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dat new UFC game comin out
Is probably the only game on my radar for the next 3-4 months or so
Watch Dogs looks like doo doo in a CD case b....but dat UFC...especially seeing as how they put the series on halt for the past year or two and it went from THQ's hands to EA....shit. EA does a great job with sports related shit so I'm hopin they only elevate the MMA gamin experience
June 17th is the day if anybodys interested in gettin bodied on PS4
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dat new UFC game comin out
Is probably the only game on my radar for the next 3-4 months or so
Watch Dogs looks like doo doo in a CD case b....but dat UFC...especially seeing as how they put the series on halt for the past year or two and it went from THQ's hands to EA....shit. EA does a great job with sports related shit so I'm hopin they only elevate the MMA gamin experience
June 17th is the day if anybodys interested in gettin bodied on PS4
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A lot of "us" MMA fans have a good few gripes with it.
The action is WAAAY too fast. It's the exact same as EA MMA in most of it's issues. The reaction to punches is too much. If someone buckles from a body kick irl, they'll probably be finished quite soon. In EA UFC, they buckle on every kick. The grappling system is waaaay too simple. The focus is clearly on striking for the casual fans who aren't as interested in the technical stuff. There are also a lot of people annoyed that all of the techniques on the submissions are wrong. They never got a BJJ guy in to advice, so basically it was a bunch of Game Designers (damn cunts!) that were assuming they knew how the submissions were supposed to be performed.
The plus sides are the crazy good graphics, specifically on the fighters faces and actions. The whole presentation seems really authentic. In career mode, the Fight Night specific move points are back which is cool. I also love the "longevity" shit, in that if you just stand toe to toe then you'll eventually become the Chris Leben / Wanderlei Silva of the promotion.
One thing that's shocking is dudes like Travis Browne, Josh Barnett, Tyrone Woodley and Stefan Struve arent in the game.
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A lot of "us" MMA fans have a good few gripes with it.
The action is WAAAY too fast. It's the exact same as EA MMA in most of it's issues. The reaction to punches is too much. If someone buckles from a body kick irl, they'll probably be finished quite soon. In EA UFC, they buckle on every kick. The grappling system is waaaay too simple. The focus is clearly on striking for the casual fans who aren't as interested in the technical stuff. There are also a lot of people annoyed that all of the techniques on the submissions are wrong. They never got a BJJ guy in to advice, so basically it was a bunch of Game Designers (damn cunts!) that were assuming they knew how the submissions were supposed to be performed.
The plus sides are the crazy good graphics, specifically on the fighters faces and actions. The whole presentation seems really authentic. In career mode, the Fight Night specific move points are back which is cool. I also love the "longevity" shit, in that if you just stand toe to toe then you'll eventually become the Chris Leben / Wanderlei Silva of the promotion.
One thing that's shocking is dudes like Travis Browne, Josh Barnett, Tyrone Woodley and Stefan Struve arent in the game.
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I was gon pre-order that and a few more games.. My peeps suppose to be grabbing that PS4..
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I was gon pre-order that and a few more games.. My peeps suppose to be grabbing that PS4..
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EA are horrible at sports games. Only 1 they are good with is NHL 14.
Lol @ Watchdogs looks like doo doo then saying EA make great sports games. Gamer card revoked.
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EA are horrible at sports games. Only 1 they are good with is NHL 14.
Lol @ Watchdogs looks like doo doo then saying EA make great sports games. Gamer card revoked.
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So EA doesn't make great sports games? I'm pretty sure Madden is the highest selling sports game ever, every year. Unless that title goes to FIFA, which, surprisingly - is also an EA game!
If EA doesn't make good sports games then you must have access to a ton of sports games made by publishers that shit on EA's. EA doesn't do basketball, Take-Two(2k games/Rockstar games) makes 2k and after YEARS of having a monopoly on NBA games, the company that made NBA Live came back and their game flopped horribly
Who's gonna make EA look bad in soccer or football?
I don't see it happening. & I definitely don't see EA putting out a worse UFC game than THQ. I've played all the UFC video games. this EA game looks much more promising. & @ Dave they might buckle with every kick but its a game....ideally they should have every motion and mannerism down pat, but that's ideally, and we don't live in an ideal world. All the gripes you have with an MMA game are akin to gripes people have with the 'realism' of FPS games or other games. those gripes exist across the board.
