ILLMANIA 4: Track Battle - SuperGuy Vs Mani Mula Vs Punk

Originally Posted by Mani Mula

Your record not even approachable nigga gtfo

Oh, look. More talk... No action. Shocker.

Originally Posted by Mani Mula

Your record not even approachable nigga gtfo

Oh, look. More talk... No action. Shocker.

[FiNAL WoRD]

Lean wit it rock with it ass mufucka

[FiNAL WoRD]

Lean wit it rock with it ass mufucka

JUST WAIT ON IT!!

MIGOS!

But on the real, my diss tracks dropping soon folks XD

JUST WAIT ON IT!!

MIGOS!

But on the real, my diss tracks dropping soon folks XD

[GRizzEAT]

hol up hol up hol up


WE DEM BOIZ!!!!!

[GRizzEAT]

hol up hol up hol up


WE DEM BOIZ!!!!!

[Óðinn]

All these beats are nice. #1 or #5 though

[Óðinn]

All these beats are nice. #1 or #5 though

[Mani Mula]

Mani Mula Illmania4 Entry

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

[Mani Mula]

Mani Mula Illmania4 Entry

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

[RULE]

ILLMANIA 4 Track Battle

SuperGuy Vs Mani Mula Vs Punk

SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Biggest issues to me is clearly the recording quality. Mixing skills are lacking, and the overall presentation from a production point of view took away from the song majorly."

"track was smooth, lyricwise, his delivery was on point, was gettin a lil bored tho midway thru"

"Most creative concept track-wise. I felt that the attitude and approach was very lethargic and vague, added to the atmosphere of the track but most certainly took away from the listening experience - it was more haunting than stimulating."

" i didnt get alot out of that song. to make a song like that successful its gotta be insane lyrically cus its so chilled out.. i dont think he captured that "

"The song itself, quality issues aside, was very good. I liked the aussie delivery and tone, made the song pretty unique. The content was thought-provoking, enjoyed the storytelling vibe, although the wording was a little forced in places"


Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"The mixing on the hook seemed a bit off, thats the main issue that stood out to me. The delivery was very strong, and the content was impactful with the beef vibe."

"The first thing that strikes me is the hook-line "I'm walking away with a victory"... It was grazing to the eardrums due to the intense repetitiveness and monotony. It seemed to stick out like a jagged jigsaw piece."

"Mani did what he does .. he'd have a decent shot at some mainstream success.. i agree with what you said about his hook being a lil bit off .. ive heard some great hooks from him but that wasnt one of them "

"beat was nice and agressive, delivery was dope, lyrically, definately suited for this type of crew contest.."

"Overall it just felt like the track was a little short as far as content went, i just dont think there was enough content to push this track into 'great' territory."


Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Delivery on the hook seemed a little rushed to me, was kinda hurt the strength of it. There seemed to be a vocal effect on it which i think was meant to make the hook seem more preachy but came off oddly robotic."

"I liked the warm and enlightening feel to this track. I felt that Punk connected with his beat the most and interacted with in a way that gave it a professional appeal."

"Punk fuckin killed it .. easily the best track of the 3 imo .. that boy crazy with it .. thats the only track id listen to more than once .. hes talented .. its obvious when you listen"

"Some areas suffered in terms of flow and delivery, the hook being a prime suspect. "

"There was definitely a number of highlights in the verse, with the story-telling vibe working perfectly with the production."


The Verdict

Voting closed after the first four judges all voted the same way, the feeling as a group was that SuperGuy's track was held down mostly due to its recording quality, although the judges opinion differed on the quality of the content with two enjoying the theme and complexity while the other two found it to be below avergae based on similar tracks of the same type. Mani's track was widely regarded as a great radio-friendly song, although criminally short on quality lines and the hook was overall rated as below average, yet catchy. Punk's hook was equally viewed as a bit off delivery wise, but the content was praised lyrically and on a delivery level.

The judges unanimous vote goes to Punk of Legion Of Doom.

1/

[RULE]

ILLMANIA 4 Track Battle

SuperGuy Vs Mani Mula Vs Punk

SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Biggest issues to me is clearly the recording quality. Mixing skills are lacking, and the overall presentation from a production point of view took away from the song majorly."

