Have you guys ever realized that

Originally Posted by Enfinite

For me, it's faith vs. Religion. Meaning that, yes, I do believe there is a creator, I choose not to put a label on it personally, but it's hard for me to think that everything that life is was a random event. Intelligence creates intelligence. But Religion is man made and I DO NOT support a Religion. Too many of them, all saying they're correct. Science is and always will be our way of understanding HOW things are created, not why. Then again, that's just me, I'm down to learn any persons point of view.

RESPECT!

Originally Posted by Enfinite

For me, it's faith vs. Religion. Meaning that, yes, I do believe there is a creator, I choose not to put a label on it personally, but it's hard for me to think that everything that life is was a random event. Intelligence creates intelligence. But Religion is man made and I DO NOT support a Religion. Too many of them, all saying they're correct. Science is and always will be our way of understanding HOW things are created, not why. Then again, that's just me, I'm down to learn any persons point of view.

RESPECT!

[Babylon]

There's actually quite a bit of evidence of an historical Jesus. Not a shred of that evidence alludes to the fact he was a first century magician who could heal leprosy by bathing a bird in the blood of another bird, though. According to that historical evidence, there was actually a man named Jesus in which the christian faith could have based their religious texts off of. But there is nothing at all to state that he was in any way the "Son of God."

The entire bullshit with religion is that you can place the most outlandish and pseudo-scientific bullshit within the text and it can be completely and utterly justified by it's believers under the premise that "God" is all powerful and can do whatever he wants. That's why religion has been so prominent, and will remain prominent for centuries to come. There's no way to disprove that a talking snake lived in a garden and talked to the first humans ever alive that were subsequently created from dust and bone. There's no way to disprove that the prophet Muhammad flew to the moon on a Pegasuses.

[Babylon]

There's actually quite a bit of evidence of an historical Jesus. Not a shred of that evidence alludes to the fact he was a first century magician who could heal leprosy by bathing a bird in the blood of another bird, though. According to that historical evidence, there was actually a man named Jesus in which the christian faith could have based their religious texts off of. But there is nothing at all to state that he was in any way the "Son of God."

The entire bullshit with religion is that you can place the most outlandish and pseudo-scientific bullshit within the text and it can be completely and utterly justified by it's believers under the premise that "God" is all powerful and can do whatever he wants. That's why religion has been so prominent, and will remain prominent for centuries to come. There's no way to disprove that a talking snake lived in a garden and talked to the first humans ever alive that were subsequently created from dust and bone. There's no way to disprove that the prophet Muhammad flew to the moon on a Pegasuses.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Science - Gets an essence of truth in a theory and immediately tries to disprove it a thousand times in practical experimentation in order to make it absolutely certain that it is correct.

Religion - Gets an inkling of a story, immediately declares it true and denies any factual scientific evidence that disproves religious teachings and ethics.

This. I honestly wish that for once in a religious persons life they would operate under the premise that they COULD be wrong, then analyze their evidence and the counter-evidence for their religions/religions claims.

Being religious is fine, in fact, it's done some of the most amazing things in the history of humanity (Granted it's also done some of the most deplorable as well.) but to blindly follow your religion because it "makes ya feel good" or because it's what your family taught you is fucking idiotic.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Is Jesus Based on the Pagan God Horus? - YouTube

The mythological figure "Jesus" has elements based upon a multitude of other gods in history. Horus being the main one,

Buddha: Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry

Krishna: According to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected

Odysseus: Homeric tales about Odysseus emphasize his suffering life, just as in Mark Jesus said that he, too, would suffer greatly. Odysseus is a carpenter like Jesus, and he wants to return his home just as Jesus wants to be welcomed in his native home and later to God’s home in Jerusalem. Odysseus is plagued with unfaithful and dim-witted companions who display tragic flaws. They stupidly open a magic bag of wind while Odysseus sleeps and release terrible tempests which prevent their return home. These sailors are comparable to Jesus’ disciples, who disbelieve Jesus, ask foolish questions, and show general ignorance about everything. It’s amazing that either Odysseus or Jesus ever manage to accomplish anything, given the companions they have, but this simply demonstrates the power and ability of the one true leader who has a divine mandate to lead the people out of darkness and into a brighter future.


