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Cena has been one of the worst things in wrestling for a while, and by absolutely NO means is it his fault. The guy has lost two clean matches that I have in my entire memory.
1. Daniel Bryan - Lost the title seconds later.
2. The Rock - Lost to Cena next match.
If they use Cena in the manner that they use every talent, it'd be fine. But no, Cena has to be this super hero who is more about being "real" than being a character. This is a fucking soap opera, it's the exact place for characters. Cena should have had a heel turn a long time ago. I mean, I loved The Rock as a kid, my absolute hero. If I was a side kick, dying in hospital, I'd ask for that to be the dude I meet in my Make a Wish. Does that mean that he should never have Hollywood Rock'd us? Hell no.
Give Cena some time off. Make Daniel Bryan injure him badly. Something big. Then, bring Cena back months later when Bryan is up against a group of some sort. Have Cena clean house with him, then have Cena smash him. I don't care if he goes super Cena again, give the guy the ability to be a character and be a proper professional wrestler.
His matches can be awesome. I loved Cena Vs Lesnar and Bryan. He isn't the most athletic or technical wrestler, but his matches have fuck loads of passion in them and the dude took more of a beating against Lesnar than I've seen any non garbage wrestling dude take in a long time. But he can't be the same squeaky clean dude forever. Against Bryan, he actually adopted the role of being the bad guy in it a bit. Slapping Bryan and telling him to slap him back and shit. Make Cena the bad guy, and the dude's rep as a wrestler sky rockets.
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Cena has been one of the worst things in wrestling for a while, and by absolutely NO means is it his fault. The guy has lost two clean matches that I have in my entire memory.
1. Daniel Bryan - Lost the title seconds later.
2. The Rock - Lost to Cena next match.
If they use Cena in the manner that they use every talent, it'd be fine. But no, Cena has to be this super hero who is more about being "real" than being a character. This is a fucking soap opera, it's the exact place for characters. Cena should have had a heel turn a long time ago. I mean, I loved The Rock as a kid, my absolute hero. If I was a side kick, dying in hospital, I'd ask for that to be the dude I meet in my Make a Wish. Does that mean that he should never have Hollywood Rock'd us? Hell no.
Give Cena some time off. Make Daniel Bryan injure him badly. Something big. Then, bring Cena back months later when Bryan is up against a group of some sort. Have Cena clean house with him, then have Cena smash him. I don't care if he goes super Cena again, give the guy the ability to be a character and be a proper professional wrestler.
His matches can be awesome. I loved Cena Vs Lesnar and Bryan. He isn't the most athletic or technical wrestler, but his matches have fuck loads of passion in them and the dude took more of a beating against Lesnar than I've seen any non garbage wrestling dude take in a long time. But he can't be the same squeaky clean dude forever. Against Bryan, he actually adopted the role of being the bad guy in it a bit. Slapping Bryan and telling him to slap him back and shit. Make Cena the bad guy, and the dude's rep as a wrestler sky rockets.
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03-28-2014, 09:12 PM
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Should I get into this? I always thought of it as some laughably fake kids thing, but you guys seem really interested so I'm probably wrong. What's up with it?
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03-28-2014, 09:12 PM
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Should I get into this? I always thought of it as some laughably fake kids thing, but you guys seem really interested so I'm probably wrong. What's up with it?
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03-28-2014, 09:13 PM
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03-28-2014, 09:13 PM
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03-28-2014, 09:16 PM
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Forgot about Tommy Dreamer. My dad took me to an ECW match when I was real young, don't remember much but ECW was fucking awesome. Sand Man was always up there in favorites for me.
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I never cared much for The Sandman. He wrestled an entire match practically unconscious once, though.
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03-28-2014, 09:16 PM
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Forgot about Tommy Dreamer. My dad took me to an ECW match when I was real young, don't remember much but ECW was fucking awesome. Sand Man was always up there in favorites for me.
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I never cared much for The Sandman. He wrestled an entire match practically unconscious once, though.
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We all know Cena will never turn heel.
I'd love it if Bryan was booked to dominate at WM while Cena puts over Wyatt and gets 'kidnapped'. Wyatt makes Cena's bad side come out and he ends up being the Authority's Guy instead of Orton.
But that'll never happen
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We all know Cena will never turn heel.
I'd love it if Bryan was booked to dominate at WM while Cena puts over Wyatt and gets 'kidnapped'. Wyatt makes Cena's bad side come out and he ends up being the Authority's Guy instead of Orton.
