Should there be a crew member limit?

Originally Posted by Row

yes lmfao. im thinking twice about this shit now. really, everyone can get on the same page and just keep crew sizes small. it really is that simple. especially now since its just gaycees and acockalypse that have like +15 members

My intent is kind of for crews to be treated more like team sports, long term. Maybe even with a league/standings.(A crew draft, too, maybe? Which has been proposed before.)

But, for that to work, there need to be a lot of them, and they need to be SMALL. 6 members, tops. 1 leader, 2 captains, 3 members. AT MOST 9 members, but, I even think that's a stretch. 2 leaders, 3 captains, 4 members.

Additionally, though, for that to work, there also has to be some degree of moderation, or oversight for the numbers in the crews. Because ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on this site is ever going to be on "the same page."

---------- Post added at 01:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Why donit forum based that’s a bit pre-historic

The exclusive arena is under utilised as there is no benifit to battling in there ...

If there was prizes for being the top emcee every month in that arena like emcee items or credits or some shit it’d jump off ....

Same for crew battles if the system was to allow t to work properly and a ranking system was integrated correctly who wouldn’t want the bragging rights of being the top crew ....

Forums is good for now but I did this a while back was even made a forum mod to do it don’t you remember it’s just such a massive workload to maintain its unreal

I think the system if executed correctly could make it very attractive ....


For instance in the exclusive arena if someone was to make a crown or some shit for the emcee items the top exclusive battler could wear that every month and then get it taken from their emcee or like a crown a royal robe and a staff made of gold ....


I don’t know these are just ideas I’m pitching ....

But crews is massive if the system supports it ...

I’m massively against it going to forums ....

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Says the guy who tried to recruit some of us when we moved house ....

Truth be told yall just don’t like the fact APOC and AC’s are more relevant than your crew Hahahahahaha

Workload is activity. You want members to participate, then give them a way to participate. The crew forums are there(and they work), and crews can set up their OWN crew battles. They don't need a mod to do it. Maybe just to oversee numbers, and record wins. But, that's literally it. If you want people to use the site, there have to be things for them to do on the site to occupy their time.

Originally Posted by Row

yes lmfao. im thinking twice about this shit now. really, everyone can get on the same page and just keep crew sizes small. it really is that simple. especially now since its just gaycees and acockalypse that have like +15 members

My intent is kind of for crews to be treated more like team sports, long term. Maybe even with a league/standings.(A crew draft, too, maybe? Which has been proposed before.)

But, for that to work, there need to be a lot of them, and they need to be SMALL. 6 members, tops. 1 leader, 2 captains, 3 members. AT MOST 9 members, but, I even think that's a stretch. 2 leaders, 3 captains, 4 members.

Additionally, though, for that to work, there also has to be some degree of moderation, or oversight for the numbers in the crews. Because ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on this site is ever going to be on "the same page."

---------- Post added at 01:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Why donit forum based that’s a bit pre-historic

The exclusive arena is under utilised as there is no benifit to battling in there ...

If there was prizes for being the top emcee every month in that arena like emcee items or credits or some shit it’d jump off ....

Same for crew battles if the system was to allow t to work properly and a ranking system was integrated correctly who wouldn’t want the bragging rights of being the top crew ....

Forums is good for now but I did this a while back was even made a forum mod to do it don’t you remember it’s just such a massive workload to maintain its unreal

I think the system if executed correctly could make it very attractive ....


For instance in the exclusive arena if someone was to make a crown or some shit for the emcee items the top exclusive battler could wear that every month and then get it taken from their emcee or like a crown a royal robe and a staff made of gold ....


I don’t know these are just ideas I’m pitching ....

But crews is massive if the system supports it ...

I’m massively against it going to forums ....

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------



Says the guy who tried to recruit some of us when we moved house ....

Truth be told yall just don’t like the fact APOC and AC’s are more relevant than your crew Hahahahahaha

Workload is activity. You want members to participate, then give them a way to participate. The crew forums are there(and they work), and crews can set up their OWN crew battles. They don't need a mod to do it. Maybe just to oversee numbers, and record wins. But, that's literally it. If you want people to use the site, there have to be things for them to do on the site to occupy their time.

X-Calisperm you were only relevant like 1 month or two ago, after a year of being m.i.a., only bound to go back under the ground for a next couple of months, return and repeat. HVK really brought apoc to life,, and even that will be temporary.

how much crew of the year awards did apoc win?

i'd wait, but youre a joke so, i wont.

