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No.... someone made a thread an multiple posts claiming I bit their line.... I got a battle open son.... that shit ain't cool specially when its off base as fuck.... I didnt ban or infract anyone but I think the shits lame
Ahhh i see. With'cha now....that fucking BLNK guy's a retarded fool anyway. Keeps trying to 'One Up' everyone, he get's so far with me then i actually end up saying to myself, ahhh here fuck it an i put him in his place with a few words an he leaves the forums alone for a while.....Shame really, that ppl need to get attention through bullshit an not through positive battling/making tracks etc.

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No.... someone made a thread an multiple posts claiming I bit their line.... I got a battle open son.... that shit ain't cool specially when its off base as fuck.... I didnt ban or infract anyone but I think the shits lame
Ahhh i see. With'cha now....that fucking BLNK guy's a retarded fool anyway. Keeps trying to 'One Up' everyone, he get's so far with me then i actually end up saying to myself, ahhh here fuck it an i put him in his place with a few words an he leaves the forums alone for a while.....Shame really, that ppl need to get attention through bullshit an not through positive battling/making tracks etc.

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BLNK did get warned though, I deleted all the swaying bullshit on the battle link thread and he opened a new one anyway
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BLNK did get warned though, I deleted all the swaying bullshit on the battle link thread and he opened a new one anyway
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Beef and false accusations aren't limited to the battle box, neither is the potential to tarnish someone's reputation limited to forum threads. You can throw "personals" in the battle box that, if plausible, have potential to weaken the opponent's reputation.
Coming out and saying someone's a cheater in a thread isn't necessarily ruining someone's reputation. Neither is the person being accused necessarily "innocent." As a mod, thank goodness for people making such threads, because often times, there is some truth to them and they alert one to things. I shouldn't have to spell this out, but since you ask how can I make the comparison, here's how:
If you call someone a fag in the forums or if you call someone a cheater, those could both be false accusations made in the context of beefing. How tarnishing they are to someone's reputation comes from whether people actually believe it.
I'm saying if you're going to give an infraction because someone calls someone else a cheater and that's a false accusation, are you going to give out infractions every time someone gets called a fag in the forums because that's a false accusation too? Come on. If you're the "innocent" person being falsely called a cheater and its in the context of beef, just suck it up. People aren't going to believe it anyway unless there's some evidence to it.
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Beef and false accusations aren't limited to the battle box, neither is the potential to tarnish someone's reputation limited to forum threads. You can throw "personals" in the battle box that, if plausible, have potential to weaken the opponent's reputation.
Coming out and saying someone's a cheater in a thread isn't necessarily ruining someone's reputation. Neither is the person being accused necessarily "innocent." As a mod, thank goodness for people making such threads, because often times, there is some truth to them and they alert one to things. I shouldn't have to spell this out, but since you ask how can I make the comparison, here's how:
If you call someone a fag in the forums or if you call someone a cheater, those could both be false accusations made in the context of beefing. How tarnishing they are to someone's reputation comes from whether people actually believe it.
I'm saying if you're going to give an infraction because someone calls someone else a cheater and that's a false accusation, are you going to give out infractions every time someone gets called a fag in the forums because that's a false accusation too? Come on. If you're the "innocent" person being falsely called a cheater and its in the context of beef, just suck it up. People aren't going to believe it anyway unless there's some evidence to it.
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Maybe its time for a vote of some kind? See whos up for bringing in a form of punishment for false cheating accusation.

Lemme add a poll.
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Maybe its time for a vote of some kind? See whos up for bringing in a form of punishment for false cheating accusation.

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I think there should be, but only in a battle link thread or on battles. So many people go for pages and pages bout the other one being cheater in a thread about something completely irrelevant
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I think there should be, but only in a battle link thread or on battles. So many people go for pages and pages bout the other one being cheater in a thread about something completely irrelevant
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Also you need to figure out where line is on 'accusations' also, if it's a personal message to a mod. Is that going to count as false accusations?
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Also you need to figure out where line is on 'accusations' also, if it's a personal message to a mod. Is that going to count as false accusations?
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Alright this the deal .. I not beefing with @Phil Banks anymore BUT When I accused him of being a biter it WAS based on material I felt was EVIDENCE ..In this case IT was his own words .. Im sure everyone remembers the skit .. and this was old news evidently .. but from my research in those forum threads Phils defense was he doesnt watch URL and some individuals commented saying that its a played bar .. TBH i dont believe that and from the sensitive reactions he gets from ppl calling him a biter steers me in the direction that he did bite .. BUT thats over with now he denies it and Im not wasting my time on the net arguing with someone about that level of shit ,, so i squashed that shit .. MY POINT? an accusation should be thoroughly investigated before resulting in a ban .. the decision also should be made as a whole .. and if its one the staff members being accused he cannot count as a vote in the matter to prevent biased towards the accused Any thoughts towards this method? @RULE @Jason @2FUEL @NOBLE
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Alright this the deal .. I not beefing with @Phil Banks anymore BUT When I accused him of being a biter it WAS based on material I felt was EVIDENCE ..In this case IT was his own words .. Im sure everyone remembers the skit .. and this was old news evidently .. but from my research in those forum threads Phils defense was he doesnt watch URL and some individuals commented saying that its a played bar .. TBH i dont believe that and from the sensitive reactions he gets from ppl calling him a biter steers me in the direction that he did bite .. BUT thats over with now he denies it and Im not wasting my time on the net arguing with someone about that level of shit ,, so i squashed that shit .. MY POINT? an accusation should be thoroughly investigated before resulting in a ban .. the decision also should be made as a whole .. and if its one the staff members being accused he cannot count as a vote in the matter to prevent biased towards the accused Any thoughts towards this method? @RULE @Jason @2FUEL @NOBLE
 
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i think youre missin the overall point

no one cares about what happened with you and phil

this is a general thread regarding the subject of people pulling cheating accusations out of their ass in order to slander other people

its one thing to have a legitimate case where it looks like someone is biting and to bring that to our attention... its totally another to totally fabricate a cheating accusation to hurt someones rep... thats what we're getting at here
You may have misinterpreted my view I was using US as an example for a situation where theres debatable facts i wasnt reopening an allegation on PHIL and also I was saying that it should be expedited thoroughly before making a decision and the choice should be made as a whole thats all bro ... shrugs

P.S. Fuck you too nigga! i dont care about you either! lol

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i think youre missin the overall point

no one cares about what happened with you and phil

this is a general thread regarding the subject of people pulling cheating accusations out of their ass in order to slander other people

its one thing to have a legitimate case where it looks like someone is biting and to bring that to our attention... its totally another to totally fabricate a cheating accusation to hurt someones rep... thats what we're getting at here
You may have misinterpreted my view I was using US as an example for a situation where theres debatable facts i wasnt reopening an allegation on PHIL and also I was saying that it should be expedited thoroughly before making a decision and the choice should be made as a whole thats all bro ... shrugs

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Exactly. And even in the case of having evidence to go with a claim the proper method to deal with it would be to inform a mod and let them deal with it.
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Unread 10-09-2012, 01:01 PM   #20
 
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Exactly. And even in the case of having evidence to go with a claim the proper method to deal with it would be to inform a mod and let them deal with it.
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