But that'll never happen
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Cena has been one of the worst things in wrestling for a while, and by absolutely NO means is it his fault. The guy has lost two clean matches that I have in my entire memory.
1. Daniel Bryan - Lost the title seconds later.
2. The Rock - Lost to Cena next match.
If they use Cena in the manner that they use every talent, it'd be fine. But no, Cena has to be this super hero who is more about being "real" than being a character. This is a fucking soap opera, it's the exact place for characters. Cena should have had a heel turn a long time ago. I mean, I loved The Rock as a kid, my absolute hero. If I was a side kick, dying in hospital, I'd ask for that to be the dude I meet in my Make a Wish. Does that mean that he should never have Hollywood Rock'd us? Hell no.
Give Cena some time off. Make Daniel Bryan injure him badly. Something big. Then, bring Cena back months later when Bryan is up against a group of some sort. Have Cena clean house with him, then have Cena smash him. I don't care if he goes super Cena again, give the guy the ability to be a character and be a proper professional wrestler.
His matches can be awesome. I loved Cena Vs Lesnar and Bryan. He isn't the most athletic or technical wrestler, but his matches have fuck loads of passion in them and the dude took more of a beating against Lesnar than I've seen any non garbage wrestling dude take in a long time. But he can't be the same squeaky clean dude forever. Against Bryan, he actually adopted the role of being the bad guy in it a bit. Slapping Bryan and telling him to slap him back and shit. Make Cena the bad guy, and the dude's rep as a wrestler sky rockets.
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Aside from being a corn fed behemoth, do you know why Lesnar kicked the shit out of, and was so stiff with Cena? It's because Cena doesn't know how to sell a move. Lol. When someone you're working a match with refuses to sell a move, it frustrates you. That's what happens in a lot of Cena's matches. Take when Lesnar busted Cena's mouth open when he returned for example. If you watch the clip, you can see how pissed Lesnar gets when Cena isn't selling the punches. So, he gives him a couple stiff ones.
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Cena has been one of the worst things in wrestling for a while, and by absolutely NO means is it his fault. The guy has lost two clean matches that I have in my entire memory.
1. Daniel Bryan - Lost the title seconds later.
2. The Rock - Lost to Cena next match.
If they use Cena in the manner that they use every talent, it'd be fine. But no, Cena has to be this super hero who is more about being "real" than being a character. This is a fucking soap opera, it's the exact place for characters. Cena should have had a heel turn a long time ago. I mean, I loved The Rock as a kid, my absolute hero. If I was a side kick, dying in hospital, I'd ask for that to be the dude I meet in my Make a Wish. Does that mean that he should never have Hollywood Rock'd us? Hell no.
Give Cena some time off. Make Daniel Bryan injure him badly. Something big. Then, bring Cena back months later when Bryan is up against a group of some sort. Have Cena clean house with him, then have Cena smash him. I don't care if he goes super Cena again, give the guy the ability to be a character and be a proper professional wrestler.
His matches can be awesome. I loved Cena Vs Lesnar and Bryan. He isn't the most athletic or technical wrestler, but his matches have fuck loads of passion in them and the dude took more of a beating against Lesnar than I've seen any non garbage wrestling dude take in a long time. But he can't be the same squeaky clean dude forever. Against Bryan, he actually adopted the role of being the bad guy in it a bit. Slapping Bryan and telling him to slap him back and shit. Make Cena the bad guy, and the dude's rep as a wrestler sky rockets.
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Aside from being a corn fed behemoth, do you know why Lesnar kicked the shit out of, and was so stiff with Cena? It's because Cena doesn't know how to sell a move. Lol. When someone you're working a match with refuses to sell a move, it frustrates you. That's what happens in a lot of Cena's matches. Take when Lesnar busted Cena's mouth open when he returned for example. If you watch the clip, you can see how pissed Lesnar gets when Cena isn't selling the punches. So, he gives him a couple stiff ones.
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The only good match Anderson has had since joining TNA was Vs Angle when he first joined, and not long after that was forgotten about because Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness) outshined him by a long shot.
Most underrated wrestlers in the world right now are David Hart Smith and Tyson Kidd.
If you're not counting fan knowledge, and only WWE shows, Adrian Neville (PAC) and Sami Zayn (El Generico). They are in NXT are working their way up so nothing bad though.
Most underrated wrestler of all time was when Okada worked as a Green Lantern rip off camera man for TNA.
