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I assume you meant 4 there and my problem isn't with tenure itself but with how easy it is for teachers to get it and how hard it makes it to fire bad ones. Even teachers accused of awful things like sending sexually explicit e-mails to 16 year old students are almost impossible to get rid of. In fact, the teacher who actually did that in New York was placed on leave with pay (because of the Union) and kept the school in litigation for six years collecting $300,000 or so in pay.


Inflation on the American Dollar is absolutely crazy right now and the current system our money only has value from the belief that it has value. By returning to the gold standard and printing less money and destroying more old money we make each dollar worth more. And if you haven't noticed from all the commercials on TV lately gold is still rising in value. It almost always does.

The current system doesn't work. The current estimates are that there are millions of illegal immigrants crossing into our country and not even bothering to try and get a legal residency. This isn't good. No other country allows you to just walk into their country and do whatever you want (Go ahead and try to immigrate to Canada illegally. I guarantee they send your ass packing right back to America) and we shouldn't either. There should be consequences fitting the crime for those who break the law but we need to work out a way that makes it less costly (monetarily at least) to become an American citizen. There is one way already in that anyone from any country who comes into America and serves in its military automatically gains citizenship in the same way that they can marry an American and get it. We should encourage this and other methods for those that come here and don't break laws (Not selling drugs, murder, home invasion, etc etc.) so that they can become legal and proud US Citizens. The ones who do break the law should serve jail/prison time and be deported back.

Conscription serves several purposes but the best ones you'll go for are probably free college and health care. It would also drive down the prices of insurance for those who can't serve because the insurance companies would have to compete for a relatively small number of people.
Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.
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I assume you meant 4 there and my problem isn't with tenure itself but with how easy it is for teachers to get it and how hard it makes it to fire bad ones. Even teachers accused of awful things like sending sexually explicit e-mails to 16 year old students are almost impossible to get rid of. In fact, the teacher who actually did that in New York was placed on leave with pay (because of the Union) and kept the school in litigation for six years collecting $300,000 or so in pay.


Inflation on the American Dollar is absolutely crazy right now and the current system our money only has value from the belief that it has value. By returning to the gold standard and printing less money and destroying more old money we make each dollar worth more. And if you haven't noticed from all the commercials on TV lately gold is still rising in value. It almost always does.

The current system doesn't work. The current estimates are that there are millions of illegal immigrants crossing into our country and not even bothering to try and get a legal residency. This isn't good. No other country allows you to just walk into their country and do whatever you want (Go ahead and try to immigrate to Canada illegally. I guarantee they send your ass packing right back to America) and we shouldn't either. There should be consequences fitting the crime for those who break the law but we need to work out a way that makes it less costly (monetarily at least) to become an American citizen. There is one way already in that anyone from any country who comes into America and serves in its military automatically gains citizenship in the same way that they can marry an American and get it. We should encourage this and other methods for those that come here and don't break laws (Not selling drugs, murder, home invasion, etc etc.) so that they can become legal and proud US Citizens. The ones who do break the law should serve jail/prison time and be deported back.

Conscription serves several purposes but the best ones you'll go for are probably free college and health care. It would also drive down the prices of insurance for those who can't serve because the insurance companies would have to compete for a relatively small number of people.
Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.
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Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.
With the gold standard we could still lower the value of our money by just printing more of it. Let's create a hypothetical economy and say that that economy is based off of a thousand gold bars. Then you print enough of the currency, we'll call them simoleons, so that each sim represents one one hundredth of one of those gold bars. As long as you don't print anymore sims or only replace sims then those sims will retain basically the same value. If you just destroy a few of them then those sims represent a larger percentage of those gold bars and gain a higher value. If you print more of them then they represent a smaller portion and thus lose value. And when I say the "Gold Standard" I don't necessarily mean that we should use just gold. We could go to a bi or even trimetalism system where we could use gold, silver, platinum or other precious metals. Basically I just don't think that the value of our money should be decided by other countries.

I didn't mean to imply that we should stop people from immigrating here. This country is built on it and if we were to somehow shut off immigration we would surely go stale and die. I just meant that something has to be done so that people aren't coming and going all willy nilly like they do now with pretty much NO consequence.

You should keep in mind that our military doesn't just fight wars. It also builds shitty levies in New Orleans, and all kinds of other fun stuff. Plus, right now, I think we need as large a military as we can get because of the one war we forgot about (Afghanistan) and the one we should've never been in at all because a)There weren't any WMDs and b)Whether or not the dictator of another country halfway around the world is evil isn't any of America's business. We need a HUGE force in Afghanistan not just to fight but to help build hospitals, schools and things of that nature.
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Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.
With the gold standard we could still lower the value of our money by just printing more of it. Let's create a hypothetical economy and say that that economy is based off of a thousand gold bars. Then you print enough of the currency, we'll call them simoleons, so that each sim represents one one hundredth of one of those gold bars. As long as you don't print anymore sims or only replace sims then those sims will retain basically the same value. If you just destroy a few of them then those sims represent a larger percentage of those gold bars and gain a higher value. If you print more of them then they represent a smaller portion and thus lose value. And when I say the "Gold Standard" I don't necessarily mean that we should use just gold. We could go to a bi or even trimetalism system where we could use gold, silver, platinum or other precious metals. Basically I just don't think that the value of our money should be decided by other countries.

