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Old 10-22-2018, 12:57 PM
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You don't need trackouts for beats but it definitely helps for your vocals to sit in the mix. You won't get the same quality you will at home because 1) the engineer knows how to mix better than you 2) they have way better equipment
Depends on the sound he’s looking for and how much space the instruments take up on a compressed beat because simply using an mp3/wav file you can still tell you used a mp3/wav file. You can hear it clear as day, no matter how GREAT it may sound.
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You don't need trackouts for beats but it definitely helps for your vocals to sit in the mix. You won't get the same quality you will at home because 1) the engineer knows how to mix better than you 2) they have way better equipment
Depends on the sound he’s looking for and how much space the instruments take up on a compressed beat because simply using an mp3/wav file you can still tell you used a mp3/wav file. You can hear it clear as day, no matter how GREAT it may sound.
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:43 PM
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Depends on the sound he’s looking for and how much space the instruments take up on a compressed beat because simply using an mp3/wav file you can still tell you used a mp3/wav file. You can hear it clear as day, no matter how GREAT it may sound.
Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
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Depends on the sound he’s looking for and how much space the instruments take up on a compressed beat because simply using an mp3/wav file you can still tell you used a mp3/wav file. You can hear it clear as day, no matter how GREAT it may sound.
Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:33 PM
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Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
Agreed with this.
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Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:44 AM
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You don't need trackouts for beats but it definitely helps for your vocals to sit in the mix. You won't get the same quality you will at home because 1) the engineer knows how to mix better than you 2) they have way better equipment
Word up, this is what i thought gee. Like i thought studio would be better then house equipment, man i was a pro with cool edit pro but i cant seem to get that anymore for free ye i know its audition now, but.. man walks into studio throws down some cash an be'z like make my tracks sound radio quality, then spits on the beats, i thought thats how it a go down, but i guess not.. Punk says no. Yea i know how to make dope tracks an good quality stuff sound quality wise but still... prolly not as good as people who have a whole studio and do that shit as a job every day.. anyways.. sup blue hows lyf.

BTW what is "trackouts" bro i just get it off youtube, i got heaps of beats, r u telling me that if u go into a studio with an mp3 file beat that when they go to use it, it like all fucks up an sounds shit?

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If you’re using a beat from YouTube, make sure you visit the producers website to purchase or get the stems to the beat so it can be properly mixed and mastered for CD/Digital quality. Don’t just take him an mp3 file beat and expect it to turn out golden because it’s been compressed already. How? Because it’s in mp3 format all together. Whatever he’s going to do to that beat st the studio you’ll most likely be able to do at your home.
Hmmm... i would have thought they would know how to do shit.

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You think Supsie would be capable of the type of EQ, and other mixing a trained professional would be? Lol.

You might be able to. Hell, maybe even I'd be able to. But, Supsie?

....Doubtful.
Ur fucking garbage at tracks rant what r u even talking bout, im more better with tracks den u.

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Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
Again wtf is "track outs"... iv got tracks written up, iv got like two whole mixtapes written up lyrics to beats.. from youtube, but i aint got nothing to record with and all that anymore, well i do but not pro shit like i use to, so i was just thinking why fuck around buying all the equipment an paying monthy to use a program to record when u can just go studio an have like a real proper quality CD/ album made even with a cover an all that.. graphic designs an stuff too.. no what i mean?

Appreciate all ur feedback guys.. but not you rant..

Last edited by Supsie; 10-23-2018 at 02:48 AM.
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You don't need trackouts for beats but it definitely helps for your vocals to sit in the mix. You won't get the same quality you will at home because 1) the engineer knows how to mix better than you 2) they have way better equipment
Word up, this is what i thought gee. Like i thought studio would be better then house equipment, man i was a pro with cool edit pro but i cant seem to get that anymore for free ye i know its audition now, but.. man walks into studio throws down some cash an be'z like make my tracks sound radio quality, then spits on the beats, i thought thats how it a go down, but i guess not.. Punk says no. Yea i know how to make dope tracks an good quality stuff sound quality wise but still... prolly not as good as people who have a whole studio and do that shit as a job every day.. anyways.. sup blue hows lyf.

BTW what is "trackouts" bro i just get it off youtube, i got heaps of beats, r u telling me that if u go into a studio with an mp3 file beat that when they go to use it, it like all fucks up an sounds shit?

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If you’re using a beat from YouTube, make sure you visit the producers website to purchase or get the stems to the beat so it can be properly mixed and mastered for CD/Digital quality. Don’t just take him an mp3 file beat and expect it to turn out golden because it’s been compressed already. How? Because it’s in mp3 format all together. Whatever he’s going to do to that beat st the studio you’ll most likely be able to do at your home.
Hmmm... i would have thought they would know how to do shit.

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Originally Posted by Rant View Post
You think Supsie would be capable of the type of EQ, and other mixing a trained professional would be? Lol.

You might be able to. Hell, maybe even I'd be able to. But, Supsie?

....Doubtful.
Ur fucking garbage at tracks rant what r u even talking bout, im more better with tracks den u.

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Originally Posted by Bleu View Post
Word mixing with track outs is always better so as long as the engineer knows what they're doing. But it's not a necessity to get good/great mixing. You're just not gonna get the best possible mix without track outs.

