I do think the track section should be kept simply because we have track makers from the past that have posted and don't come online anymore and it kind of takes away from what they've done cats like Mars, Stotty P, Relly, Punk, myself etc. and then the ratings could go away
I think secondary titles could go on profiles and the main ones like Grand Champ and HOF should stay on forums etc as they currently are.
Which would give the GC and HOF titles more prestige imo.
1 GC for each category would be nice like Audio and Text.
As for a cap on battles, not sure how I feel about that, not sure if that would help activity, as there aren't many battles to begin with....
I don't think titles should be reinstated after account deletions.
I do think the track section should be kept simply because we have track makers from the past that have posted and don't come online anymore and it kind of takes away from what they've done cats like Mars, Stotty P, Relly, Punk, myself etc. and then the ratings could go away
I think secondary titles could go on profiles and the main ones like Grand Champ and HOF should stay on forums etc as they currently are.
Which would give the GC and HOF titles more prestige imo.
1 GC for each category would be nice like Audio and Text.
As for a cap on battles, not sure how I feel about that, not sure if that would help activity, as there aren't many battles to begin with....
I don't think titles should be reinstated after account deletions.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
Ethan LMFAO, sounds like the name of a kid who wears scarfs and shit talks on CoD all fuckin day.
This all is very much entertaining. People have joined, people enjoy this stuff...the problem is the power bestowed upon the mods & FVC... i can name atleast 10 very active members in the last month that logged off bc of mods/FVC voting power. Trust is in the wrong hands.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
Ethan LMFAO, sounds like the name of a kid who wears scarfs and shit talks on CoD all fuckin day.
This all is very much entertaining. People have joined, people enjoy this stuff...the problem is the power bestowed upon the mods & FVC... i can name atleast 10 very active members in the last month that logged off bc of mods/FVC voting power. Trust is in the wrong hands.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
This is the only thread with posts on it in like 2 years and you want to delete them lmao stfu.
You were admin until2 years ago? Awesome, cool, you were wrong though. You told us a million times and you know you did, that V4 was coming. To stay patient. That there was shit happening the behind the scenes that we werent privy to and that we just needed to have faith and relax. You said this for 10 years. How long do we have to stay patient exactly? Cause not a fucking thing has changed and the site has went EXACTLY like guys like me and Pulse told you. Instead of trying to take action, you guys just sat around telling everyone to stop complaining. Now the site is dead as fuck and you guys think proposing coding changes that X wont do and deleting usertitles is going to make a single bit of difference.
For you guys who cosign all of these, please explain to me how that gets us new members to a 2007 designed website that doesn't have any form of promotion or advertisement. If any of you can answer me that, I'll jump on board and work full time for LB.
@RULE or any mod, feel free to move all irrelevant posts, including my back and forth with Ethan, into a new thread. I don't want the bullshit to get in the way of the topic. Let's stay focused.
This is the only thread with posts on it in like 2 years and you want to delete them lmao stfu.
You were admin until2 years ago? Awesome, cool, you were wrong though. You told us a million times and you know you did, that V4 was coming. To stay patient. That there was shit happening the behind the scenes that we werent privy to and that we just needed to have faith and relax. You said this for 10 years. How long do we have to stay patient exactly? Cause not a fucking thing has changed and the site has went EXACTLY like guys like me and Pulse told you. Instead of trying to take action, you guys just sat around telling everyone to stop complaining. Now the site is dead as fuck and you guys think proposing coding changes that X wont do and deleting usertitles is going to make a single bit of difference.
For you guys who cosign all of these, please explain to me how that gets us new members to a 2007 designed website that doesn't have any form of promotion or advertisement. If any of you can answer me that, I'll jump on board and work full time for LB.
This is a list of my proposal to improve Letsbeef from an in-site context.
We know a lot of modifications need to be done as far as coding, mobile-friendly etc etc but this is strictly to improve / make the site more appealing.
