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View Poll Results: What should be the LB King rules?
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Option 1 - Paused run for RULE/Rai
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Option 2 - Completely scrap it
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Option. 3 - One title for longest streak
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Option 4 - 10 defences minimum
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01-23-2020, 03:09 PM
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LBT/LBA King totally defeat the purpose of the interchangeable title. I think they should be scrapped. Want an LBA/LBT title? Win it and keep it.
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LBT/LBA King totally defeat the purpose of the interchangeable title. I think they should be scrapped. Want an LBA/LBT title? Win it and keep it.
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01-23-2020, 05:25 PM
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Imo the title should be changed to “LBA/T Legend”. Perhaps the person with the all-time longest streak could be the King, but I think having too many titles probably wouldn’t work.
I absolutely don’t think you can strip past titles, especially Esso and Seul’s because they both relinquished the belt after an undefeated streak of 7 after being told that would get them the permatitle. Perhaps if Rai and RULE want to have other events to legitimise their titles that’s cool.
I don’t think the current criteria need to include all past Legends/Kings though. Plenty of other titles have had changing criteria over time (i.e. GCs used to only be for exclusive members), the title is just for who met the conditions at the time. Going forward, I think it should be 7 or 10 consecutive defences. Don’t mind which.
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Imo the title should be changed to “LBA/T Legend”. Perhaps the person with the all-time longest streak could be the King, but I think having too many titles probably wouldn’t work.
I absolutely don’t think you can strip past titles, especially Esso and Seul’s because they both relinquished the belt after an undefeated streak of 7 after being told that would get them the permatitle. Perhaps if Rai and RULE want to have other events to legitimise their titles that’s cool.
I don’t think the current criteria need to include all past Legends/Kings though. Plenty of other titles have had changing criteria over time (i.e. GCs used to only be for exclusive members), the title is just for who met the conditions at the time. Going forward, I think it should be 7 or 10 consecutive defences. Don’t mind which.
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01-23-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee
Imo the title should be changed to “LBA/T Legend”. Perhaps the person with the all-time longest streak could be the King, but I think having too many titles probably wouldn’t work.
I absolutely don’t think you can strip past titles, especially Esso and Seul’s because they both relinquished the belt after an undefeated streak of 7 after being told that would get them the permatitle. Perhaps if Rai and RULE want to have other events to legitimise their titles that’s cool.
I don’t think the current criteria need to include all past Legends/Kings though. Plenty of other titles have had changing criteria over time (i.e. GCs used to only be for exclusive members), the title is just for who met the conditions at the time. Going forward, I think it should be 7 or 10 consecutive defences. Don’t mind which.
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Why can't you? 1.) They're just usertitles, having them removed doesn't negate what you did for them. 2.) All kinds of usertitles have been stripped in the past under situations like this. Contest titles, custom usertitles, etc. 3.) What's the point of an interchangeable title if you're forced to give it up after x number of defenses(which was the initial premise of the LBT/LBA King. x number of wins, relinquishing the LBT/LBA title, and getting the "King" title.)
Honestly, do away with LBT/LBA King, and let people hold the LBT/LBA titles for as long as they can. It makes it more enthralling when that person is unseated.
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Imo the title should be changed to “LBA/T Legend”. Perhaps the person with the all-time longest streak could be the King, but I think having too many titles probably wouldn’t work.
I absolutely don’t think you can strip past titles, especially Esso and Seul’s because they both relinquished the belt after an undefeated streak of 7 after being told that would get them the permatitle. Perhaps if Rai and RULE want to have other events to legitimise their titles that’s cool.
I don’t think the current criteria need to include all past Legends/Kings though. Plenty of other titles have had changing criteria over time (i.e. GCs used to only be for exclusive members), the title is just for who met the conditions at the time. Going forward, I think it should be 7 or 10 consecutive defences. Don’t mind which.
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Why can't you? 1.) They're just usertitles, having them removed doesn't negate what you did for them. 2.) All kinds of usertitles have been stripped in the past under situations like this. Contest titles, custom usertitles, etc. 3.) What's the point of an interchangeable title if you're forced to give it up after x number of defenses(which was the initial premise of the LBT/LBA King. x number of wins, relinquishing the LBT/LBA title, and getting the "King" title.)
Honestly, do away with LBT/LBA King, and let people hold the LBT/LBA titles for as long as they can. It makes it more enthralling when that person is unseated.
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01-23-2020, 07:07 PM
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LBT/LBA King totally defeat the purpose of the interchangeable title. I think they should be scrapped. Want an LBA/LBT title? Win it and keep it.
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I never liked this title to begin with. But, I can see why we honored ILLo's run the way we did. That's why I say if anything, we make that LBT/A King title ultimately interchangeable and an end game for the PPV circuit if you put on a great run. 7 defenses = a battle with the current LBT King to see who's really king.
Also, to avoid no-shows in the future, just make the loser of the title contender match a fill in.. Or whoever's 1 or 2 in that league according to record.
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LBT/LBA King totally defeat the purpose of the interchangeable title. I think they should be scrapped. Want an LBA/LBT title? Win it and keep it.
