Shouldn't have bought Skyrim again...

[V3numb]

Originally Posted by Dave

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

actually.. you can build a stronger pc than a console for ike 400-500..

and no.. shooters on pc is actually a lot more hardcore compared to console as well
ppl play way more than just MMOs, i mean that may be what you see but it's evolved way beyond that tbh

i mean yeah pc has better graphics but Steam (online store for games and server that runs games) has MASSIVE SALES, they sold Dead Space 3 for "$1" alongside 2 other games i think just for the community, and off the bat most games are cheaper than a console as welll (PC) 50$ vs 60$ (console), if those things dont bother you then cool stick with a console then

also i like the fact you can mod games : /, FPS and graphics takes the cake for me.. if im playing a SHooter like Titanfall i need me my frames on point for my headshots or else it's gona be some BS me shooting across the map and it was a miliframe off or some shit, while games like metal gear revengeance or mainly DMC.. i need my frames on point in order to keep my combos fluent (and i have DMC for my ps3 too.. and believe me my combos are wayyyy more sync)





pc= room for improvement, and potential to surpass from the get go,



console - prebuild and you're stuck with everything it came with.. cant swap anything out, they are just plug+play easily conveyance is all





in the end they are becoming more and more alike, but will never be equl do to the freedom of pc, while consoles company's are greedy and will give you w.e they can for w.e deals they can work out between cheap suppliers and productions

[V3numb]

Originally Posted by Dave

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

actually.. you can build a stronger pc than a console for ike 400-500..

and no.. shooters on pc is actually a lot more hardcore compared to console as well
ppl play way more than just MMOs, i mean that may be what you see but it's evolved way beyond that tbh

i mean yeah pc has better graphics but Steam (online store for games and server that runs games) has MASSIVE SALES, they sold Dead Space 3 for "$1" alongside 2 other games i think just for the community, and off the bat most games are cheaper than a console as welll (PC) 50$ vs 60$ (console), if those things dont bother you then cool stick with a console then

also i like the fact you can mod games : /, FPS and graphics takes the cake for me.. if im playing a SHooter like Titanfall i need me my frames on point for my headshots or else it's gona be some BS me shooting across the map and it was a miliframe off or some shit, while games like metal gear revengeance or mainly DMC.. i need my frames on point in order to keep my combos fluent (and i have DMC for my ps3 too.. and believe me my combos are wayyyy more sync)





pc= room for improvement, and potential to surpass from the get go,



console - prebuild and you're stuck with everything it came with.. cant swap anything out, they are just plug+play easily conveyance is all





in the end they are becoming more and more alike, but will never be equl do to the freedom of pc, while consoles company's are greedy and will give you w.e they can for w.e deals they can work out between cheap suppliers and productions

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Dave

I never got what ANY of the extra stuff like graphics card info is important. It's better? Cool....how though?

I've played Metal Gear Solid on a HD wide screen on my PS3. Not freezing, no nothing. In which way are PC gamers improving on this?

PC gaming is cool if you're a MMO kind of guy. But all that fantasy Runescape WOW whatever stuff isn't really for me. My computer doesnt freeze and gives me what seem to be crystal clear graphics of an incredible level (depending on the game). Why do I need anything else?

Well, pretty much every computer in the world come with the components that are listed in the link above. You can just interchange parts with desktops like legos essentially. You want stuff to open faster? Upgrade your processor. You want better graphics and smoother gameplay in your video games? Upgrade your graphics card. You want more memory? Upgrade your hard-drive. Want your computer to boot things up in a fraction of a second? Get an SSD. A "gaming computer" is just higher quality versions of the components every computer has. You can just buy a shitty ass dell desktop and put gaming pc parts into it.

As for the MGS3 thing, essentially, and I'm aware of how cocky this sounds, it would be better all around providing you had the rig I linked. That graphics card I linked would make it play at about 70 FPS, which you can just google the differences between PS3 FPS and a quality gaming PC FPS and it'll give you a side-by-side screen to see how much better that is. Also, having it on a PC opens up the opportunity for a much wider array of mesh and texture implementations, meaning that the graphics themselves would be in more detail/clearer on the PC. You'd be able to play it "faster" because of the ram that the computer I linked has. There's so much more I'm finding it hard to even pinpoint the highlights. You can get ENB's for the game, you can get certain beneficial addons for the game because it's on the PC format, pretty much you can just do about anything. You could easily just plug a PS3 controller into the PC too, if you prefer that.

