Higgs Boson aka ''God Particle''

[Obey]

I've been reading a good amount about this today. Supposedly the company ''CERN'' is attempting to recreate the Big Bang using this? Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson both stated this could blow the Planet and Space into smithereens. Anyone have any thoughts on this, I find it awesome something like this was found. It's basically the cause of everything around us.. Does this help the Religious side of the argument, or what?

[Obey]

I've been reading a good amount about this today. Supposedly the company ''CERN'' is attempting to recreate the Big Bang using this? Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson both stated this could blow the Planet and Space into smithereens. Anyone have any thoughts on this, I find it awesome something like this was found. It's basically the cause of everything around us.. Does this help the Religious side of the argument, or what?

[Mindless]

I just....

Turn off your computer and never touch it again.

[Mindless]

I just....

Turn off your computer and never touch it again.

[NOBLE]

It's a theoretical particle, which means they're not even 100% sure it exists yet. That's why they're conducting these experiments to find and hopefully measure it. At first, I was also concerned about the idea of smashing subatomic particles at each other at high speed because I always assumed that was a factor in nuclear explosions with atoms splitting and all. But I think the scientists conducting these experiments figured that this must happen in nature at all times. With so many particles in the universe travelling in various directions, they probably smash into each other all the time and we're still here. If Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson think it could blow us to bits, then that's definitely something to consider.

[NOBLE]

It's a theoretical particle, which means they're not even 100% sure it exists yet. That's why they're conducting these experiments to find and hopefully measure it. At first, I was also concerned about the idea of smashing subatomic particles at each other at high speed because I always assumed that was a factor in nuclear explosions with atoms splitting and all. But I think the scientists conducting these experiments figured that this must happen in nature at all times. With so many particles in the universe travelling in various directions, they probably smash into each other all the time and we're still here. If Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson think it could blow us to bits, then that's definitely something to consider.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Mindless

I just....

Turn off your computer and never touch it again.

Why, because I'm curious about something and wanted input on a matter I'm not to sure about? That seems 100% accurate, thanks for your usual irrelevant input on something.

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Originally Posted by NOBLE

It's a theoretical particle, which means they're not even 100% sure it exists yet. That's why they're conducting these experiments to find and hopefully measure it. At first, I was also concerned about the idea of smashing subatomic particles at each other at high speed because I always assumed that was a factor in nuclear explosions with atoms splitting and all. But I think the scientists conducting these experiments figured that this must happen in nature at all times. With so many particles in the universe travelling in various directions, they probably smash into each other all the time and we're still here. If Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson think it could blow us to bits, then that's definitely something to consider.

It's frightening to think something could collapse space. Supposedly the machine they're using can not produce enough energy to cause such a huge catastrophe, but in due time I'm sure it's a possibility. Supposedly the generator of such force would have to be the size of Earth. But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Mindless

I just....

Turn off your computer and never touch it again.

Why, because I'm curious about something and wanted input on a matter I'm not to sure about? That seems 100% accurate, thanks for your usual irrelevant input on something.

---------- Post added at 06:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:08 PM ----------

Originally Posted by NOBLE

It's a theoretical particle, which means they're not even 100% sure it exists yet. That's why they're conducting these experiments to find and hopefully measure it. At first, I was also concerned about the idea of smashing subatomic particles at each other at high speed because I always assumed that was a factor in nuclear explosions with atoms splitting and all. But I think the scientists conducting these experiments figured that this must happen in nature at all times. With so many particles in the universe travelling in various directions, they probably smash into each other all the time and we're still here. If Stephen Hawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson think it could blow us to bits, then that's definitely something to consider.

It's frightening to think something could collapse space. Supposedly the machine they're using can not produce enough energy to cause such a huge catastrophe, but in due time I'm sure it's a possibility. Supposedly the generator of such force would have to be the size of Earth. But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

They have only, to this date, postulated the observation of the Higgs Boson, with the assumption that they have measured it under laboratory settings at least one time.(It has not yet been proven that this was, in fact the particle that they observed. It may have been any number of unknown particles in the universe.)

They have only, to this date, postulated the observation of the Higgs Boson, with the assumption that they have measured it under laboratory settings at least one time.(It has not yet been proven that this was, in fact the particle that they observed. It may have been any number of unknown particles in the universe.)