"track was smooth, lyricwise, his delivery was on point, was gettin a lil bored tho midway thru"

"Most creative concept track-wise. I felt that the attitude and approach was very lethargic and vague, added to the atmosphere of the track but most certainly took away from the listening experience - it was more haunting than stimulating."

" i didnt get alot out of that song. to make a song like that successful its gotta be insane lyrically cus its so chilled out.. i dont think he captured that "

"The song itself, quality issues aside, was very good. I liked the aussie delivery and tone, made the song pretty unique. The content was thought-provoking, enjoyed the storytelling vibe, although the wording was a little forced in places"


Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"The mixing on the hook seemed a bit off, thats the main issue that stood out to me. The delivery was very strong, and the content was impactful with the beef vibe."

"The first thing that strikes me is the hook-line "I'm walking away with a victory"... It was grazing to the eardrums due to the intense repetitiveness and monotony. It seemed to stick out like a jagged jigsaw piece."

"Mani did what he does .. he'd have a decent shot at some mainstream success.. i agree with what you said about his hook being a lil bit off .. ive heard some great hooks from him but that wasnt one of them "

"beat was nice and agressive, delivery was dope, lyrically, definately suited for this type of crew contest.."

"Overall it just felt like the track was a little short as far as content went, i just dont think there was enough content to push this track into 'great' territory."


Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Delivery on the hook seemed a little rushed to me, was kinda hurt the strength of it. There seemed to be a vocal effect on it which i think was meant to make the hook seem more preachy but came off oddly robotic."

"I liked the warm and enlightening feel to this track. I felt that Punk connected with his beat the most and interacted with in a way that gave it a professional appeal."

"Punk fuckin killed it .. easily the best track of the 3 imo .. that boy crazy with it .. thats the only track id listen to more than once .. hes talented .. its obvious when you listen"

"Some areas suffered in terms of flow and delivery, the hook being a prime suspect. "

"There was definitely a number of highlights in the verse, with the story-telling vibe working perfectly with the production."


The Verdict

Voting closed after the first four judges all voted the same way, the feeling as a group was that SuperGuy's track was held down mostly due to its recording quality, although the judges opinion differed on the quality of the content with two enjoying the theme and complexity while the other two found it to be below avergae based on similar tracks of the same type. Mani's track was widely regarded as a great radio-friendly song, although criminally short on quality lines and the hook was overall rated as below average, yet catchy. Punk's hook was equally viewed as a bit off delivery wise, but the content was praised lyrically and on a delivery level.

The judges unanimous vote goes to Punk of Legion Of Doom.

1/

[Mani Mula]

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ILLMANIA 4 Track Battle

SuperGuy Vs Mani Mula Vs Punk

SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Biggest issues to me is clearly the recording quality. Mixing skills are lacking, and the overall presentation from a production point of view took away from the song majorly."

Ok lets not forget we are not recording in professional studios, as long as the lyrics are clear enough to understand recording quality shouldnt be judged , in that case who has the better mic damn near a Automatic Winner

"track was smooth, lyricwise, his delivery was on point, was gettin a lil bored tho midway thru"

"Most creative concept track-wise. I felt that the attitude and approach was very lethargic and vague, added to the atmosphere of the track but most certainly took away from the listening experience - it was more haunting than stimulating."

" i didnt get alot out of that song. to make a song like that successful its gotta be insane lyrically cus its so chilled out.. i dont think he captured that "

"The song itself, quality issues aside, was very good. I liked the aussie delivery and tone, made the song pretty unique. The content was thought-provoking, enjoyed the storytelling vibe, although the wording was a little forced in places"

So Based off Your Votes Super guy had Nice "Content" and "Story telling" and got critiqued on his "Recording Quality"


Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"The mixing on the hook seemed a bit off, thats the main issue that stood out to me. The delivery was very strong, and the content was impactful with the beef vibe."

"The first thing that strikes me is the hook-line "I'm walking away with a victory"... It was grazing to the eardrums due to the intense repetitiveness and monotony. It seemed to stick out like a jagged jigsaw piece."