Not to mention that for the same price as the PS3 you can get all the other benefits an actual computer gives, which is an automatic deal-breaker for me.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Dave

I never got what ANY of the extra stuff like graphics card info is important. It's better? Cool....how though?

I've played Metal Gear Solid on a HD wide screen on my PS3. Not freezing, no nothing. In which way are PC gamers improving on this?

PC gaming is cool if you're a MMO kind of guy. But all that fantasy Runescape WOW whatever stuff isn't really for me. My computer doesnt freeze and gives me what seem to be crystal clear graphics of an incredible level (depending on the game). Why do I need anything else?

Well, pretty much every computer in the world come with the components that are listed in the link above. You can just interchange parts with desktops like legos essentially. You want stuff to open faster? Upgrade your processor. You want better graphics and smoother gameplay in your video games? Upgrade your graphics card. You want more memory? Upgrade your hard-drive. Want your computer to boot things up in a fraction of a second? Get an SSD. A "gaming computer" is just higher quality versions of the components every computer has. You can just buy a shitty ass dell desktop and put gaming pc parts into it.

As for the MGS3 thing, essentially, and I'm aware of how cocky this sounds, it would be better all around providing you had the rig I linked. That graphics card I linked would make it play at about 70 FPS, which you can just google the differences between PS3 FPS and a quality gaming PC FPS and it'll give you a side-by-side screen to see how much better that is. Also, having it on a PC opens up the opportunity for a much wider array of mesh and texture implementations, meaning that the graphics themselves would be in more detail/clearer on the PC. You'd be able to play it "faster" because of the ram that the computer I linked has. There's so much more I'm finding it hard to even pinpoint the highlights. You can get ENB's for the game, you can get certain beneficial addons for the game because it's on the PC format, pretty much you can just do about anything. You could easily just plug a PS3 controller into the PC too, if you prefer that.

Not to mention that for the same price as the PS3 you can get all the other benefits an actual computer gives, which is an automatic deal-breaker for me.

[Fredo Lombardi]

Dark Brotherhood

[Fredo Lombardi]

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[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Crysis

You can mod consoles to a certain extent with either iso discs or USB modding, but it is completely impossible to input mods that add all new content/textures to a console because their platform doesn't support any new meshes/textures/content that exceed the limits of the original game. That, and modding a game for the xbox breaks it's service rights code, and breaches rules under piracy (Which is complete bullshit.) and if you are caught doing so you will be banned. It's bullshit, and only attests to how terrible the service is.

The fact that the modding community for skyrim is so extensive definitely makes the game better. It's literally like getting an unlimited supply of DLC for free at any time, and even being able to create personalized DLC for yourself/friends with an easy to use creation kit. I mean, there were mods for Skyrim DLC that did the exact same things the DLC did (I'm talking about hearthfire, that made you have the ability to make a home.) months before it came out, and those mods were even free & didn't have the same bullshit limits..

Modding plays a definite role on bettering a game. Which would you rather play?

A game where new and fresh content is defined by overpriced DLC that the developers come out with maybe twice a year?

Or a game where new and fresh content is defined by thousands of people in the community constantly pumping out ever evolving content that you can get completely for free with the click of a button, that come out literally hundreds of times a week?

I'll let you choose.

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Crysis

You can mod consoles to a certain extent with either iso discs or USB modding, but it is completely impossible to input mods that add all new content/textures to a console because their platform doesn't support any new meshes/textures/content that exceed the limits of the original game. That, and modding a game for the xbox breaks it's service rights code, and breaches rules under piracy (Which is complete bullshit.) and if you are caught doing so you will be banned. It's bullshit, and only attests to how terrible the service is.