& LOL if you think Watch Dogs looks good you probably haven't played many good games
Watch Dogs is a copypaste of GTA + hacks + half as immersive + half as good. Don't try to sell me on hype...I was the same nigga tellin everybody in my area that GTA V was decent but is a good 2-3 years behind. Told everybody they'd get over it in like a month or 2..after they assured me it was the greatest shit since water....surely, niggas sold their shit back or put it down a month or two later lol
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So EA doesn't make great sports games? I'm pretty sure Madden is the highest selling sports game ever, every year. Unless that title goes to FIFA, which, surprisingly - is also an EA game!
If EA doesn't make good sports games then you must have access to a ton of sports games made by publishers that shit on EA's. EA doesn't do basketball, Take-Two(2k games/Rockstar games) makes 2k and after YEARS of having a monopoly on NBA games, the company that made NBA Live came back and their game flopped horribly
Who's gonna make EA look bad in soccer or football?
I don't see it happening. & I definitely don't see EA putting out a worse UFC game than THQ. I've played all the UFC video games. this EA game looks much more promising. & @ Dave they might buckle with every kick but its a game....ideally they should have every motion and mannerism down pat, but that's ideally, and we don't live in an ideal world. All the gripes you have with an MMA game are akin to gripes people have with the 'realism' of FPS games or other games. those gripes exist across the board.
& LOL if you think Watch Dogs looks good you probably haven't played many good games
Watch Dogs is a copypaste of GTA + hacks + half as immersive + half as good. Don't try to sell me on hype...I was the same nigga tellin everybody in my area that GTA V was decent but is a good 2-3 years behind. Told everybody they'd get over it in like a month or 2..after they assured me it was the greatest shit since water....surely, niggas sold their shit back or put it down a month or two later lol
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EA make great casual arcade sports games, terrible sports sims. anyone with even the remotest interest in playing as close to the real thing. whether football or american football would go elsewhere.
Only reason Madden sells so well is because they have sole rights to the NFL brand. 2K blew them out of the water with 2k5 so EA instead of making a better game just bought the license to wipe out the competition.
Look at NBA live. Another EA game 2K wiped the floor with. EA are absolute garbage.
And Fifa fucking sucks, but again. it has no viable competition.
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EA make great casual arcade sports games, terrible sports sims. anyone with even the remotest interest in playing as close to the real thing. whether football or american football would go elsewhere.
Only reason Madden sells so well is because they have sole rights to the NFL brand. 2K blew them out of the water with 2k5 so EA instead of making a better game just bought the license to wipe out the competition.
Look at NBA live. Another EA game 2K wiped the floor with. EA are absolute garbage.
And Fifa fucking sucks, but again. it has no viable competition.
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So EA doesn't make great sports games? I'm pretty sure Madden is the highest selling sports game ever, every year. Unless that title goes to FIFA, which, surprisingly - is also an EA game!
If EA doesn't make good sports games then you must have access to a ton of sports games made by publishers that shit on EA's. EA doesn't do basketball, Take-Two(2k games/Rockstar games) makes 2k and after YEARS of having a monopoly on NBA games, the company that made NBA Live came back and their game flopped horribly
Who's gonna make EA look bad in soccer or football?
I don't see it happening. & I definitely don't see EA putting out a worse UFC game than THQ. I've played all the UFC video games. this EA game looks much more promising. & @ Dave they might buckle with every kick but its a game....ideally they should have every motion and mannerism down pat, but that's ideally, and we don't live in an ideal world. All the gripes you have with an MMA game are akin to gripes people have with the 'realism' of FPS games or other games. those gripes exist across the board.
& LOL if you think Watch Dogs looks good you probably haven't played many good games
Watch Dogs is a copypaste of GTA + hacks + half as immersive + half as good. Don't try to sell me on hype...I was the same nigga tellin everybody in my area that GTA V was decent but is a good 2-3 years behind. Told everybody they'd get over it in like a month or 2..after they assured me it was the greatest shit since water....surely, niggas sold their shit back or put it down a month or two later lol
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EA make great casual arcade sports games, terrible sports sims. anyone with even the remotest interest in playing as close to the real thing. whether football or american football would go elsewhere.
Only reason Madden sells so well is because they have sole rights to the NFL brand. 2K blew them out of the water with 2k5 so EA instead of making a better game just bought the license to wipe out the competition.
Look at NBA live. Another EA game 2K wiped the floor with. EA are absolute garbage.
And Fifa fucking sucks, but again. it has no viable competition.
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I didn't see Pulse mention FIFA and I was going to be like "Not a chance Madden outsells it" and looked it up and everything, smh lol.