1. Usertitles Deleted
So im in two minds over this point, so my proposal is one of these two options:
A) All usertitles, besides staff title & HoF'er are removed, and only titles won as of Jan 2022 onwards will be awarded (This is to work along side a much more reduced tourney schedule which i'll propose later).
B) All usertitles are to receive an expiry period of 5 years. This excludes HoF & staff titles.
A section can be put on a users profile (in place of the award system perhaps) to permanently display usertitles.
I think when you see 20+ people with 5 titles apiece it reduces the desire to win them. When i started on this site 5% of users had titles, now it seems like 50% do.
2. Reduced Tournament Schedule
I think we should strip it back to the basics. Two tournament max a year, One a Grand Championship perhaps?
I think we need tournaments to become more special and unique. If you have one / two every month it gets too much.
I think one tournament a year should definitely have a cash prize.
Strip the site back, make less forums, less clutter.
4. Close the Unranked & Exclusive Battle Sections
Again, too much clutter, and never used.
5. Audio Battles - Written Only
Freestyle battles are generally abused i find, let's make all battles officially written. Less drama that way.
6. Cypher Sections Reduced
Audio section closed (Audio cyphers are pretty much tracks right?)
Text section reduced / changed. A solo most votes top 20 list, a solo most recent top 20 list. Thats it.
7. Rankings Reset
Again im a little torn about this, but i think as of Dec 31st 2021 the ranking should be frozen (and moved somewhere for prosperity, HoF perhaps?) but ultimately reset as of Jan 1st 2022 to encourage the active members to get involved.
8. Ratings Removed on Battles & Tracks
Everyone rates every track a 10, every cypher a ten etc etc, lets get rid of them. I think an upvote / downvote system would be just as effective.
And with battles, i think you should vote for a winner only. Rating i think are redundant when an expo is already required.
9. No Title / Name Reinstation Upon Account Deletion
Simply - If you request your account is deleted, you lose the username and titles permanently. Deleting accounts is a massive issue for the site, i think we need to curb the occurrence of it as much as possible.
Perhaps signing a disclaimer upon account registration would help.
Have a think and drop your feedback on these points. There is still time to save LB, but perhaps some bold actions are needed.
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Wtf does any of that have to do with improving the site???
Takin about titles and cyphers. And making audio battles all written...smh
---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 AM ----------
HOW ABOUT CHANGE THE LOOK OF THIS BITCH...SHITS BEEN THE SAME FOR OVER A DECADE AND A HALF.
AND WHOEVER DECIDED TO HAVE VOTING POWER SHIT AND LET THE MODS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE PEOPLES VOTING POWER, COMPLETELY KILLED THE BATTLES..A BATTLE THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY DOESN'T HAVE A TRUE OUTCOME DEPENDING ON WHO VOTES. THERE AINT THAT MANY ACTIVE USERS AND I CAN BET A LOT OF EM DONT EVEN HAVE ANY VOTING POWER.. ALL IT TAKES IS AN ARGUMENT WITH A MOD AND THEY GO AND CHANGE YOUR SHIT...IM ONE OF EM. I HAVE 0 VOTING POWER.
This is a list of my proposal to improve Letsbeef from an in-site context.
We know a lot of modifications need to be done as far as coding, mobile-friendly etc etc but this is strictly to improve / make the site more appealing.
1. Usertitles Deleted
So im in two minds over this point, so my proposal is one of these two options:
A) All usertitles, besides staff title & HoF'er are removed, and only titles won as of Jan 2022 onwards will be awarded (This is to work along side a much more reduced tourney schedule which i'll propose later).
B) All usertitles are to receive an expiry period of 5 years. This excludes HoF & staff titles.
A section can be put on a users profile (in place of the award system perhaps) to permanently display usertitles.
I think when you see 20+ people with 5 titles apiece it reduces the desire to win them. When i started on this site 5% of users had titles, now it seems like 50% do.
2. Reduced Tournament Schedule
I think we should strip it back to the basics. Two tournament max a year, One a Grand Championship perhaps?
I think we need tournaments to become more special and unique. If you have one / two every month it gets too much.
