It's been fun but

[Phil Banks]

i just went through the track section actually like 4 tracks off top that were all dope....


maybe the problem is the forums layout... like if we could transfer activity in the text lounge to the general section for the free post bs.... sticky some hot tracks or w/e coz this the most active forum audio heads dont come here maybe gen sec more inviting

[Phil Banks]

i just went through the track section actually like 4 tracks off top that were all dope....


maybe the problem is the forums layout... like if we could transfer activity in the text lounge to the general section for the free post bs.... sticky some hot tracks or w/e coz this the most active forum audio heads dont come here maybe gen sec more inviting

[Letum]

You should put the top audio (or three) on the text/audio battle pages.

[Letum]

You should put the top audio (or three) on the text/audio battle pages.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Jason

i dont agree with that for a few reasons.

number 1 being that most people like to be encouraged when theyre attempting new things.. right now the site seems to be thriving on new blood, discouraging people early on will do more harm than good in the way of them continuing to make music. for someone new at recording they'll be getting 4's, 5's all the time.. it doesnt matter how "fair" you wanna say your rating is according to the system, getting 4's, 5's out of a possible 10 is more discouraging than helpful in my opinion.
the rating system is really rather pointless in terms of the track section, i think we should abolish it completely. you cant see the ratings, the ratings are usually bogus- the give either a false sense of enhanced abilities on the mic or (with the system you proposed) .. they will give a discouraging sense of your abilities. i dont see that it serves any real purpose
the essential part to any rating system is the comments themselves. the numbers dont matter so much as everyone rates them differently. but the comments cannot be quantified, they're unbias and are the only REAL helpful tool for improvement.
who cares if you got a 4,5,6,7, or 8????
someone really educated on hip hop could rate you a 5 and drop an insightful comment, while someone else could give you a 10 and drop nothing of value. where did you gain? you gained from the comment... not the 5 or the 10 rating.
people see a comment and a rating and often the two dont add up- why not just cut out the ratings entirely? that way people focus on writing something helpful instead of using a number to communicate their thoughts on the song? ratings are a copout, they make it easy not to write anything of value on the comments because they know people just care about a high number. eliminate the numbers.. that way people will have to write out how they feel

Altho all true, the likelihood of an actual coding change (removing rates altogether for example) is small. People come up with a hundred great ideas daily on here, but what we need to focus on at the moment is what to do with what we have, not what we want.

And at the moment have have a numerical rating system.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Jason

i dont agree with that for a few reasons.

number 1 being that most people like to be encouraged when theyre attempting new things.. right now the site seems to be thriving on new blood, discouraging people early on will do more harm than good in the way of them continuing to make music. for someone new at recording they'll be getting 4's, 5's all the time.. it doesnt matter how "fair" you wanna say your rating is according to the system, getting 4's, 5's out of a possible 10 is more discouraging than helpful in my opinion.
the rating system is really rather pointless in terms of the track section, i think we should abolish it completely. you cant see the ratings, the ratings are usually bogus- the give either a false sense of enhanced abilities on the mic or (with the system you proposed) .. they will give a discouraging sense of your abilities. i dont see that it serves any real purpose
the essential part to any rating system is the comments themselves. the numbers dont matter so much as everyone rates them differently. but the comments cannot be quantified, they're unbias and are the only REAL helpful tool for improvement.
who cares if you got a 4,5,6,7, or 8????
someone really educated on hip hop could rate you a 5 and drop an insightful comment, while someone else could give you a 10 and drop nothing of value. where did you gain? you gained from the comment... not the 5 or the 10 rating.
people see a comment and a rating and often the two dont add up- why not just cut out the ratings entirely? that way people focus on writing something helpful instead of using a number to communicate their thoughts on the song? ratings are a copout, they make it easy not to write anything of value on the comments because they know people just care about a high number. eliminate the numbers.. that way people will have to write out how they feel

Altho all true, the likelihood of an actual coding change (removing rates altogether for example) is small. People come up with a hundred great ideas daily on here, but what we need to focus on at the moment is what to do with what we have, not what we want.

And at the moment have have a numerical rating system.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Jason

yeah i get what you mean.

but i feel like taking something away is probably alot easier than adding something. Pugz could probably snap his fingers and make this happen if everyone thought it would be beneficial.

but if you think finding a way to make the rating system work is a better idea then thats cool too

Removing the numerical ratings would be best overall imo. But becuase it ties into a tracks rating im not sure how straight-forward it would be to remove.