I disagree with Just C and agree with you though. EA makes the only good sports games. Just C is a Pro Evo guy though. He prefers to play with bad graphics and no licencing, and will claim gameplay over and over again when really that's a matter of subjection. I personally think Fifa 14's gameplay absolutely smashes Pro Evo's, but he would disagree strongly (I don't like Fifa 14 either).
I agree with you about making it fun, but I feel THQ had a good balance. I was killing it online and all that stuff for ages, and only recently I learned how to effectively strike from the bottom. I was able to successfully play the game while not even learning half of the subtle skills. I play tournament with my brother a lot. If I go Anderson, I'm dropping my hands and moving my head, taunting a lot. If I'm Chael, I'm taking him down, holding him there, and trying not to be stood up. If I'm Mir, I'll put him against the cage, beat him up, and eventually look to take it down for the sub. A lot more options that EA will allow. Besides a MUCH better looking presentation from EA, the HUGE aspect it has over UFC is flash knockouts. There was soooo little of it in UFC. I'd say I've played maybe near to 1000 games, and have probably seen less then 20 fights finish flash. I really like that aspect of EA's versions.
And don't get me wrong, I played a lot of EA MMA and would probably be playing it now if my specific disk didnt stall in the installation process. Was a very fun game, specifically with people who didn't know quite as much about it. I'd make strikers, go to Brazil, and fight for the entire time, jst landing my jab and both fighters getting absolutely battered. Will be a cool combination with the longevity thing in EA UFC.
With Watch Dogs, it's going to be pretty good. It won't be revolutionary. You can see VERY clearly from the videos that the driving is as good as any open world non-GTA game. It looks like LA Noire or Saints Row, in that the handling is terrible. GTA 4 had the best to me, because the cars were VERY grounded and felt stiff, but you could open them up if you really got the opportunity. GTA 5 was pretty good but I think they went a bit overboard with the speed of the cars and the very relaxed handling. Watch Dogs will just be like every other Wheelman or whatever other shit game in that respect.
The storymode will be okay, but Chicago with a pretty boring seeming character won;t exactly be CJ trying to save Sweet in San Andreas. The hacking will be AWESOME for a while, but will slowly become a bit repetitive. Also, it's being hailed for it's innovation, but the whole hacking from a distance thing has been touched on by Splinter Cell a few times. I remember some old awesome James Bond game had a bit of it too. It will be a solid enough all round game though. Online seems awesome but won't get the credit it deserves and won't be all that enjoyable, a bit like GTA 5 or Assassin's Creed 3.
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So EA doesn't make great sports games? I'm pretty sure Madden is the highest selling sports game ever, every year. Unless that title goes to FIFA, which, surprisingly - is also an EA game!
If EA doesn't make good sports games then you must have access to a ton of sports games made by publishers that shit on EA's. EA doesn't do basketball, Take-Two(2k games/Rockstar games) makes 2k and after YEARS of having a monopoly on NBA games, the company that made NBA Live came back and their game flopped horribly
Who's gonna make EA look bad in soccer or football?
I don't see it happening. & I definitely don't see EA putting out a worse UFC game than THQ. I've played all the UFC video games. this EA game looks much more promising. & @ Dave they might buckle with every kick but its a game....ideally they should have every motion and mannerism down pat, but that's ideally, and we don't live in an ideal world. All the gripes you have with an MMA game are akin to gripes people have with the 'realism' of FPS games or other games. those gripes exist across the board.
& LOL if you think Watch Dogs looks good you probably haven't played many good games
Watch Dogs is a copypaste of GTA + hacks + half as immersive + half as good. Don't try to sell me on hype...I was the same nigga tellin everybody in my area that GTA V was decent but is a good 2-3 years behind. Told everybody they'd get over it in like a month or 2..after they assured me it was the greatest shit since water....surely, niggas sold their shit back or put it down a month or two later lol
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EA make great casual arcade sports games, terrible sports sims. anyone with even the remotest interest in playing as close to the real thing. whether football or american football would go elsewhere.
Only reason Madden sells so well is because they have sole rights to the NFL brand. 2K blew them out of the water with 2k5 so EA instead of making a better game just bought the license to wipe out the competition.
Look at NBA live. Another EA game 2K wiped the floor with. EA are absolute garbage.
And Fifa fucking sucks, but again. it has no viable competition.
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I didn't see Pulse mention FIFA and I was going to be like "Not a chance Madden outsells it" and looked it up and everything, smh lol.