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

I'm not sure what it would say about the possibility of the supernatural. I think us discovering the Higgs Boson won't necessarily entail us understanding it fully. On one hand, there is nothing "supernatural" to science. What may have once been "supernatural" ceases to be so in light of scientific explanation, so if/when the Higgs Boson is discovered, it won't bolster the possibility of the supernatural but would rather shatter it. On the other hand, "supernatural" simply means that which we haven't explained yet, so yes, discovering the Higgs Boson may re-affirm the possibility of the supernatural because it would probably lead to more questions than answers. Science itself has a limit because it concerns itself with mainly what is objective, measurable and quantifiable.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

I'm not sure what it would say about the possibility of the supernatural. I think us discovering the Higgs Boson won't necessarily entail us understanding it fully. On one hand, there is nothing "supernatural" to science. What may have once been "supernatural" ceases to be so in light of scientific explanation, so if/when the Higgs Boson is discovered, it won't bolster the possibility of the supernatural but would rather shatter it. On the other hand, "supernatural" simply means that which we haven't explained yet, so yes, discovering the Higgs Boson may re-affirm the possibility of the supernatural because it would probably lead to more questions than answers. Science itself has a limit because it concerns itself with mainly what is objective, measurable and quantifiable.

It's frightening to think something could collapse space. Supposedly the machine they're using can not produce enough energy to cause such a huge catastrophe, but in due time I'm sure it's a possibility. Supposedly the generator of such force would have to be the size of Earth. But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

The Higgs Boson is not responsible for matter. The Higgs Boson is a particle created through the excitation of a fourth dimensional Higgs Field. This field, is what gives particles their mass, due to its spin along the strong, and weak forces. Or some such nonsense.

It's frightening to think something could collapse space. Supposedly the machine they're using can not produce enough energy to cause such a huge catastrophe, but in due time I'm sure it's a possibility. Supposedly the generator of such force would have to be the size of Earth. But, in your opinion.. if this is what they claim the ''God particle'' and the cause of all matter, etc.. does this give a better look into the possibility of the ''supernatural'' or is it just another step for Science to conduct how everything was formed?

The Higgs Boson is not responsible for matter. The Higgs Boson is a particle created through the excitation of a fourth dimensional Higgs Field. This field, is what gives particles their mass, due to its spin along the strong, and weak forces. Or some such nonsense.

[Mindless]

@Obey

1. CERN is not a company.
2. There's no way in hell Hawking or Degrasse Tyson said any such thing because anything created in LHC is going to last barely a fraction of a fraction of a second before disappearing.
3. It doesn't matter what it means to religion as far as "proof" goes because even if it were definitive proof either way people are still going to believe what they want to believe.

I was telling you to stop because your post was filled with drek. Not just to be irreverent. I'm not sure what you're reading to get your information but you should probably find some better sources. I highly suggest Scientific American, Discover and PopSci.

[Mindless]

@Obey

1. CERN is not a company.
2. There's no way in hell Hawking or Degrasse Tyson said any such thing because anything created in LHC is going to last barely a fraction of a fraction of a second before disappearing.
3. It doesn't matter what it means to religion as far as "proof" goes because even if it were definitive proof either way people are still going to believe what they want to believe.

I was telling you to stop because your post was filled with drek. Not just to be irreverent. I'm not sure what you're reading to get your information but you should probably find some better sources. I highly suggest Scientific American, Discover and PopSci.

Originally Posted by Mindless

@Obey

1. CERN is not a company.
2. There's no way in hell Hawking or Degrasse Tyson said any such thing because anything created in LHC is going to last barely a fraction of a fraction of a second before disappearing.
3. It doesn't matter what it means to religion as far as "proof" goes because even if it were definitive proof either way people are still going to believe what they want to believe.

I was telling you to stop because your post was filled with drek. Not just to be irreverent. I'm not sure what you're reading to get your information but you should probably find some better sources. I highly suggest Scientific American, Discover and PopSci.

Or, you know, not being an idiot.

Edit:

To expound further on Mindless' third point.

The term "God" particle has no connotation regarding the effects of this particle on the universe, or religion. This term was coined due to the elusivity of this theoretical particle.

Originally Posted by Mindless

@Obey

1. CERN is not a company.
2. There's no way in hell Hawking or Degrasse Tyson said any such thing because anything created in LHC is going to last barely a fraction of a fraction of a second before disappearing.
3. It doesn't matter what it means to religion as far as "proof" goes because even if it were definitive proof either way people are still going to believe what they want to believe.

I was telling you to stop because your post was filled with drek. Not just to be irreverent. I'm not sure what you're reading to get your information but you should probably find some better sources. I highly suggest Scientific American, Discover and PopSci.

Or, you know, not being an idiot.

Edit:

To expound further on Mindless' third point.

The term "God" particle has no connotation regarding the effects of this particle on the universe, or religion. This term was coined due to the elusivity of this theoretical particle.