This vote clearly covers one aspect of the track, U didnt like the Hook/Bridge but dont mention anyting else...hmmm

"Mani did what he does .. he'd have a decent shot at some mainstream success.. i agree with what you said about his hook being a lil bit off .. ive heard some great hooks from him but that wasnt one of them "

Yet another vote where all that is explained is what u dont like about the hook/bridge is this a track battle or Battle of the Hooks?

"beat was nice and agressive, delivery was dope, lyrically, definately suited for this type of crew contest.."

This is a much more detailed Vote I respect this

"Overall it just felt like the track was a little short as far as content went, i just dont think there was enough content to push this track into 'great' territory."

Another vote where u pick one aspect, Its a Diss track how much "Content" does it need, Crews were Named, Opponents were Named, the point was made...


Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Delivery on the hook seemed a little rushed to me, was kinda hurt the strength of it. There seemed to be a vocal effect on it which i think was meant to make the hook seem more preachy but came off oddly robotic."

Another vote about how much u like the Hook smh, thats one aspect of a track

"I liked the warm and enlightening feel to this track. I felt that Punk connected with his beat the most and interacted with in a way that gave it a professional appeal."


"Punk fuckin killed it .. easily the best track of the 3 imo .. that boy crazy with it .. thats the only track id listen to more than once .. hes talented .. its obvious when you listen"

Now on a "professional" voting panel some1 tell me this dont sound like a Dickriding vote, this isnt a detailed vote at all

"Some areas suffered in terms of flow and delivery, the hook being a prime suspect. "

"There was definitely a number of highlights in the verse, with the story-telling vibe working perfectly with the production."


The Verdict

Voting closed after the first four judges all voted the same way, the feeling as a group was that SuperGuy's track was held down mostly due to its recording quality, although the judges opinion differed on the quality of the content with two enjoying the theme and complexity while the other two found it to be below avergae based on similar tracks of the same type. Mani's track was widely regarded as a great radio-friendly song, although criminally short on quality lines and the hook was overall rated as below average, yet catchy. Punk's hook was equally viewed as a bit off delivery wise, but the content was praised lyrically and on a delivery level.

This Verdict Makes no Sense, This is WHY I stated there needs to be a point system or something, With different Categories, It basically states u can have a dope track but if ya recording quality aint A1 Fuck It(Superguy), If you have dope Verses but we dont like the hook/bridge Fuck yo Verses(Mani Mula), But when u get to punk u state his Hook was off(Which u all care so deeply about) but the content was dope lyrically and on a delivery level ???

I cant put my finger on what was really being Judged here , No quotes, No Strengths were really listed, No point system to compare categories...Basically what I stated would happen in my previous post happened, u got 3 different types of tracks, with 3 dfferent beats, and tried to compare them, Thats not possible, Which Is why I stated they all shoulda been diss tracks, Guys who like Topicals will see Superguy was the Winner, Guys who like Beef tracks will See Me as the Winner, Those who like positive smooth tracks will see Punk as the Winner...


Congrats to @Punk Im not taking nothing away from him

but please next Illmania develop a point system or atleast leave more detailed votes...Just C break down was far better then these Judgments ...MURDA

[Mani Mula]

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ILLMANIA 4 Track Battle

SuperGuy Vs Mani Mula Vs Punk

SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Lets Beef Track: Battling With Snakes (ILLMANIA) - By: SuperGuy

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Biggest issues to me is clearly the recording quality. Mixing skills are lacking, and the overall presentation from a production point of view took away from the song majorly."

Ok lets not forget we are not recording in professional studios, as long as the lyrics are clear enough to understand recording quality shouldnt be judged , in that case who has the better mic damn near a Automatic Winner

"track was smooth, lyricwise, his delivery was on point, was gettin a lil bored tho midway thru"

"Most creative concept track-wise. I felt that the attitude and approach was very lethargic and vague, added to the atmosphere of the track but most certainly took away from the listening experience - it was more haunting than stimulating."

" i didnt get alot out of that song. to make a song like that successful its gotta be insane lyrically cus its so chilled out.. i dont think he captured that "

"The song itself, quality issues aside, was very good. I liked the aussie delivery and tone, made the song pretty unique. The content was thought-provoking, enjoyed the storytelling vibe, although the wording was a little forced in places"

So Based off Your Votes Super guy had Nice "Content" and "Story telling" and got critiqued on his "Recording Quality"


Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Lets Beef Track: Victory! - By: Mani Mula

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"The mixing on the hook seemed a bit off, thats the main issue that stood out to me. The delivery was very strong, and the content was impactful with the beef vibe."