For any upcoming artist that doesn't even have a catalogue to begin with I'd def suggest skipping on paying for track outs off the bat. You might just waste a bunch of bread for nothing in the end. You're better off dropping music with decent quality, saving some money and building your fan base / catalogue at the beginning. Just my insight/opinion though
Again wtf is "track outs"... iv got tracks written up, iv got like two whole mixtapes written up lyrics to beats.. from youtube, but i aint got nothing to record with and all that anymore, well i do but not pro shit like i use to, so i was just thinking why fuck around buying all the equipment an paying monthy to use a program to record when u can just go studio an have like a real proper quality CD/ album made even with a cover an all that.. graphic designs an stuff too.. no what i mean?

Appreciate all ur feedback guys.. but not you rant..

Last edited by Supsie; 10-23-2018 at 02:48 AM.
 
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:05 PM
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Word up, this is what i thought gee. Like i thought studio would be better then house equipment, man i was a pro with cool edit pro but i cant seem to get that anymore for free ye i know its audition now, but.. man walks into studio throws down some cash an be'z like make my tracks sound radio quality, then spits on the beats, i thought thats how it a go down, but i guess not.. Punk says no. Yea i know how to make dope tracks an good quality stuff sound quality wise but still... prolly not as good as people who have a whole studio and do that shit as a job every day.. anyways.. sup blue hows lyf.

BTW what is "trackouts" bro i just get it off youtube, i got heaps of beats, r u telling me that if u go into a studio with an mp3 file beat that when they go to use it, it like all fucks up an sounds shit?



Hmmm... i would have thought they would know how to do shit.



Ur fucking garbage at tracks rant what r u even talking bout, im more better with tracks den u.



Again wtf is "track outs"... iv got tracks written up, iv got like two whole mixtapes written up lyrics to beats.. from youtube, but i aint got nothing to record with and all that anymore, well i do but not pro shit like i use to, so i was just thinking why fuck around buying all the equipment an paying monthy to use a program to record when u can just go studio an have like a real proper quality CD/ album made even with a cover an all that.. graphic designs an stuff too.. no what i mean?

Appreciate all ur feedback guys.. but not you rant..
I can get you a torrent for a decent DAW. Pretty much anything you want. Pro Tools, Studio One, Reaper. I'm not sure about Cool Edit though

In the long run buying your own shit is probably more cost effective but a studio is definitely convenient. Track outs are basically the project file for a beat.. So each instrument / VST is on a track of it's own which lets you can customize the mix on the beat for what you're trying to do with your vocals on the track. With an mp3 you have no control over the mix of the beat just the mix of your vocals over the beat.
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Word up, this is what i thought gee. Like i thought studio would be better then house equipment, man i was a pro with cool edit pro but i cant seem to get that anymore for free ye i know its audition now, but.. man walks into studio throws down some cash an be'z like make my tracks sound radio quality, then spits on the beats, i thought thats how it a go down, but i guess not.. Punk says no. Yea i know how to make dope tracks an good quality stuff sound quality wise but still... prolly not as good as people who have a whole studio and do that shit as a job every day.. anyways.. sup blue hows lyf.

BTW what is "trackouts" bro i just get it off youtube, i got heaps of beats, r u telling me that if u go into a studio with an mp3 file beat that when they go to use it, it like all fucks up an sounds shit?



Hmmm... i would have thought they would know how to do shit.



Ur fucking garbage at tracks rant what r u even talking bout, im more better with tracks den u.



Again wtf is "track outs"... iv got tracks written up, iv got like two whole mixtapes written up lyrics to beats.. from youtube, but i aint got nothing to record with and all that anymore, well i do but not pro shit like i use to, so i was just thinking why fuck around buying all the equipment an paying monthy to use a program to record when u can just go studio an have like a real proper quality CD/ album made even with a cover an all that.. graphic designs an stuff too.. no what i mean?

Appreciate all ur feedback guys.. but not you rant..
I can get you a torrent for a decent DAW. Pretty much anything you want. Pro Tools, Studio One, Reaper. I'm not sure about Cool Edit though

In the long run buying your own shit is probably more cost effective but a studio is definitely convenient. Track outs are basically the project file for a beat.. So each instrument / VST is on a track of it's own which lets you can customize the mix on the beat for what you're trying to do with your vocals on the track. With an mp3 you have no control over the mix of the beat just the mix of your vocals over the beat.
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:07 AM
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I can get you a torrent for a decent DAW. Pretty much anything you want. Pro Tools, Studio One, Reaper. I'm not sure about Cool Edit though
BRO HOLD UP how did i miss this, yea get it for me dawg if u can, that b dope..
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I can get you a torrent for a decent DAW. Pretty much anything you want. Pro Tools, Studio One, Reaper. I'm not sure about Cool Edit though
BRO HOLD UP how did i miss this, yea get it for me dawg if u can, that b dope..
 
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BRO HOLD UP how did i miss this, yea get it for me dawg if u can, that b dope..
Which program do you want?
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BRO HOLD UP how did i miss this, yea get it for me dawg if u can, that b dope..
Which program do you want?
 
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Which program do you want?
Cool edit pro, or audition which is the New cool edit pro if possible. Or any that are very similar to it, because that's the one I knew all the tricks too. Thanks Bleu. One that is real good an simple to use (like cool edit was)
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