
& that's where the new site comes into play. "Oh shit, they added what? They did what? You can upload mixtapes now? You can do X and Y? I'm interested"
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I see..
@ Pugz if i give you $20 can i have a Michael Myers mask and jumpsuit for my emcee dude?
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@ Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"
but then you say money isnt an issue
if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"
a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime
boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before
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@ Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"
but then you say money isnt an issue
if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"
a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime
boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before
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@ Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"
but then you say money isnt an issue
if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"
a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime
boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before
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Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.
I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.
Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.
They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.
Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.
What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?
Another big bang and a waive of a wand?
No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.
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@ Just C"fix everything we got and then aim higher"
but then you say money isnt an issue
if money wasn't an issue you could throw a couple thousand at a team of freelancers (some coders have teams of people that split the work) and tell em "fix everything we got and aim higher"
a few days, weeks, w/e amount of downtime
boom boom nigga...site is back, more functional than ever, and more features than before
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Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.
I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.
Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.
They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.
Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.
What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?
Another big bang and a waive of a wand?
No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.
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Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.
I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.
Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.
They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.
Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.
What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?
Another big bang and a waive of a wand?
No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.
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Let me combine Dave's view on the game analogy with your view on it
Adding a feature would be like adding DLC to a game that needs patching, right?
But people have to buy the game for there to be DLC. If people didn't buy the game, or its DLC, the game publisher (EA if we're using your FIFA analogy) wouldn't see a need to make more FIFA games because they have a sunk cost; in other words they spent money on creating a product and didn't get the return they expected
Money isn't the issue, EA has tons of money to add features in their yearly installments and to patch their games
But without the financial support or feedback from the community EA would discontinue FIFA
So think of V4 as the next FIFA game. People want the next FIFA game and we're letting @ Pugz(EA in this case) know that we want it by giving feedback on what he can do to improve the FIFA franchise and by giving financial support. Even though we now know money isn't an issue for Pugz and it wouldn't be an issue for EA either.
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Are you actually going to read and take in what I'm saying or am I just wasting my time.
I done told you that money isn;t an issue. That shit is getting fixed.
Focus is on THAT priority. YOU'VE complained about these issues.
They're being fixed. Your idea is down the pecking order.
Your idea doesn't just magically happen and generate income to FIX THE SITE. It needs income and time invested in the first place anyway. Money and time currently invested in fixing the site.
What do you think the easter bunny is just gonna magically make this a site feature?
Another big bang and a waive of a wand?
No. So it isn't even a solution to fixing the sites problems which are already being fixed. It just delays that which is already being addressed.
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Let me combine Dave's view on the game analogy with your view on it
Adding a feature would be like adding DLC to a game that needs patching, right?
But people have to buy the game for there to be DLC. If people didn't buy the game, or its DLC, the game publisher (EA if we're using your FIFA analogy) wouldn't see a need to make more FIFA games because they have a sunk cost; in other words they spent money on creating a product and didn't get the return they expected
Money isn't the issue, EA has tons of money to add features in their yearly installments and to patch their games
But without the financial support or feedback from the community EA would discontinue FIFA
So think of V4 as the next FIFA game. People want the next FIFA game and we're letting @ Pugz(EA in this case) know that we want it by giving feedback on what he can do to improve the FIFA franchise and by giving financial support. Even though we now know money isn't an issue for Pugz and it wouldn't be an issue for EA either.
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It's still not a good example. better, but not good Dave lol
Throw in releasing DLC for K&L 2 with no patch and you realise how silly that proposal is. At this stage of the game.
We don't even have enough active members for this to be a game changer hahahahaha
You do this sort of shit when other things are in place.
Like everything working as it should.
A new skin update along with a bunch of other.
More members.
This is pie in the sky right now lol
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It's still not a good example. better, but not good Dave lol
Throw in releasing DLC for K&L 2 with no patch and you realise how silly that proposal is. At this stage of the game.
We don't even have enough active members for this to be a game changer hahahahaha
You do this sort of shit when other things are in place.
Like everything working as it should.
A new skin update along with a bunch of other.
More members.
This is pie in the sky right now lol
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@ Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.
I doubt you're going to find anyone on the site, RULE excluded, who has done more than me. Tournament running, idea implimentation, PPVs format etc (I mean not including mod actions).
I've done pretty much everything, and it still makes fuck all of a difference. The members have done our bit. We've got the LBT, we've had the topical tournaments, we've ran track, text, audio and whatever the fuck else format tournaments. Nothing has changed.
Really, what the fuck are we expected to do at this point? We don't have the power or position to make a change on the site, or to bring more members here. We either make our little ideas, or accept that the guys in charge have been killing the site since 2007.
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@ Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.
I doubt you're going to find anyone on the site, RULE excluded, who has done more than me. Tournament running, idea implimentation, PPVs format etc (I mean not including mod actions).
I've done pretty much everything, and it still makes fuck all of a difference. The members have done our bit. We've got the LBT, we've had the topical tournaments, we've ran track, text, audio and whatever the fuck else format tournaments. Nothing has changed.
Really, what the fuck are we expected to do at this point? We don't have the power or position to make a change on the site, or to bring more members here. We either make our little ideas, or accept that the guys in charge have been killing the site since 2007.
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@ Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.
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Nothing. Keep making suggestions. I haven't downed them or outright dismissed them. They're cool ideas. Their just not for right now. lol
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@ Just C, what do you want us to do though? We need to make suggestions cause without them we have to accept how little we actually can do to stop this site from dying.
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Nothing. Keep making suggestions. I haven't downed them or outright dismissed them. They're cool ideas. Their just not for right now. lol
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