I didn't mean to imply that we should stop people from immigrating here. This country is built on it and if we were to somehow shut off immigration we would surely go stale and die. I just meant that something has to be done so that people aren't coming and going all willy nilly like they do now with pretty much NO consequence.

You should keep in mind that our military doesn't just fight wars. It also builds shitty levies in New Orleans, and all kinds of other fun stuff. Plus, right now, I think we need as large a military as we can get because of the one war we forgot about (Afghanistan) and the one we should've never been in at all because a)There weren't any WMDs and b)Whether or not the dictator of another country halfway around the world is evil isn't any of America's business. We need a HUGE force in Afghanistan not just to fight but to help build hospitals, schools and things of that nature.
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Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.


rofl.let me take a vacation to read that shit....in all that time u could av replied to my verse you knw?
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Absolutley there needs to be more accountability in schools.

And strongly disagreed about returning to the gold standard.

The problem is, that the worldwide economy is not set at a fixed price point, the way the gold standard is. Admittedly, the Gold standard is very good at keeping the dollar at a high, fixed flat rate, but that's exactly the problem.

Devaluing currency, in itself it not inherently bad. In fact, sometimes it's exactly what an economy needs.

Lets take the Mexican economy. following the "Mexican Miracle."

While not on a hard standard, lets just say that the Peso was holding a rather high price on the world economy.

Let's compare the peso to say..The yen. If, in....iono. 1970 the peso-yen exchange rate is 1-100 (one peso for 100 yen), and people in Japan buy Mexican products. The Mexican Miracle comes along, and the Peso goes up, since people are hedging on the Peso.
Suddenly, the Peso is at 1-130 by say, 1985, and then 1-150 by 1995.
(I'm just making these numbers up. the mexican miracle really did happen).

You just priced yourself out of the world market. Because your exchange rate is too high, you've artificially raised the price of your goods. You price yourself out of the world market.

In todays, keynsian world what would happen is a money de-valuation, where the country would deliberately devalue their currency to bring themselves back into world competition.

Why did I bring up Mexico for this??? The fucked up their devaluation, people got scared of them while they were still pricing themselves out of world markets, and their growing economy stagnated.

There are many other reasons NOT to to go the gold standard, including deflation, negative money multiplier, and many more. it is not the right idea.

In regards to immigration, I do think we have a growing problem, and something does need to be done.

I dont' have all the answers, but in my mind there is no fucking way were going to stop people from crossing our borders. Instead of trying to stop it, we should accept it and set up a national registry and identification system of everybody who comes across. Admittedly, some people cross and don't want to be found, and dealing iwth anybody w/o legal status should be severely punished.

The problem is that the standards are too high. Honestly, were asking for a level of education from many of these people that simply extends beyond what is often avaliable in their own countries.

Instead of trying to keep them out, we should allow people to work their way to citizenship (through a variety of ways, including education). When you know who people are, enforcing the law becomes a lot easier.

I don'thave all the answers in this regard, but I do know that trying to simply prevent people from coming doesn't work.

Forced conscription is a bad idea. True, it may drive down the cost of heath insurance, if marginally. But equipping a soldier is a hell of a lot more expensive than insuring a freaking 19 year old for four years. It's an insanely expensive measure, and would drive up taxes and other government expenses. I don't see the pro's to it. Your forcing a certain percentage of the population to put off their life and go work in an insanely expensive, probably unfruitful field. We already have an insanely large military, I don't know why it needs to get bigger. Military is already too much of our budget.

Fire away.


rofl.let me take a vacation to read that shit....in all that time u could av replied to my verse you knw?
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propose to illiminate the federal reserve and invest in our own un-monopolized banking systems, to rid us of all our high interest rate loans, inflation, recessions, as well as the power the federal reserve has over the United States due to overwhelming debt...


*put then again, i'd probably end up like jfk for speaking out about such things*
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propose to illiminate the federal reserve and invest in our own un-monopolized banking systems, to rid us of all our high interest rate loans, inflation, recessions, as well as the power the federal reserve has over the United States due to overwhelming debt...


*put then again, i'd probably end up like jfk for speaking out about such things*
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Before the federal reserve the American economy experienced dramatic economic recessions and booms.

Inflation is not bad. I don't know what people have against it. And inflating economy is adventageous to borrowers and buisnesses. A deflating economy will stagnate.

Our debt is NOT overwhelming. I'm not even sure if were in the top 50 yet in debt per GDP.

The Reserve was put in place to stop recession. Not that it's a perfect system, but not controlling the market would be disasterous.
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propose to illiminate the federal reserve and invest in our own un-monopolized banking systems, to rid us of all our high interest rate loans, inflation, recessions, as well as the power the federal reserve has over the United States due to overwhelming debt...


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Before the federal reserve the American economy experienced dramatic economic recessions and booms.

Inflation is not bad. I don't know what people have against it. And inflating economy is adventageous to borrowers and buisnesses. A deflating economy will stagnate.

Our debt is NOT overwhelming. I'm not even sure if were in the top 50 yet in debt per GDP.

The Reserve was put in place to stop recession. Not that it's a perfect system, but not controlling the market would be disasterous.
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