"The first thing that strikes me is the hook-line "I'm walking away with a victory"... It was grazing to the eardrums due to the intense repetitiveness and monotony. It seemed to stick out like a jagged jigsaw piece."

This vote clearly covers one aspect of the track, U didnt like the Hook/Bridge but dont mention anyting else...hmmm

"Mani did what he does .. he'd have a decent shot at some mainstream success.. i agree with what you said about his hook being a lil bit off .. ive heard some great hooks from him but that wasnt one of them "

Yet another vote where all that is explained is what u dont like about the hook/bridge is this a track battle or Battle of the Hooks?

"beat was nice and agressive, delivery was dope, lyrically, definately suited for this type of crew contest.."

This is a much more detailed Vote I respect this

"Overall it just felt like the track was a little short as far as content went, i just dont think there was enough content to push this track into 'great' territory."

Another vote where u pick one aspect, Its a Diss track how much "Content" does it need, Crews were Named, Opponents were Named, the point was made...


Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Lets Beef Track: Thank The Lord - By: Punk

Judgement: Five Thoughts

"Delivery on the hook seemed a little rushed to me, was kinda hurt the strength of it. There seemed to be a vocal effect on it which i think was meant to make the hook seem more preachy but came off oddly robotic."

Another vote about how much u like the Hook smh, thats one aspect of a track

"I liked the warm and enlightening feel to this track. I felt that Punk connected with his beat the most and interacted with in a way that gave it a professional appeal."


"Punk fuckin killed it .. easily the best track of the 3 imo .. that boy crazy with it .. thats the only track id listen to more than once .. hes talented .. its obvious when you listen"

Now on a "professional" voting panel some1 tell me this dont sound like a Dickriding vote, this isnt a detailed vote at all

"Some areas suffered in terms of flow and delivery, the hook being a prime suspect. "

"There was definitely a number of highlights in the verse, with the story-telling vibe working perfectly with the production."


The Verdict

Voting closed after the first four judges all voted the same way, the feeling as a group was that SuperGuy's track was held down mostly due to its recording quality, although the judges opinion differed on the quality of the content with two enjoying the theme and complexity while the other two found it to be below avergae based on similar tracks of the same type. Mani's track was widely regarded as a great radio-friendly song, although criminally short on quality lines and the hook was overall rated as below average, yet catchy. Punk's hook was equally viewed as a bit off delivery wise, but the content was praised lyrically and on a delivery level.

This Verdict Makes no Sense, This is WHY I stated there needs to be a point system or something, With different Categories, It basically states u can have a dope track but if ya recording quality aint A1 Fuck It(Superguy), If you have dope Verses but we dont like the hook/bridge Fuck yo Verses(Mani Mula), But when u get to punk u state his Hook was off(Which u all care so deeply about) but the content was dope lyrically and on a delivery level ???

I cant put my finger on what was really being Judged here , No quotes, No Strengths were really listed, No point system to compare categories...Basically what I stated would happen in my previous post happened, u got 3 different types of tracks, with 3 dfferent beats, and tried to compare them, Thats not possible, Which Is why I stated they all shoulda been diss tracks, Guys who like Topicals will see Superguy was the Winner, Guys who like Beef tracks will See Me as the Winner, Those who like positive smooth tracks will see Punk as the Winner...


Congrats to @Punk Im not taking nothing away from him

but please next Illmania develop a point system or atleast leave more detailed votes...Just C break down was far better then these Judgments ...MURDA

I said to Subreal on chat that I hated that I was in ACs cause I'd legit have voted for SuperGuy, and know I'd have been the only one to do it. You all know me with topicals


Good shit Punk.

I said to Subreal on chat that I hated that I was in ACs cause I'd legit have voted for SuperGuy, and know I'd have been the only one to do it. You all know me with topicals


Good shit Punk.

This was fun thats for the feedback good and bad from the judges! Good job Punk

This was fun thats for the feedback good and bad from the judges! Good job Punk