From this to this in 5 months is incredible.
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The only good match Anderson has had since joining TNA was Vs Angle when he first joined, and not long after that was forgotten about because Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness) outshined him by a long shot.
Most underrated wrestlers in the world right now are David Hart Smith and Tyson Kidd.
If you're not counting fan knowledge, and only WWE shows, Adrian Neville (PAC) and Sami Zayn (El Generico). They are in NXT are working their way up so nothing bad though.
Most underrated wrestler of all time was when Okada worked as a Green Lantern rip off camera man for TNA.
From this to this in 5 months is incredible.
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you beat me to it.. :o
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you beat me to it.. :o
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We all know Cena will never turn heel.
I'd love it if Bryan was booked to dominate at WM while Cena puts over Wyatt and gets 'kidnapped'. Wyatt makes Cena's bad side come out and he ends up being the Authority's Guy instead of Orton.
But that'll never happen
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That will almost happen imo.
No way on earth is Bryan losing to HHH. It's just, so mind numbingly obvious. HHH will also take a hell of a beating to put over Bryan. The match will be close but man, Bryan will fuck him up physically in real life.
Bryan SHOULD then go on to overcome the odds and win the title, which he rightfully should.
Cena will almost defo lost to the Wyatts I think, but it won't be clean which is the suck part. He'll also avenge the loss.
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Aside from being a corn fed behemoth, do you know why Lesnar kicked the shit out of, and was so stiff with Cena? It's because Cena doesn't know how to sell a move. Lol. When someone you're working a match with refuses to sell a move, it frustrates you. That's what happens in a lot of Cena's matches. Take when Lesnar busted Cena's mouth open when he returned for example. If you watch the clip, you can see how pissed Lesnar gets when Cena isn't selling the punches. So, he gives him a couple stiff ones.
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I don't agree with you about Lesnar. Lesnar doesn't give a shit about looking like a beast anymore. He turns up, collects a paycheck, and leaves. You think the dude who got challenged to a fight by Taker after losing his UFC title would want to lose WM to the same guy if he gave a shit about that stuff?
Lesnar was NUTS in that fight. I mean, the dude went for a clothesline and ended up on his neck OUTSIDE the ring. Like a month later he ran into a ring post with HHH so hard he bust himself opened. It was also like the first elbow from Lesnar that ripped Cena opened. The time before it was a stupid knee. Cena's always been okay at selling imo. Maybe sometimes in a bit of a stupid comical way, but hey, didn't someone say Ric Flair?
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We all know Cena will never turn heel.
I'd love it if Bryan was booked to dominate at WM while Cena puts over Wyatt and gets 'kidnapped'. Wyatt makes Cena's bad side come out and he ends up being the Authority's Guy instead of Orton.
But that'll never happen
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That will almost happen imo.
No way on earth is Bryan losing to HHH. It's just, so mind numbingly obvious. HHH will also take a hell of a beating to put over Bryan. The match will be close but man, Bryan will fuck him up physically in real life.
Bryan SHOULD then go on to overcome the odds and win the title, which he rightfully should.
Cena will almost defo lost to the Wyatts I think, but it won't be clean which is the suck part. He'll also avenge the loss.
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Originally Posted by Jack Skellington
Aside from being a corn fed behemoth, do you know why Lesnar kicked the shit out of, and was so stiff with Cena? It's because Cena doesn't know how to sell a move. Lol. When someone you're working a match with refuses to sell a move, it frustrates you. That's what happens in a lot of Cena's matches. Take when Lesnar busted Cena's mouth open when he returned for example. If you watch the clip, you can see how pissed Lesnar gets when Cena isn't selling the punches. So, he gives him a couple stiff ones.
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I don't agree with you about Lesnar. Lesnar doesn't give a shit about looking like a beast anymore. He turns up, collects a paycheck, and leaves. You think the dude who got challenged to a fight by Taker after losing his UFC title would want to lose WM to the same guy if he gave a shit about that stuff?
Lesnar was NUTS in that fight. I mean, the dude went for a clothesline and ended up on his neck OUTSIDE the ring. Like a month later he ran into a ring post with HHH so hard he bust himself opened. It was also like the first elbow from Lesnar that ripped Cena opened. The time before it was a stupid knee. Cena's always been okay at selling imo. Maybe sometimes in a bit of a stupid comical way, but hey, didn't someone say Ric Flair?
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