I think one tournament a year should definitely have a cash prize.
Strip the site back, make less forums, less clutter.
4. Close the Unranked & Exclusive Battle Sections
Again, too much clutter, and never used.
5. Audio Battles - Written Only
Freestyle battles are generally abused i find, let's make all battles officially written. Less drama that way.
6. Cypher Sections Reduced
Audio section closed (Audio cyphers are pretty much tracks right?)
Text section reduced / changed. A solo most votes top 20 list, a solo most recent top 20 list. Thats it.
7. Rankings Reset
Again im a little torn about this, but i think as of Dec 31st 2021 the ranking should be frozen (and moved somewhere for prosperity, HoF perhaps?) but ultimately reset as of Jan 1st 2022 to encourage the active members to get involved.
8. Ratings Removed on Battles & Tracks
Everyone rates every track a 10, every cypher a ten etc etc, lets get rid of them. I think an upvote / downvote system would be just as effective.
And with battles, i think you should vote for a winner only. Rating i think are redundant when an expo is already required.
9. No Title / Name Reinstation Upon Account Deletion
Simply - If you request your account is deleted, you lose the username and titles permanently. Deleting accounts is a massive issue for the site, i think we need to curb the occurrence of it as much as possible.
Perhaps signing a disclaimer upon account registration would help.
Have a think and drop your feedback on these points. There is still time to save LB, but perhaps some bold actions are needed.
1/
Wtf does any of that have to do with improving the site???
Takin about titles and cyphers. And making audio battles all written...smh
---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 AM ----------
HOW ABOUT CHANGE THE LOOK OF THIS BITCH...SHITS BEEN THE SAME FOR OVER A DECADE AND A HALF.
AND WHOEVER DECIDED TO HAVE VOTING POWER SHIT AND LET THE MODS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE PEOPLES VOTING POWER, COMPLETELY KILLED THE BATTLES..A BATTLE THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY DOESN'T HAVE A TRUE OUTCOME DEPENDING ON WHO VOTES. THERE AINT THAT MANY ACTIVE USERS AND I CAN BET A LOT OF EM DONT EVEN HAVE ANY VOTING POWER.. ALL IT TAKES IS AN ARGUMENT WITH A MOD AND THEY GO AND CHANGE YOUR SHIT...IM ONE OF EM. I HAVE 0 VOTING POWER.
[/COLOR]HOW ABOUT CHANGE THE LOOK OF THIS BITCH...SHITS BEEN THE SAME FOR OVER A DECADE AND A HALF.
AND WHOEVER DECIDED TO HAVE VOTING POWER SHIT AND LET THE MODS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE PEOPLES VOTING POWER, COMPLETELY KILLED THE BATTLES..A BATTLE THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY DOESN'T HAVE A TRUE OUTCOME DEPENDING ON WHO VOTES. THERE AINT THAT MANY ACTIVE USERS AND I CAN BET A LOT OF EM DONT EVEN HAVE ANY VOTING POWER.. ALL IT TAKES IS AN ARGUMENT WITH A MOD AND THEY GO AND CHANGE YOUR SHIT...IM ONE OF EM. I HAVE 0 VOTING POWER.
AGAIN...MODS KILLED THIS SITE.
A broken car is still a broken car regardless of if you give it a fresh paint job.
We need to fix the site before worrying about what colour to paint it.
Voting power has been a good thing as it stops hate voters and general poor voters from stopping the best verse winning a battle.
If you were in a battle, and lost two votes to three, but your two votes were from respected members and the other three from new signee's you'd most likely be very unhappy.
Still with the activity level atm perhaps a voting power reset wouldnt be a bad idea?
[/COLOR]HOW ABOUT CHANGE THE LOOK OF THIS BITCH...SHITS BEEN THE SAME FOR OVER A DECADE AND A HALF.
