Should Mods VP be greater than 4?

[Askari]

Originally Posted by Unyqe

I dont think ones opinion should be drastically higher than anothers. Yes Mods are good voters but so are a lot of other voters on this site. When all voting comes down to opinion I find it unfair to put so much wieght on what someone thinks.

But mods don't always agree with each other; they're there as they're viewed as unbiased and judge based on the technical aspects of the verses and - of course - personal preference comes into it to an extent; two mods might vote for you while another two vote for your opponent. If 3 or 4 mods vote on your battle and all vote the same way then you can deduct that the person with the votes had the better verse.

The issue is someone/some groups of buddy's can be voting stupidly and for those they're cool with; if we have no evidence we can't delete the votes or lower vp's (without a clearly recurring pattern at least), so often the mod vote is exercised in making sure that votes reflect verses rather than popularity. I can guarantee most of yourself and the other active respectable heads have avoided L's due to mods dropping fair and unbiased votes. They have a higher VP because - in many cases - they have to.

RULE, myself, AfterThought, Just C, Phil, Jason etc are all in our positions - with higher VP's - because we've earned the right to have more influence in battles through experience and from proving over time that our votes are consistently fair, educated and technically based as far as possible (just like FVC, but with the credentials to merit full staff position). Preference only comes in when two verses are very technically sound and matched on all levels; it's a very small proportion of final decisions.

[Askari]

Originally Posted by Unyqe

I dont think ones opinion should be drastically higher than anothers. Yes Mods are good voters but so are a lot of other voters on this site. When all voting comes down to opinion I find it unfair to put so much wieght on what someone thinks.

But mods don't always agree with each other; they're there as they're viewed as unbiased and judge based on the technical aspects of the verses and - of course - personal preference comes into it to an extent; two mods might vote for you while another two vote for your opponent. If 3 or 4 mods vote on your battle and all vote the same way then you can deduct that the person with the votes had the better verse.

The issue is someone/some groups of buddy's can be voting stupidly and for those they're cool with; if we have no evidence we can't delete the votes or lower vp's (without a clearly recurring pattern at least), so often the mod vote is exercised in making sure that votes reflect verses rather than popularity. I can guarantee most of yourself and the other active respectable heads have avoided L's due to mods dropping fair and unbiased votes. They have a higher VP because - in many cases - they have to.

RULE, myself, AfterThought, Just C, Phil, Jason etc are all in our positions - with higher VP's - because we've earned the right to have more influence in battles through experience and from proving over time that our votes are consistently fair, educated and technically based as far as possible (just like FVC, but with the credentials to merit full staff position). Preference only comes in when two verses are very technically sound and matched on all levels; it's a very small proportion of final decisions.

[RULE]

Originally Posted by Askari

But mods don't always agree with each other; they're there as they're viewed as unbiased and judge based on the technical aspects of the verses and - of course - personal preference comes into it to an extent; two mods might vote for you while another two vote for your opponent. If 3 or 4 mods vote on your battle and all vote the same way then you can deduct that the person with the votes had the better verse.

The issue is someone/some groups of buddy's can be voting stupidly and for those they're cool with; if we have no evidence we can't delete the votes or lower vp's (without a clearly recurring pattern at least), so often the mod vote is exercised in making sure that votes reflect verses rather than popularity. I can guarantee most of yourself and the other active respectable heads have avoided L's due to mods dropping fair and unbiased votes. They have a higher VP because - in many cases - they have to.

RULE, myself, AfterThought, Just C, Phil, Jason etc are all in our positions - with higher VP's - because we've earned the right to have more influence in battles through experience and from proving over time that our votes are consistently fair, educated and technically based as far as possible (just like FVC, but with the credentials to merit full staff position). Preference only comes in when two verses are very technically sound and matched on all levels; it's a very small proportion of final decisions.

Fully agree.

[RULE]

Originally Posted by Askari

But mods don't always agree with each other; they're there as they're viewed as unbiased and judge based on the technical aspects of the verses and - of course - personal preference comes into it to an extent; two mods might vote for you while another two vote for your opponent. If 3 or 4 mods vote on your battle and all vote the same way then you can deduct that the person with the votes had the better verse.

The issue is someone/some groups of buddy's can be voting stupidly and for those they're cool with; if we have no evidence we can't delete the votes or lower vp's (without a clearly recurring pattern at least), so often the mod vote is exercised in making sure that votes reflect verses rather than popularity. I can guarantee most of yourself and the other active respectable heads have avoided L's due to mods dropping fair and unbiased votes. They have a higher VP because - in many cases - they have to.

RULE, myself, AfterThought, Just C, Phil, Jason etc are all in our positions - with higher VP's - because we've earned the right to have more influence in battles through experience and from proving over time that our votes are consistently fair, educated and technically based as far as possible (just like FVC, but with the credentials to merit full staff position). Preference only comes in when two verses are very technically sound and matched on all levels; it's a very small proportion of final decisions.

Fully agree.