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Step 2.) Find peace.
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lol I have nothing against muslims, but i just had to use these personals against her.
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Step 1.) Don't be a bigoted prick.
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lol I have nothing against muslims, but i just had to use these personals against her.
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First off, I'm pretty sure that rap battling is prohibited in Islam (that is, the religion that was taught by Muhammad, not the various rap artists today who do not follow that but rather follow a strange mishmash of various beliefs and likely don't even pray towards Makkah five times a day). Obviously, you can't find the Qur'anic ayah or hadiith that directly states such, since it doesn't exist, but it doesn't exactly take a mujtahid mutlaq - or even a knowledgeable shaykh - to derive this from the sharee'ah, which prohibits nearly all forms of music - not to mention vulgarity. I'm quite curious as to what masjid you went to where this took place - did this occur in California, by any chance?
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One syllable multis are quite basic, and when you have multis that use only the prefix/suffix of the word to rhyme, such as "mother" and "undercover," they become quite unimpactful. Try to stray away from these tyeps of rhymes in the verse, really; "daughter" and "slaughter," "mystery" and "history" etc etc. They look basic, because they are fairly basic. Unless you can attach a solid ass punch to the end of a 3 syllable multi, it's probably going to be throwaway material.
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While this was, overall, a good critique, I have to disagree with what you're stating about three-syllable multies here. What you're saying about rhymes like "mystery"/"history" - rhymes that only include one word - is something that I agree is generally true. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with three-syllable multies that incorporate multiple words; indeed, if you were to carry a three-syllable rhyme scheme for quite a while, it might even become acceptable to throw one-word sets in there to keep it going without creating anything that's wack.
I'm not saying that three-syllable multies are equivalent to longer multies, by any means, but they are certainly usable. Analogically, I would liken it to the difference between a machine gun and a pistol. The machine gun is definitely the more powerful weapon, and you can quickly fire off a bunch of rounds just by holding down the trigger. Your impulsive reaction to that statement might be, "Well, you would only want to have a pistol instead of a machine gun if you were too weak or unskilled to properly handle the high recoil and had to have a smaller weapon," but that just isn't true - a pistol has many advantages over a machine gun in some areas. They're lighter, easier to aim, and not nearly as much of a problem to concealed-carry, as they are smaller (this could be likened to three-syllable multies taking up less space, allowing you to pack more punches and sets into your verse). (Side note: Three syllables is probably the least I would consider to be acceptable at a competitive level for... anything rap-related, really. For the purpose of this weapon analogy, I would think of one or two-syllable multies as a knife, and you should never bring a knife to a gun fight.)
It's true that, in a hypothetical fight between one guy with a machine gun and one guy with a pistol, you would probably want to be the guy with the machine gun unless the guy with the pistol got to start right next to his adversary with the barrel pointed at his (the adversary's) head and his hand on the trigger. By no means does this lead us to the conclusion that a pistol is useless. Let's not forget that machine guns also have a tendency to have many of their bullets miss the target - something which can be clearly analogized to eight-syllable rhyme schemes being full of slanted rhymes - and, in the hands of the greatest sharpshooters, the pistol might just kill the guy with the machine gun before he has a chance to start the spray-n'-pray tactics.
Summary of the above - There's nothing wrong with three-syllable multies in and of themselves. It's the unskilled asshole who is using them that you ought to be concerned about - unless, of course, the schemes are in the hands of an expert battler that can make good use of them, in which case they are equally - or perhaps even more - lethal when compared to longer schemes. There doesn't necessarily have to be a "solid ass punch" within such schemes to make them something other than "throwaway material" - just fluent use of rhyming and something of relevance to whatever is being rapped about, which should exist in all multi sets anyway.
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First off, I'm pretty sure that rap battling is prohibited in Islam (that is, the religion that was taught by Muhammad, not the various rap artists today who do not follow that but rather follow a strange mishmash of various beliefs and likely don't even pray towards Makkah five times a day). Obviously, you can't find the Qur'anic ayah or hadiith that directly states such, since it doesn't exist, but it doesn't exactly take a mujtahid mutlaq - or even a knowledgeable shaykh - to derive this from the sharee'ah, which prohibits nearly all forms of music - not to mention vulgarity. I'm quite curious as to what masjid you went to where this took place - did this occur in California, by any chance?
Alright, now that we have that out of the way:
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Originally Posted by Babylon
One syllable multis are quite basic, and when you have multis that use only the prefix/suffix of the word to rhyme, such as "mother" and "undercover," they become quite unimpactful. Try to stray away from these tyeps of rhymes in the verse, really; "daughter" and "slaughter," "mystery" and "history" etc etc. They look basic, because they are fairly basic. Unless you can attach a solid ass punch to the end of a 3 syllable multi, it's probably going to be throwaway material.
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While this was, overall, a good critique, I have to disagree with what you're stating about three-syllable multies here. What you're saying about rhymes like "mystery"/"history" - rhymes that only include one word - is something that I agree is generally true. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with three-syllable multies that incorporate multiple words; indeed, if you were to carry a three-syllable rhyme scheme for quite a while, it might even become acceptable to throw one-word sets in there to keep it going without creating anything that's wack.
I'm not saying that three-syllable multies are equivalent to longer multies, by any means, but they are certainly usable. Analogically, I would liken it to the difference between a machine gun and a pistol. The machine gun is definitely the more powerful weapon, and you can quickly fire off a bunch of rounds just by holding down the trigger. Your impulsive reaction to that statement might be, "Well, you would only want to have a pistol instead of a machine gun if you were too weak or unskilled to properly handle the high recoil and had to have a smaller weapon," but that just isn't true - a pistol has many advantages over a machine gun in some areas. They're lighter, easier to aim, and not nearly as much of a problem to concealed-carry, as they are smaller (this could be likened to three-syllable multies taking up less space, allowing you to pack more punches and sets into your verse). (Side note: Three syllables is probably the least I would consider to be acceptable at a competitive level for... anything rap-related, really. For the purpose of this weapon analogy, I would think of one or two-syllable multies as a knife, and you should never bring a knife to a gun fight.)
It's true that, in a hypothetical fight between one guy with a machine gun and one guy with a pistol, you would probably want to be the guy with the machine gun unless the guy with the pistol got to start right next to his adversary with the barrel pointed at his (the adversary's) head and his hand on the trigger. By no means does this lead us to the conclusion that a pistol is useless. Let's not forget that machine guns also have a tendency to have many of their bullets miss the target - something which can be clearly analogized to eight-syllable rhyme schemes being full of slanted rhymes - and, in the hands of the greatest sharpshooters, the pistol might just kill the guy with the machine gun before he has a chance to start the spray-n'-pray tactics.
Summary of the above - There's nothing wrong with three-syllable multies in and of themselves. It's the unskilled asshole who is using them that you ought to be concerned about - unless, of course, the schemes are in the hands of an expert battler that can make good use of them, in which case they are equally - or perhaps even more - lethal when compared to longer schemes. There doesn't necessarily have to be a "solid ass punch" within such schemes to make them something other than "throwaway material" - just fluent use of rhyming and something of relevance to whatever is being rapped about, which should exist in all multi sets anyway.
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5-3 Vote against me vs Ronin and said i used too many Parenthesis when only the very last word was in them...Did you mean quotation marks? Or do you even know the difference? Congrats, you're officially retarded
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5-3 Vote against me vs Ronin and said i used too many Parenthesis when only the very last word was in them...Did you mean quotation marks? Or do you even know the difference? Congrats, you're officially retarded
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