AND WHOEVER DECIDED TO HAVE VOTING POWER SHIT AND LET THE MODS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE PEOPLES VOTING POWER, COMPLETELY KILLED THE BATTLES..A BATTLE THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY DOESN'T HAVE A TRUE OUTCOME DEPENDING ON WHO VOTES. THERE AINT THAT MANY ACTIVE USERS AND I CAN BET A LOT OF EM DONT EVEN HAVE ANY VOTING POWER.. ALL IT TAKES IS AN ARGUMENT WITH A MOD AND THEY GO AND CHANGE YOUR SHIT...IM ONE OF EM. I HAVE 0 VOTING POWER.
AGAIN...MODS KILLED THIS SITE.
A broken car is still a broken car regardless of if you give it a fresh paint job.
We need to fix the site before worrying about what colour to paint it.
Voting power has been a good thing as it stops hate voters and general poor voters from stopping the best verse winning a battle.
If you were in a battle, and lost two votes to three, but your two votes were from respected members and the other three from new signee's you'd most likely be very unhappy.
Still with the activity level atm perhaps a voting power reset wouldnt be a bad idea?
A broken car is still a broken car regardless of if you give it a fresh paint job.
We need to fix the site before worrying about what colour to paint it.
Voting power has been a good thing as it stops hate voters and general poor voters from stopping the best verse winning a battle.
If you were in a battle, and lost two votes to three, but your two votes were from respected members and the other three from new signee's you'd most likely be very unhappy.
Still with the activity level atm perhaps a voting power reset wouldnt be a bad idea?
Love you bro and I hope you know that so dont take this the wrong way. But I noticed you're only responding to those who's wither agreeing with you or won't put up a strong debate with you. You're shying away from the fact that there needs to be a new website as a whole or something VERY mobile friendly.
A broken car with a fresh paint job makes no sense, true but I won't know it's broken until I actually try to drive it. We need a new car as a whole. 0 miles on it. We can't keep touching up the 03 malibu with the same motor pretending it's going to last forever. You being one of the smartest guys on here should know that. Minimizing forums, worrying about who's deleting accounts, etc that's shit current members care about. No new members will give a damn if Punk deleted today. That's not gonna make him leave/stay.
You're original message is to make LB "look more appealing". You don't think changing the 2006 look makes the site look more appealing but removing a few categories do?
Letsbeef is running off of Vbulletin 3.8.... There's a whole 4 and 5. We're windows XP compared to Windows 11. Even if we wanted some new creative shit, we are very much limited because our current version does not support today's PHP.
All I'm saying is, we gotta realize that the forum days are over and we need to start evolving while we have a name still. There's a handful of guys who kept our name alive throughout the discord community (which Barzooka & I pushed to become what it is today then came along everyone else.) There wouldn't have been a Coronation card if we didn't eliminate tinychat and bring all of our issues and convos to a discord that wasn't active for a year.
The discord was POPPING while the site was completely dead. Why? Because it's today's form of communicating and battling online.
And also with account deletions. Yes some of us has done it. It's no different than when staff members disappear out of the blue leaving duties behind. (Not saying you) just saying literally no one complains about things like that. We all pick and choose.
There hasn't been a site leader here ever from my understanding. Most guys tske over for a couple of months, then they tire out fall back.
Look at everyone who's viewed the thread and look at everyone who's commented. It's mainly the new guys responding because the old heads understand where this thread is gonna go. Which is inside of the big ol archive of LB ideas that never gets done with the rest of them.
Me? I'm stubborn with nothing to do so I'm always here to give my ideas and feedback whenever anyone asks regardless of if it gets done or not. I just enjoy the conversation.
Like I said, you're my guy, you know it. That won't change. But come on bro. I'm sure you're not over there rocking the iPod nano because it has a touch sensitive bezel instead of just downloading Spotify.
