Should non-staff members be able to have 3+ VP?

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

[NOBLE]

There should be non-staff members with elevated vp because, obviously, it's not only staff members that are very good voters. However, there has to be a systematic way of deciding who gets elevated vp (Like an FVC or some other process) otherwise it becomes arbitrary, based on some particular mod's whim. One mod might think a certain member deserves elevated vp and raises it whereas another mod does not think that member can vote and lowers it. We've had issues like that before. There were still mods who thought certain people didn't belong in the FVC but having an FVC recruitment process made it less arbitrary so their vp was respected and left untouched as long as they were in FVC.

[NOBLE]

There should be non-staff members with elevated vp because, obviously, it's not only staff members that are very good voters. However, there has to be a systematic way of deciding who gets elevated vp (Like an FVC or some other process) otherwise it becomes arbitrary, based on some particular mod's whim. One mod might think a certain member deserves elevated vp and raises it whereas another mod does not think that member can vote and lowers it. We've had issues like that before. There were still mods who thought certain people didn't belong in the FVC but having an FVC recruitment process made it less arbitrary so their vp was respected and left untouched as long as they were in FVC.

[Wayco]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

I'm cosigning this. The point system r n is garbage. I'm sure a lot of battles have gone the wrong because of it. The site doesn't have enough activity to warrant more than 2vp anyways. I think a vp change should take at least 2 mods to do. If it's not the case already. Cuz vp changes could easily sway battles. Edit* I wouldn't be opposed to a 0, 1, 2 vp scale. But anything more than 2vp makes one vote to important cuz of the low activity.

[Wayco]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

I'm cosigning this. The point system r n is garbage. I'm sure a lot of battles have gone the wrong because of it. The site doesn't have enough activity to warrant more than 2vp anyways. I think a vp change should take at least 2 mods to do. If it's not the case already. Cuz vp changes could easily sway battles. Edit* I wouldn't be opposed to a 0, 1, 2 vp scale. But anything more than 2vp makes one vote to important cuz of the low activity.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

I'm cosigning this. The point system r n is garbage. I'm sure a lot of battles have gone the wrong because of it. The site doesn't have enough activity to warrant more than 2vp anyways. I think a vp change should take at least 2 mods to do. If it's not the case already. Cuz vp changes could easily sway battles. Edit* I wouldn't be opposed to a 0, 1, 2 vp scale. But anything more than 2vp makes one vote to important cuz of the low activity.

Right. I just don’t see why someone’s vote would count more than someone else’s. 2 fair voters club member votes verses 2 non fair voters club votes and a person still lose by double the amount of points. It makes nooo sense at all.

Originally Posted by Lyve SCIENCE

I'm cosigning this. The point system r n is garbage. I'm sure a lot of battles have gone the wrong because of it. The site doesn't have enough activity to warrant more than 2vp anyways. I think a vp change should take at least 2 mods to do. If it's not the case already. Cuz vp changes could easily sway battles. Edit* I wouldn't be opposed to a 0, 1, 2 vp scale. But anything more than 2vp makes one vote to important cuz of the low activity.

Right. I just don’t see why someone’s vote would count more than someone else’s. 2 fair voters club member votes verses 2 non fair voters club votes and a person still lose by double the amount of points. It makes nooo sense at all.

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

If the only possible VPs are 2 and 0, that's functionally identical to the only possible VPs being 1 and 0.

Your suggestion is stupid though.

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

If the only possible VPs are 2 and 0, that's functionally identical to the only possible VPs being 1 and 0.

Your suggestion is stupid though.

Originally Posted by Shodan

If the only possible VPs are 2 and 0, that's functionally identical to the only possible VPs being 1 and 0.

Your suggestion is stupid though.

It’s not because if everyone’s voting power is all over the place, how is that even close to being fair? Are you thinking before you respond or do you just type?

Originally Posted by Shodan

If the only possible VPs are 2 and 0, that's functionally identical to the only possible VPs being 1 and 0.

Your suggestion is stupid though.

It’s not because if everyone’s voting power is all over the place, how is that even close to being fair? Are you thinking before you respond or do you just type?

[MaCc Da G0D]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

AND THIS IS MOTHERFUCCIN FACTS!!!!!!

[MaCc Da G0D]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

AND THIS IS MOTHERFUCCIN FACTS!!!!!!

[Airborne Esco]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

That's how I feel. I have a few
Losses in which I got 1 or 2 more votes but since battles get slept on if an opponent gets one mod vote or vote w someone who has more vp its auto win for opponent. I never understood that. I think VP should maximize at 2. My only thing with voters on this site is they don't umder stand that battle rap has different battle styles. Not everyone has a consistent multi after multi or wordplay after wordplay. Some battlers are strictly punches and strictly metaphors or combine a little of all. A vote should be based on who had the best overall round not who lacked mutlies &etc:

[Airborne Esco]

Originally Posted by Son of Dubai

Everyone’s voting power should be the same. Even the mods. Everyone should have 2VP and terrible voters should have 0. No one should have 1, no one should have 4. Just because someone’s a mod doesn’t mean they’re a top level voter.

That's how I feel. I have a few
Losses in which I got 1 or 2 more votes but since battles get slept on if an opponent gets one mod vote or vote w someone who has more vp its auto win for opponent. I never understood that. I think VP should maximize at 2. My only thing with voters on this site is they don't umder stand that battle rap has different battle styles. Not everyone has a consistent multi after multi or wordplay after wordplay. Some battlers are strictly punches and strictly metaphors or combine a little of all. A vote should be based on who had the best overall round not who lacked mutlies &etc:

[Erupt da Monsta]

Only if you're the GOAT.

[Erupt da Monsta]

Only if you're the GOAT.

I agree with the OP that exceptional voters should be granted 3 VP - Shodan, Babylon, Rai, Esso would be a few good examples. I see NOBLE's point too but I haven't seen any conflict like that in recent times over VP so I don't really foresee this being an issue.

I agree with the OP that exceptional voters should be granted 3 VP - Shodan, Babylon, Rai, Esso would be a few good examples. I see NOBLE's point too but I haven't seen any conflict like that in recent times over VP so I don't really foresee this being an issue.