X-Calisperm you were only relevant like 1 month or two ago, after a year of being m.i.a., only bound to go back under the ground for a next couple of months, return and repeat. HVK really brought apoc to life,, and even that will be temporary.

how much crew of the year awards did apoc win?

i'd wait, but youre a joke so, i wont.

Originally Posted by Row

lol you were only relevant like 1 month or two ago, after a year of being m.i.a., only bound to go back under the ground for a next couple of months, return and repeat.

how much crew of the year awards did apoc win?

i'd wait, but youre a joke so, i wont.

Lol. At least quote him, fam.

Originally Posted by Row

lol you were only relevant like 1 month or two ago, after a year of being m.i.a., only bound to go back under the ground for a next couple of months, return and repeat.

how much crew of the year awards did apoc win?

i'd wait, but youre a joke so, i wont.

Lol. At least quote him, fam.

Originally Posted by Rant

Lol. At least quote him, fam.

lol shit,


& i think its best to put the flexibility of the site over anything... this would only limit it

Originally Posted by Rant

Lol. At least quote him, fam.

lol shit,


& i think its best to put the flexibility of the site over anything... this would only limit it

Originally Posted by Row

lol shit,


& i think its best to put the flexibility of the site over anything... this would only limit it

That's true, but, if it's member regulated(E.G. through a mod.) then it CAN be flexible, and dependent upon not only the interest in the concept, but, also site activity. Limits being raised or lowered during peaks and valleys in activity for example. Or suspended for 'off seasons' as another example.

Originally Posted by Row

lol shit,


& i think its best to put the flexibility of the site over anything... this would only limit it

That's true, but, if it's member regulated(E.G. through a mod.) then it CAN be flexible, and dependent upon not only the interest in the concept, but, also site activity. Limits being raised or lowered during peaks and valleys in activity for example. Or suspended for 'off seasons' as another example.

[NOBLE]

Its a good idea for our present circumstances where our membership is low and we want to create as many voting opportunities as possible. Being in crews reduces the number of battles you can vote on, so this proposal is very logical.

[NOBLE]

Its a good idea for our present circumstances where our membership is low and we want to create as many voting opportunities as possible. Being in crews reduces the number of battles you can vote on, so this proposal is very logical.

[Shodan]

It's a good idea. I think there should be a maximum of 10 members, tops. 8 might be better. I think 6 would be too restrictive.

[Shodan]

It's a good idea. I think there should be a maximum of 10 members, tops. 8 might be better. I think 6 would be too restrictive.

Why not do a draft?

Every crew leader agrees to disband all members, except maybe 2 leaders, and 1 captain.

Everyone else gets sent to the draft pool. Every crew starts with their preferred 3, and then builds from there until every crew has 8. That'll be the limit.

Or just leave it how it is and have AC's sitting at the top of the pyramid

Why not do a draft?

Every crew leader agrees to disband all members, except maybe 2 leaders, and 1 captain.

Everyone else gets sent to the draft pool. Every crew starts with their preferred 3, and then builds from there until every crew has 8. That'll be the limit.

Or just leave it how it is and have AC's sitting at the top of the pyramid

There's two sides to it. It depends on the crew direction.


I used to get a lot of abuse about the crew size of ACs and Chloro. We had maybe 30 members combined at one stage. Everyone hated it. But before ACs, did anyone honestly give a fuck about a Manhattan or ILLoKWENT vote? Did anyone care about Crysis or Shodan? It became an issue because these guys became great voters BECAUSE of their affiliation to the crew. It seems these days, everyone wants to work on developing a next tier. No one is trying to Murda Muzik / LoD their way through this now.

I get where voting can be rough, and it's always been something I've had to navigate. But if we have a solid set of 10 active guys, then I'm not about to start cutting promising people and leave them to go inactive just because of a weird rule.

There's two sides to it. It depends on the crew direction.


I used to get a lot of abuse about the crew size of ACs and Chloro. We had maybe 30 members combined at one stage. Everyone hated it. But before ACs, did anyone honestly give a fuck about a Manhattan or ILLoKWENT vote? Did anyone care about Crysis or Shodan? It became an issue because these guys became great voters BECAUSE of their affiliation to the crew. It seems these days, everyone wants to work on developing a next tier. No one is trying to Murda Muzik / LoD their way through this now.

I get where voting can be rough, and it's always been something I've had to navigate. But if we have a solid set of 10 active guys, then I'm not about to start cutting promising people and leave them to go inactive just because of a weird rule.

Bump.

Bump.