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Spoiler for Punk's Letsbeef Awards:
Track Hall Of Famer
Audio Hall Of Famer
Best Track (2013)
Forum Beef of The Year (2014)
Best Track (2014)
Best Track Maker (2014)
Best Track (2015)
Best Track Maker (2015)
Best Track (2017)
Best Track Maker (2017)
Forum King (2018)
Forum Beef of The Year (2018)
Forum King (2019)
Forum Beef of The Year (2019)
Most Improved Text Battler (2019)
Text Battle of The Year (2019)
Best Track (2019)
Best Track Maker (2019)
Biggest Battle Upset (2019)
Forum King (2020)
Forum Beef of The Year (2020)
Audio Battle of The Year (2020)
Discord Battle Host Of The Year (2020)
Discord Beef of The Year (2020)
Best Track Maker (2020)
Tournament Hosting King (2020)
Member of The Year (2020)
Tournaments: Grand Champion Summer Throwdown Champion Spring Throwdown Champion
A broken car is still a broken car regardless of if you give it a fresh paint job.
We need to fix the site before worrying about what colour to paint it.
Voting power has been a good thing as it stops hate voters and general poor voters from stopping the best verse winning a battle.
If you were in a battle, and lost two votes to three, but your two votes were from respected members and the other three from new signee's you'd most likely be very unhappy.
Still with the activity level atm perhaps a voting power reset wouldnt be a bad idea?
Love you bro and I hope you know that so dont take this the wrong way. But I noticed you're only responding to those who's wither agreeing with you or won't put up a strong debate with you. You're shying away from the fact that there needs to be a new website as a whole or something VERY mobile friendly.
A broken car with a fresh paint job makes no sense, true but I won't know it's broken until I actually try to drive it. We need a new car as a whole. 0 miles on it. We can't keep touching up the 03 malibu with the same motor pretending it's going to last forever. You being one of the smartest guys on here should know that. Minimizing forums, worrying about who's deleting accounts, etc that's shit current members care about. No new members will give a damn if Punk deleted today. That's not gonna make him leave/stay.
You're original message is to make LB "look more appealing". You don't think changing the 2006 look makes the site look more appealing but removing a few categories do?
Letsbeef is running off of Vbulletin 3.8.... There's a whole 4 and 5. We're windows XP compared to Windows 11. Even if we wanted some new creative shit, we are very much limited because our current version does not support today's PHP.
All I'm saying is, we gotta realize that the forum days are over and we need to start evolving while we have a name still. There's a handful of guys who kept our name alive throughout the discord community (which Barzooka & I pushed to become what it is today then came along everyone else.) There wouldn't have been a Coronation card if we didn't eliminate tinychat and bring all of our issues and convos to a discord that wasn't active for a year.
The discord was POPPING while the site was completely dead. Why? Because it's today's form of communicating and battling online.
And also with account deletions. Yes some of us has done it. It's no different than when staff members disappear out of the blue leaving duties behind. (Not saying you) just saying literally no one complains about things like that. We all pick and choose.
There hasn't been a site leader here ever from my understanding. Most guys tske over for a couple of months, then they tire out fall back.
Look at everyone who's viewed the thread and look at everyone who's commented. It's mainly the new guys responding because the old heads understand where this thread is gonna go. Which is inside of the big ol archive of LB ideas that never gets done with the rest of them.
Me? I'm stubborn with nothing to do so I'm always here to give my ideas and feedback whenever anyone asks regardless of if it gets done or not. I just enjoy the conversation.
Like I said, you're my guy, you know it. That won't change. But come on bro. I'm sure you're not over there rocking the iPod nano because it has a touch sensitive bezel instead of just downloading Spotify.
No matter what you guys do I hope you all find a way to make this place work once again. Don't ever stop doing what you all love to do regardless of how dark things may seem to be. 🖤
I got a 1.73¢,made 3$dollars twooday and bought some tobacco smoke with 2$dollars haha my bank account empty no credit cards i m freestyle the money,since young money
No matter what you guys do I hope you all find a way to make this place work once again. Don't ever stop doing what you all love to do regardless of how dark things may seem to be. 🖤
I got a 1.73¢,made 3$dollars twooday and bought some tobacco smoke with 2$dollars haha my bank account empty no credit cards i m freestyle the money,since young money
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