I'll stop now and let the Christians in this thread say that the only logical explanation is that the devil created these gods.. lol.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Science - Gets an essence of truth in a theory and immediately tries to disprove it a thousand times in practical experimentation in order to make it absolutely certain that it is correct.

Religion - Gets an inkling of a story, immediately declares it true and denies any factual scientific evidence that disproves religious teachings and ethics.

This. I honestly wish that for once in a religious persons life they would operate under the premise that they COULD be wrong, then analyze their evidence and the counter-evidence for their religions/religions claims.

Being religious is fine, in fact, it's done some of the most amazing things in the history of humanity (Granted it's also done some of the most deplorable as well.) but to blindly follow your religion because it "makes ya feel good" or because it's what your family taught you is fucking idiotic.

---------- Post added at 12:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Dave

Is Jesus Based on the Pagan God Horus? - YouTube

The mythological figure "Jesus" has elements based upon a multitude of other gods in history. Horus being the main one,

Buddha: Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry

Krishna: According to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected

Odysseus: Homeric tales about Odysseus emphasize his suffering life, just as in Mark Jesus said that he, too, would suffer greatly. Odysseus is a carpenter like Jesus, and he wants to return his home just as Jesus wants to be welcomed in his native home and later to God’s home in Jerusalem. Odysseus is plagued with unfaithful and dim-witted companions who display tragic flaws. They stupidly open a magic bag of wind while Odysseus sleeps and release terrible tempests which prevent their return home. These sailors are comparable to Jesus’ disciples, who disbelieve Jesus, ask foolish questions, and show general ignorance about everything. It’s amazing that either Odysseus or Jesus ever manage to accomplish anything, given the companions they have, but this simply demonstrates the power and ability of the one true leader who has a divine mandate to lead the people out of darkness and into a brighter future.


I'll stop now and let the Christians in this thread say that the only logical explanation is that the devil created these gods.. lol.

Sgt. Creepypasta

Sgt. Creepypasta

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Enfinite

For me, it's faith vs. Religion. Meaning that, yes, I do believe there is a creator, I choose not to put a label on it personally, but it's hard for me to think that everything that life is was a random event. Intelligence creates intelligence. But Religion is man made and I DO NOT support a Religion. Too many of them, all saying they're correct. Science is and always will be our way of understanding HOW things are created, not why. Then again, that's just me, I'm down to learn any persons point of view.

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Enfinite

For me, it's faith vs. Religion. Meaning that, yes, I do believe there is a creator, I choose not to put a label on it personally, but it's hard for me to think that everything that life is was a random event. Intelligence creates intelligence. But Religion is man made and I DO NOT support a Religion. Too many of them, all saying they're correct. Science is and always will be our way of understanding HOW things are created, not why. Then again, that's just me, I'm down to learn any persons point of view.

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

This. This shit right here.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

This. This shit right here.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

Awesome post. Completely co-signed.

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

Agnostic theism is probably the most on-the-fence way of thinking and will most likely keep you out of all arguments based on our existence.

Smart.

I personally embody the last sentence with the exception of anyone with views that hold any prejudice or damaging perspectives. A lot of religious people won't take the earplugs out to listen to my theories on our existence, so why should I listen to their viewpoint? Especially if they're shouting at me about female inferiority, homosexuality being an abominable sin and a manifesto of intolerance that gives me a headache. I've never held any prejudice nor do I prejudge anyone due to their belief system but I will automatically dismiss your view if it surfaces that you are a bigot or an ignoramus.

Awesome post. Completely co-signed.

[GRizzEAT]

but tha real question is, what in Gods name happened to Spectacular Vernacular?

[GRizzEAT]

but tha real question is, what in Gods name happened to Spectacular Vernacular?

[OSKAR]

I don't think sex was even involved.

God just used his chuck norris powers and got mary pregnant with his stare

[OSKAR]

I don't think sex was even involved.

God just used his chuck norris powers and got mary pregnant with his stare