Concepts

[Streetz De Hood]

A complex concept doesnt equal a hard hitting punchline

And

And a simple concept doesnt equal a soft punchline

Namsayin?

[Streetz De Hood]

A complex concept doesnt equal a hard hitting punchline

And

And a simple concept doesnt equal a soft punchline

Namsayin?

[X-Calibur]

Someone upset you with an expo ??

[X-Calibur]

Someone upset you with an expo ??

[Spooky Deep]

Hell yeah

I tried to explain that shit & motherfuckas failed to comprehend (maybe except for Askari)

Originally Posted by SpookyDeep

Nigga this is the problem I have being educated (beyond being an educated voter...I mean literaly fuckin educated) & actually understanding grammar terms...I could swear reading comprehension sucks on here & if you detect a sense of arrogance or anything like that you way off...

The sad thing about it is...I broke this shit down clearly and motherfuckas is still dumbfounded

With that said...

Of course concepts and punches are SUPPOSED to go together -I'm not pitting them against each other READ

'blah blah blah' like unfunny ass creative object

That's 98% of bars from people even folks considered the best on this site...

and under that assumption

'blah blah blah' is the concept right?

& 'unfunny ass creative object' is the punch, follow me?

My beef is how can an unfunny ass creative object be a punch

i.e. let's break down someone's bar just for more help folks

let em face a-round when I put his 'face, around one' like Washington ON-THE-DOLLAR-IS!!!
-reEFer

'face, around one' is the concept

& 'like Washington ON-THE-DOLLAR-IS' is the unfunny ass creative object

You see how the object is not really a punch...it's just naming something & the concept is the only thing KINDA nice about it

Which brings me to my main issue...there are so many battles (especially scheme battles) filled up wit this bullshit & people sit back & marvel at this shit

http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?p=861270

[Spooky Deep]

Hell yeah

I tried to explain that shit & motherfuckas failed to comprehend (maybe except for Askari)

Originally Posted by SpookyDeep

Nigga this is the problem I have being educated (beyond being an educated voter...I mean literaly fuckin educated) & actually understanding grammar terms...I could swear reading comprehension sucks on here & if you detect a sense of arrogance or anything like that you way off...

The sad thing about it is...I broke this shit down clearly and motherfuckas is still dumbfounded

With that said...

Of course concepts and punches are SUPPOSED to go together -I'm not pitting them against each other READ

'blah blah blah' like unfunny ass creative object

That's 98% of bars from people even folks considered the best on this site...

and under that assumption

'blah blah blah' is the concept right?

& 'unfunny ass creative object' is the punch, follow me?

My beef is how can an unfunny ass creative object be a punch

i.e. let's break down someone's bar just for more help folks

let em face a-round when I put his 'face, around one' like Washington ON-THE-DOLLAR-IS!!!
-reEFer

'face, around one' is the concept

& 'like Washington ON-THE-DOLLAR-IS' is the unfunny ass creative object

You see how the object is not really a punch...it's just naming something & the concept is the only thing KINDA nice about it

Which brings me to my main issue...there are so many battles (especially scheme battles) filled up wit this bullshit & people sit back & marvel at this shit

http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?p=861270

Complexity is the most overrated thing on the site. Unpredictability is a different thing all together.

Complexity is the most overrated thing on the site. Unpredictability is a different thing all together.

[Streetz De Hood]

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Someone upset you with an expo ??

Na. This has nothing to with me. More of an observation of the change on the battle scene.. When u look back at some of the original vets.. Their concepts were pretty simple but very hardhitting.. Now its like you see alot of complex concepts but the actual punches seem to be a lil weaker.. Its like we went from the "where are they goin with that...wait..OHHHHH SHIT!" Era..to the "oh shit I know where theyre going with this...wait..nevermind" era... If u get what im saying..

[Streetz De Hood]

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Someone upset you with an expo ??

Na. This has nothing to with me. More of an observation of the change on the battle scene.. When u look back at some of the original vets.. Their concepts were pretty simple but very hardhitting.. Now its like you see alot of complex concepts but the actual punches seem to be a lil weaker.. Its like we went from the "where are they goin with that...wait..OHHHHH SHIT!" Era..to the "oh shit I know where theyre going with this...wait..nevermind" era... If u get what im saying..

[X-Calibur]

Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

Na. This has nothing to with me. More of an observation of the change on the battle scene.. When u look back at some of the original vets.. Their concepts were pretty simple but very hardhitting.. Now its like you see alot of complex concepts but the actual punches seem to be a lil weaker.. Its like we went from the "where are they goin with that...wait..OHHHHH SHIT!" Era..to the "oh shit I know where theyre going with this...wait..nevermind" era... If u get what im saying..

Yeh makes sense but you have to think we got older and have read more and more shit so we can assume we know where a bar is going more now than we could back then when we hadnt read as much ya feel me ....

[X-Calibur]

Originally Posted by Streetz Da Hood

Na. This has nothing to with me. More of an observation of the change on the battle scene.. When u look back at some of the original vets.. Their concepts were pretty simple but very hardhitting.. Now its like you see alot of complex concepts but the actual punches seem to be a lil weaker.. Its like we went from the "where are they goin with that...wait..OHHHHH SHIT!" Era..to the "oh shit I know where theyre going with this...wait..nevermind" era... If u get what im saying..

Yeh makes sense but you have to think we got older and have read more and more shit so we can assume we know where a bar is going more now than we could back then when we hadnt read as much ya feel me ....

[ILLoKWENT]

Gotta remember .back then different concepts were still new and not played yet.. not to mention.. once again. A punchline doesnt always equate to concept to simile etc.. if u look at standup comedians.. they would look hella stupid tryin to be funny wit nothin but one liners filled with objects or adverbs and comparisons..

[ILLoKWENT]

Gotta remember .back then different concepts were still new and not played yet.. not to mention.. once again. A punchline doesnt always equate to concept to simile etc.. if u look at standup comedians.. they would look hella stupid tryin to be funny wit nothin but one liners filled with objects or adverbs and comparisons..