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I never liked this title to begin with. But, I can see why we honored ILLo's run the way we did. That's why I say if anything, we make that LBT/A King title ultimately interchangeable and an end game for the PPV circuit if you put on a great run. 7 defenses = a battle with the current LBT King to see who's really king.
Also, to avoid no-shows in the future, just make the loser of the title contender match a fill in.. Or whoever's 1 or 2 in that league according to record.
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01-23-2020, 09:03 PM
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Why the fuck is yearly public poll to determine the kings even an option? What a terrible idea tbh
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Why the fuck is yearly public poll to determine the kings even an option? What a terrible idea tbh
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Why the fuck is yearly public poll to determine the kings even an option? What a terrible idea tbh
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Cuz guts lol
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Why the fuck is yearly public poll to determine the kings even an option? What a terrible idea tbh
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Cuz guts lol
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Cuz guts lol
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01-24-2020, 12:41 AM
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Lmao, it's not fair to ILLo to have all these people running around with his title that didn't do anything close to what he did.
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you are a gentleman, and a scholar. appreciate it.
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01-24-2020, 12:41 AM
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Lmao, it's not fair to ILLo to have all these people running around with his title that didn't do anything close to what he did.
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01-24-2020, 05:14 AM
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So zero resolution?
---------- Post added at 05:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:56 AM ----------
Here’s my problem. So you guys want to strip Esso, Rai, RULE of their titles. Cool, so how exactly am I expected to convince these guys to battle in the future? What can I possibly bring to the table to convince these guys that “Oh hey, you know the permanent title you won? Boop, it’s gone” and still have them compete? If you’re removing some of my most active guys of all time, what next?
I had my own workaround and resolution for LBT, and everyone is against it. At that point, if I’m unable to independently make those decisions without a 50 page thread, it does make me turn away from LBT quite a lot. How many more times will I be tasked with solving issues that previous runners created? How many times am I gonna feel held back by the popular opinion of this stuff?
So honestly, I’m not sure I want to run LBT. When I took it on, I didn’t realize you guys had been changing the rules every 2.5 seconds to fit your favoured champion. When you have clearly defined rules, I didn’t know you guys decided to change these rules every 2 seconds and with that being the case, what do I do? Do I fuck everyone over by just deciding for myself? Do I fuck over the ex champs by stripping them of their permanent titles?
It’s immediately dejecting me from what I wanted to take place, so much so that it’s gonna be a slog to get it running.
I’m not sure what I want to do. My number one reason to want to continue LBT is because Kiwi just won the title. That’s huge man. He beat Shodan completely clean. I love that this happened in my first event. But other than that, the whole thing has been run so badly in the past that most of my job has been cleaning up bullshit from other people.
So I dunno. There’s not an entire point to this. I do want to run stuff and think we could have a lot of fun, but it’s also a bit of a bore trying to fix someone else’s stuff. A bit of me wants to start again with a new event, based on my old idea of having tonnes of different champions in different divisions, such as having a US Champ, an Interncontinental Champ, HW Champ, LW Champ, Tag Champs etc. but as always I need people invovled and tbh the people that I need to battle are the same people making me sick of running the LBT already.
You guys have made such a mammoth huge deal out of the one battle from my second LBT event, it’s just a headache that’s bored me already.
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So zero resolution?
---------- Post added at 05:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:56 AM ----------
Here’s my problem. So you guys want to strip Esso, Rai, RULE of their titles. Cool, so how exactly am I expected to convince these guys to battle in the future? What can I possibly bring to the table to convince these guys that “Oh hey, you know the permanent title you won? Boop, it’s gone” and still have them compete? If you’re removing some of my most active guys of all time, what next?
I had my own workaround and resolution for LBT, and everyone is against it. At that point, if I’m unable to independently make those decisions without a 50 page thread, it does make me turn away from LBT quite a lot. How many more times will I be tasked with solving issues that previous runners created? How many times am I gonna feel held back by the popular opinion of this stuff?
So honestly, I’m not sure I want to run LBT. When I took it on, I didn’t realize you guys had been changing the rules every 2.5 seconds to fit your favoured champion. When you have clearly defined rules, I didn’t know you guys decided to change these rules every 2 seconds and with that being the case, what do I do? Do I fuck everyone over by just deciding for myself? Do I fuck over the ex champs by stripping them of their permanent titles?
It’s immediately dejecting me from what I wanted to take place, so much so that it’s gonna be a slog to get it running.
I’m not sure what I want to do. My number one reason to want to continue LBT is because Kiwi just won the title. That’s huge man. He beat Shodan completely clean. I love that this happened in my first event. But other than that, the whole thing has been run so badly in the past that most of my job has been cleaning up bullshit from other people.
So I dunno. There’s not an entire point to this. I do want to run stuff and think we could have a lot of fun, but it’s also a bit of a bore trying to fix someone else’s stuff. A bit of me wants to start again with a new event, based on my old idea of having tonnes of different champions in different divisions, such as having a US Champ, an Interncontinental Champ, HW Champ, LW Champ, Tag Champs etc. but as always I need people invovled and tbh the people that I need to battle are the same people making me sick of running the LBT already.
You guys have made such a mammoth huge deal out of the one battle from my second LBT event, it’s just a headache that’s bored me already.
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