I disagree with Just C and agree with you though. EA makes the only good sports games. Just C is a Pro Evo guy though. He prefers to play with bad graphics and no licencing, and will claim gameplay over and over again when really that's a matter of subjection. I personally think Fifa 14's gameplay absolutely smashes Pro Evo's, but he would disagree strongly (I don't like Fifa 14 either).
I agree with you about making it fun, but I feel THQ had a good balance. I was killing it online and all that stuff for ages, and only recently I learned how to effectively strike from the bottom. I was able to successfully play the game while not even learning half of the subtle skills. I play tournament with my brother a lot. If I go Anderson, I'm dropping my hands and moving my head, taunting a lot. If I'm Chael, I'm taking him down, holding him there, and trying not to be stood up. If I'm Mir, I'll put him against the cage, beat him up, and eventually look to take it down for the sub. A lot more options that EA will allow. Besides a MUCH better looking presentation from EA, the HUGE aspect it has over UFC is flash knockouts. There was soooo little of it in UFC. I'd say I've played maybe near to 1000 games, and have probably seen less then 20 fights finish flash. I really like that aspect of EA's versions.
And don't get me wrong, I played a lot of EA MMA and would probably be playing it now if my specific disk didnt stall in the installation process. Was a very fun game, specifically with people who didn't know quite as much about it. I'd make strikers, go to Brazil, and fight for the entire time, jst landing my jab and both fighters getting absolutely battered. Will be a cool combination with the longevity thing in EA UFC.
With Watch Dogs, it's going to be pretty good. It won't be revolutionary. You can see VERY clearly from the videos that the driving is as good as any open world non-GTA game. It looks like LA Noire or Saints Row, in that the handling is terrible. GTA 4 had the best to me, because the cars were VERY grounded and felt stiff, but you could open them up if you really got the opportunity. GTA 5 was pretty good but I think they went a bit overboard with the speed of the cars and the very relaxed handling. Watch Dogs will just be like every other Wheelman or whatever other shit game in that respect.
The storymode will be okay, but Chicago with a pretty boring seeming character won;t exactly be CJ trying to save Sweet in San Andreas. The hacking will be AWESOME for a while, but will slowly become a bit repetitive. Also, it's being hailed for it's innovation, but the whole hacking from a distance thing has been touched on by Splinter Cell a few times. I remember some old awesome James Bond game had a bit of it too. It will be a solid enough all round game though. Online seems awesome but won't get the credit it deserves and won't be all that enjoyable, a bit like GTA 5 or Assassin's Creed 3.
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Yeah Just C is saying there's no other competition and etc etc etc...But don't you think maybe there's no competition because EA has a stranglehold on it? You have shooters that are PUBLISHED by EA like Titanfall & Battlefield...but you'll never see EA make their own shooter that renders every other shooter useless..they'll try their hand at one, but never dominate.
But they have a sports division and everything handling their sports sims...I agree NBA Live was horrible. I made that point just for that. But you don't see Take-Two trying their hand at an american football/futbol game? Just because you're horrible at creating basketball sims doesn't mean every sports sim you make will suck
People everywhere are die hard FIFA & Madden fans...they'll tell you they're pleased with those games
& Adding a competitor into that market is healthy competition because EA would have to step it up
The same way EA failed horribly at taking market share from Take-Two and their basketball game, other companies would fail horribly taking market share from EA in the football/futbol sims
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Yeah Just C is saying there's no other competition and etc etc etc...But don't you think maybe there's no competition because EA has a stranglehold on it? You have shooters that are PUBLISHED by EA like Titanfall & Battlefield...but you'll never see EA make their own shooter that renders every other shooter useless..they'll try their hand at one, but never dominate.
But they have a sports division and everything handling their sports sims...I agree NBA Live was horrible. I made that point just for that. But you don't see Take-Two trying their hand at an american football/futbol game? Just because you're horrible at creating basketball sims doesn't mean every sports sim you make will suck
People everywhere are die hard FIFA & Madden fans...they'll tell you they're pleased with those games
& Adding a competitor into that market is healthy competition because EA would have to step it up
The same way EA failed horribly at taking market share from Take-Two and their basketball game, other companies would fail horribly taking market share from EA in the football/futbol sims
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Futbol....interesting compromise from an American. I could live with that.
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plot twist
I'm Dominican (no really. I was born THERE, not here) and in central/latin america we call it futbol.
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I'm Dominican (no really. I was born THERE, not here) and in central/latin america we call it futbol.
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