A QUESTION ABOUT VOTING.

[Seul]

I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.

[Seul]

I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Seul

I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.

SO IF THA CASE WAS -

WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER

WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Seul

I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.

SO IF THA CASE WAS -

WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER

WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by HVK

SO IF THA CASE WAS -

WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER

WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by HVK

SO IF THA CASE WAS -

WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER

WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by HVK

SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?

I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by HVK

SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?

I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol

VERY GOOD POINT ACTUALLY.... I SUPPOSE THEY WOULDNT BE ON THIS SITE IF THEY COULD LMAO

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol

VERY GOOD POINT ACTUALLY.... I SUPPOSE THEY WOULDNT BE ON THIS SITE IF THEY COULD LMAO

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.

You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent

If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.

It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.

You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent

If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Zodiac-5

It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.

You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent

If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.

My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.

[Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by Zodiac-5

It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.

You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent

If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.

My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.

But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

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Originally Posted by g u t s

also, fuck you eth. you're a clown. it takes more talent to perform? half of the people on this planet or born with swagger ot naturally good voices. the rest of us who have passion for that field have to practice every day and improve in small increments.

I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Edgeworth

My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.

But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------

Originally Posted by g u t s

also, fuck you eth. you're a clown. it takes more talent to perform? half of the people on this planet or born with swagger ot naturally good voices. the rest of us who have passion for that field have to practice every day and improve in small increments.

I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Zodiac-5

But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

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I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.

ONE OF YOUR BETTER POSTS THIS YEAR DUDE...... IM ACTUALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH ALOT OF WHAT YOU SAID.

OUT OF INTEREST, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAS THERE EVER BEEN A SCOTTISH RAPPER WHO CAME CLOSE TO MAKIN IT IN RAP? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT SOME ACCENTS PPL HAVE REALLY HURT THEIR ABILITY TO FLOW, IM NOT DISSIN THA SCOTTISH ACCENT BUT IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

I REMEMBER @UNKNOWN ARTIST MADE HIS YOUWISH ACCOUNT AN HE WAS SCOTTISH BUT PUT ON AN AMERICAN ACCENT TO FLY UNDER THA RADAR, AN HE ACTUALLY SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD, BUT HE MUST OF TRIED IT IN HIS OWN ACCENT FIRST AN NOT LIKED WHAT HE HEARD.

[HVK]

Originally Posted by Zodiac-5

But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------



I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.

ONE OF YOUR BETTER POSTS THIS YEAR DUDE...... IM ACTUALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH ALOT OF WHAT YOU SAID.

OUT OF INTEREST, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAS THERE EVER BEEN A SCOTTISH RAPPER WHO CAME CLOSE TO MAKIN IT IN RAP? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT SOME ACCENTS PPL HAVE REALLY HURT THEIR ABILITY TO FLOW, IM NOT DISSIN THA SCOTTISH ACCENT BUT IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

I REMEMBER @UNKNOWN ARTIST MADE HIS YOUWISH ACCOUNT AN HE WAS SCOTTISH BUT PUT ON AN AMERICAN ACCENT TO FLY UNDER THA RADAR, AN HE ACTUALLY SOUNDED PRETTY GOOD, BUT HE MUST OF TRIED IT IN HIS OWN ACCENT FIRST AN NOT LIKED WHAT HE HEARD.