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Unread 11-14-2012, 09:21 AM
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Default Concepts vs Punches

I would say just from reading people pay more attention to the concepts & not the punches...it seems like people's concepts are funnier or sting harder than their actually punches

Lemme break it down...

funny concept + unfunny object punch = average bar (average battle w/ long schemes)

In an ideal situation wouldn't you want?

funny concept + funny punch = crazy bar

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good concept + punch w/ sting = good bar

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Default Concepts vs Punches

I would say just from reading people pay more attention to the concepts & not the punches...it seems like people's concepts are funnier or sting harder than their actually punches

Lemme break it down...

funny concept + unfunny object punch = average bar (average battle w/ long schemes)

In an ideal situation wouldn't you want?

funny concept + funny punch = crazy bar

or

good concept + punch w/ sting = good bar

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Unread 11-14-2012, 10:09 AM
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i agree with u bud, sometimes a funny concept just isnt enough although i do find it the most important part of a bar
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i agree with u bud, sometimes a funny concept just isnt enough although i do find it the most important part of a bar
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Unread 11-14-2012, 10:45 AM
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So RULE you still gon call yourself PLK? or is it gon be CK now?

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So RULE you still gon call yourself PLK? or is it gon be CK now?

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ye but sometimes folk focus TOO MUCH on the concept and lose the flow, like one good concept wit a beefed up flow is gonna make me go "damn" before a bunch of good concepts mashed together in a choppy flow does ya know?
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ye but sometimes folk focus TOO MUCH on the concept and lose the flow, like one good concept wit a beefed up flow is gonna make me go "damn" before a bunch of good concepts mashed together in a choppy flow does ya know?
 
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Unread 11-14-2012, 11:43 AM
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Super-Heavyweight tho...
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Unread 11-14-2012, 12:37 PM
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

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also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

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also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
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Unread 11-14-2012, 12:37 PM
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 PM ----------

also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
Agree!
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

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also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
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Unread 11-14-2012, 05:48 PM
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

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also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
A concept can be a punch but if a concept is followed by the word "like" it's not a punch it's a setup

Like is a simile...a comparison indicator

Anything that follows like is supposed to be a damn punch...not some unfunny ass creative object

& that's my whole point
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concept is just a punchline that hasnt been worded yet in my book

---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 PM ----------

also here from how alot of my battles have been voted on text wise it's all bout the setup multies which is fucken stupid
A concept can be a punch but if a concept is followed by the word "like" it's not a punch it's a setup

Like is a simile...a comparison indicator

Anything that follows like is supposed to be a damn punch...not some unfunny ass creative object

& that's my whole point
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I agree Spook, I think a lot of people have this completely ass backwards.

Your concept should build to the punch. Although a concept can be dope on it's own if it's worded well, too many people (I've been guilty of this in the past) drag out a cool concept to the point where it becomes a wasted bar.

A lot of it is down to lazy editing and people letting egos dictate verses, rather than being self-critical, sacrificing impact for nothing more than a neat idea.
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I agree Spook, I think a lot of people have this completely ass backwards.

Your concept should build to the punch. Although a concept can be dope on it's own if it's worded well, too many people (I've been guilty of this in the past) drag out a cool concept to the point where it becomes a wasted bar.

A lot of it is down to lazy editing and people letting egos dictate verses, rather than being self-critical, sacrificing impact for nothing more than a neat idea.
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