The fact that the modding community for skyrim is so extensive definitely makes the game better. It's literally like getting an unlimited supply of DLC for free at any time, and even being able to create personalized DLC for yourself/friends with an easy to use creation kit. I mean, there were mods for Skyrim DLC that did the exact same things the DLC did (I'm talking about hearthfire, that made you have the ability to make a home.) months before it came out, and those mods were even free & didn't have the same bullshit limits..

Modding plays a definite role on bettering a game. Which would you rather play?

A game where new and fresh content is defined by overpriced DLC that the developers come out with maybe twice a year?

Or a game where new and fresh content is defined by thousands of people in the community constantly pumping out ever evolving content that you can get completely for free with the click of a button, that come out literally hundreds of times a week?

I'll let you choose.

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Just C

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

Oh okay, yeah, then I definitely agree with you on the point that it doesn't grant the developers kudos. Sorry for that

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Just C

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

Oh okay, yeah, then I definitely agree with you on the point that it doesn't grant the developers kudos. Sorry for that

[Godbody]

skimmed the thread briefly

Crysis is right when he says PC shit on consoles... Thats where all the hardcore gamers are. I'm a casual gamer though. The console is just fine for me. Plus the other multi-media functions they provide @ such a good price point for the average consumer just appeals to a lot of us that can't be fucked learning about building PCs and all these specs and hardware etc etc

Sometimes you just wanna take your bong rip, or drink your beer, and casually game


Battlefield is probably the game I play the most on my PS4 and they'll be the first to admit shits way crazier on PC as far as graphics/what the PC can handle and amount of people that play.

[Godbody]

skimmed the thread briefly

Crysis is right when he says PC shit on consoles... Thats where all the hardcore gamers are. I'm a casual gamer though. The console is just fine for me. Plus the other multi-media functions they provide @ such a good price point for the average consumer just appeals to a lot of us that can't be fucked learning about building PCs and all these specs and hardware etc etc

Sometimes you just wanna take your bong rip, or drink your beer, and casually game


Battlefield is probably the game I play the most on my PS4 and they'll be the first to admit shits way crazier on PC as far as graphics/what the PC can handle and amount of people that play.

I owned assassins creed black flag (Over a couple months now) for my ps4, and I haven't even touched it yet. 2k and Infamous have too much replay.

I owned assassins creed black flag (Over a couple months now) for my ps4, and I haven't even touched it yet. 2k and Infamous have too much replay.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Dave

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

Sorry but... my PC was bought for £399. I fitted a better graphics card for an extra £85 and this shit runs like an oil refinery.

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Originally Posted by Fredo Lombardi

Dark Brotherhood

Dark elf marksman arcane-assassin/rogue build FTW.

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Originally Posted by Just C

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

Spot on really.

As for saying that it's a dire game based on its bare bones is definitely subjective. Dependent on what sort of experience you expect from gaming, Skyrim is going to lend more reward towards those who appreciate magnificent detail at the cost of shoddy voice acting. I don't mind the Austrian/Norwegian twang.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Dave

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

Sorry but... my PC was bought for £399. I fitted a better graphics card for an extra £85 and this shit runs like an oil refinery.

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Originally Posted by Fredo Lombardi

Dark Brotherhood

Dark elf marksman arcane-assassin/rogue build FTW.

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Originally Posted by Just C

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

Spot on really.

As for saying that it's a dire game based on its bare bones is definitely subjective. Dependent on what sort of experience you expect from gaming, Skyrim is going to lend more reward towards those who appreciate magnificent detail at the cost of shoddy voice acting. I don't mind the Austrian/Norwegian twang.

This is like my argument about HD all over again.


Can someone show me how, in any way, a PC has such amazing different graphics? Pulse just said Battlefield Xbox gets shit on by PC in terms of graphics. Someone show me this astounding comparison video...

This is like my argument about HD all over again.


Can someone show me how, in any way, a PC has such amazing different graphics? Pulse just said Battlefield Xbox gets shit on by PC in terms of graphics. Someone show me this astounding comparison video...

[RULE]

KOTOR & Fallout 3 > Skyrim

Not a bad game tho.

[RULE]

KOTOR & Fallout 3 > Skyrim

Not a bad game tho.