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Actually makes sense to add some time if a deadline falls in a holiday weekend. It's what happened with me. Left right from work friday. Drove almost 4 hours. Spent the weekend with friends and drove home in a snowstorm on sunday. By the time I was home, even with a 5 hour extention i asked for in advance, I didnt have enough time to get it done.
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Actually makes sense to add some time if a deadline falls in a holiday weekend. It's what happened with me. Left right from work friday. Drove almost 4 hours. Spent the weekend with friends and drove home in a snowstorm on sunday. By the time I was home, even with a 5 hour extention i asked for in advance, I didnt have enough time to get it done.
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01-20-2020, 07:08 PM
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I agree with Noir on this, I know shit happens and ultimately I'd rather see the battles go down then to waste someone's bars, that's why I had 1 time extensions in the tournaments I hosted.
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I agree with Noir on this, I know shit happens and ultimately I'd rather see the battles go down then to waste someone's bars, that's why I had 1 time extensions in the tournaments I hosted.
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This idea has potential but could be easily abused
Remember with the strict 3 days to post 3 days to vote deadline this GC is taking OVER a MONTH to complete.
& we're talking 16 lines. I wrote a 64 in 2 hours a few weeks ago. Y'all got 3 days from the round opening. You could be writing bars NOW for the next round.
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I don't see how it could be abused really. It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something. Anyone could throw together a shit 16 just to show.. I'm sure we all wanna see the best out of each other in these tournament battles, not half hearted efforts to make a deadline. I couldn't even begin to count the amount of tourney battles, and even finals I've been disappointed in, probably due to people writing in a rush. And at the end of the day, we should all want the battle to go down rather than have tourney's riddled with petty no shows where the battler was actually around/active and could post with a lil extension.
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Originally Posted by RULE
This idea has potential but could be easily abused
Remember with the strict 3 days to post 3 days to vote deadline this GC is taking OVER a MONTH to complete.
& we're talking 16 lines. I wrote a 64 in 2 hours a few weeks ago. Y'all got 3 days from the round opening. You could be writing bars NOW for the next round.
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I don't see how it could be abused really. It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something. Anyone could throw together a shit 16 just to show.. I'm sure we all wanna see the best out of each other in these tournament battles, not half hearted efforts to make a deadline. I couldn't even begin to count the amount of tourney battles, and even finals I've been disappointed in, probably due to people writing in a rush. And at the end of the day, we should all want the battle to go down rather than have tourney's riddled with petty no shows where the battler was actually around/active and could post with a lil extension.
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01-21-2020, 02:15 AM
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Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.
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Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.
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The problem with all of this is that you have to have a hard deadline at some point or there's no deadline at all. If there's a 2-hour grace period after the deadline, that's essentially extending the deadline by 2 hours. Because if someone posts 2 hours 30 minutes late, they're definitely just going to say "I was only 30 minutes after the deadline, it's no big deal really, I posted so just take the battle" so you end up with a precedent for a 2 and a half hour grace period, then when someone's 3 hours late you get the same thing and so on. I think it's a good idea if both battlers agree they want the battle to go ahead then it should; and for stuff like the LBT where its monthly then it doesn't really matter, but for tournaments with tight schedules I think deadlines are pretty important and should only be ignored if both battlers agree to let the battle go ahead, or if the late poster had communicated clearly with the tournament organiser before the deadline expired and sorted out a mutual extension.
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Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.
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Exactly
A tournament is a competition. Having a deadline makes it even to everyone. They all get the same time.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee
The problem with all of this is that you have to have a hard deadline at some point or there's no deadline at all. If there's a 2-hour grace period after the deadline, that's essentially extending the deadline by 2 hours. Because if someone posts 2 hours 30 minutes late, they're definitely just going to say "I was only 30 minutes after the deadline, it's no big deal really, I posted so just take the battle" so you end up with a precedent for a 2 and a half hour grace period, then when someone's 3 hours late you get the same thing and so on. I think it's a good idea if both battlers agree they want the battle to go ahead then it should; and for stuff like the LBT where its monthly then it doesn't really matter, but for tournaments with tight schedules I think deadlines are pretty important and should only be ignored if both battlers agree to let the battle go ahead, or if the late poster had communicated clearly with the tournament organiser before the deadline expired and sorted out a mutual extension.
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Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.
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A tournament is a competition. Having a deadline makes it even to everyone. They all get the same time.
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It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something.
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You can already ask for extensions on the deadlines at the moment. I think these should be more accessible, and I think if something comes up unexpectedly and you let the tournament organiser know afterwards you should be able to submit your verse late because personal emergencies/whatever leading to a no-show in a battle both battlers were taking seriously is pointless you're right. But having a blanket grace period and making the deadlines irrelevant just voids the point of having them and then tournaments will take forever.
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It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something.
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You can already ask for extensions on the deadlines at the moment. I think these should be more accessible, and I think if something comes up unexpectedly and you let the tournament organiser know afterwards you should be able to submit your verse late because personal emergencies/whatever leading to a no-show in a battle both battlers were taking seriously is pointless you're right. But having a blanket grace period and making the deadlines irrelevant just voids the point of having them and then tournaments will take forever.
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Typically I allow it as long as ot doesn't have an effect on the battle. Like if you drop a no show verse last second the opponent can't drop a real one 6 hours later.
Shodan was about an hour late for Kiwi but shit like that's fine if the battle gets made.
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I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit
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Typically I allow it as long as ot doesn't have an effect on the battle. Like if you drop a no show verse last second the opponent can't drop a real one 6 hours later.
Shodan was about an hour late for Kiwi but shit like that's fine if the battle gets made.
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I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit
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I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit
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You hit me up like 1am GMT to say you were posting and the original deadline was midnight GMT. Didnt matter the battle went up and it was good.
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I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit
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You hit me up like 1am GMT to say you were posting and the original deadline was midnight GMT. Didnt matter the battle went up and it was good.
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I don’t think a “grace period” makes any sense. That’s just a new deadline, Lol.
At the end of the day, we all want battles to go down but at a certain point you can’t just hold up the whole tournament for a person/couple people. Obviously shit happens emergency wise so there’s obviously exceptions there but we can’t just go on extending tournament deadlines 1-2 days at the drop of a dime because someone was “busy”. It’s not fair to the opponent and not fair to the rest of the participants.
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I don’t think a “grace period” makes any sense. That’s just a new deadline, Lol.
At the end of the day, we all want battles to go down but at a certain point you can’t just hold up the whole tournament for a person/couple people. Obviously shit happens emergency wise so there’s obviously exceptions there but we can’t just go on extending tournament deadlines 1-2 days at the drop of a dime because someone was “busy”. It’s not fair to the opponent and not fair to the rest of the participants.
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