Worth a holla tho.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Jason

yeah i get what you mean.

but i feel like taking something away is probably alot easier than adding something. Pugz could probably snap his fingers and make this happen if everyone thought it would be beneficial.

but if you think finding a way to make the rating system work is a better idea then thats cool too

Removing the numerical ratings would be best overall imo. But becuase it ties into a tracks rating im not sure how straight-forward it would be to remove.

Worth a holla tho.

[J u s T C]

I agree that the track section would be better off without a rating scale. It seems to be the root of a lot of the problems. Whether low rating or un justly high. It offers nothing but being a way to determine the "Hot List" & that just creates an environment where people rate high just to get a high rating back to stay on the hotlist. People get bitchy when low rated because of that which in turn puts some or a lot of people off checking the section. Makes it political & clicky Which it should never be.

But like Rule said it will only happen with a complete over haul. Which I cant see happening, at least not just yet.

Getting the twitter up date for new uploads as well as bringing back the ability to sig track players will be a good start, at least in terms of getting plays back up.

[J u s T C]

I agree that the track section would be better off without a rating scale. It seems to be the root of a lot of the problems. Whether low rating or un justly high. It offers nothing but being a way to determine the "Hot List" & that just creates an environment where people rate high just to get a high rating back to stay on the hotlist. People get bitchy when low rated because of that which in turn puts some or a lot of people off checking the section. Makes it political & clicky Which it should never be.

But like Rule said it will only happen with a complete over haul. Which I cant see happening, at least not just yet.

Getting the twitter up date for new uploads as well as bringing back the ability to sig track players will be a good start, at least in terms of getting plays back up.

[Erupt da Monsta]

i will do my best .

[Erupt da Monsta]

i will do my best .

[FreezyCT]

looking at the top of the screen - theres no reason "crews" should have its own tab...i mean come on...has anyone ever clicked on that? and "rankings" for that matter - theyre bad enough as it is, dont promote the fact we have them lol

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i agree tho the ratings - at some point - need to go...music is subjective, so to have to measure it with a number scale is not only hard, but wrong...which is why we're in the place we are right now

the site needs a culture change - like jason pointed out, its easier to just leave a rating then to leave an insightful comment because the comment may be taken out of context or returned thru hate votes...its lose/lose atm

[FreezyCT]

looking at the top of the screen - theres no reason "crews" should have its own tab...i mean come on...has anyone ever clicked on that? and "rankings" for that matter - theyre bad enough as it is, dont promote the fact we have them lol

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i agree tho the ratings - at some point - need to go...music is subjective, so to have to measure it with a number scale is not only hard, but wrong...which is why we're in the place we are right now

the site needs a culture change - like jason pointed out, its easier to just leave a rating then to leave an insightful comment because the comment may be taken out of context or returned thru hate votes...its lose/lose atm

[Mayneak]

Originally Posted by Just C

Be warned. This gonna be a long 1 (pause?)

Other than the audio tourney (depending on the 1st RD turnout, if it's absolutely full of NS's I'ma just fuck it off n be gone) I'm done. Forums boring as fuck. Track sections dead. No battles popping. No interesting beefs would be an overstatement because there are literally NONE in the track section. This place is dire as fuck right now. I can log in in the morning. Log back in at night and find like 5 new posts (most of them by Lizman) *sigh*

I also want to step down as Topical Mod. As much as I want to help, my heart REALLY isn't in it as a sub genre, especially in text form. I just can't do it. I'm an audio head, not a texter, let alone someone who has a deep interest in text TOPICALS. I can continue modding the tourney and see it through but if you can get a replacement who's heart is in it asap. It would probably be for the best. Erupt van step up if he wants.


Text is thriving on here (battle wise) everything else is dying a slow death. Video Battles are making a welcome come back. Shout out's to NOBLE (Besides RULE he the hardest working mod with AT and Rhet close 3rds) Phil the most active audio mod and is stepping up with the tourney. But Someone needs to grab that track section by the scruff of the kneck and drag it back up kicking and screaming and the LBA/Audio Arena, GFX? Lol. De mod and re mod otherwise it will stay a lame duck, you got Chatroom Delegates who since getting, modded? Don't fucking use the place or do anything to boost activity, why the fuck do you guys keep doing this?! Lol. EVERRRY FUCKING TIME you make these decisions and EVERY FUCKING TIME someone gets another title only for them to do fuck all to justify it and we're right back to square 1.

NOBODY questions it, nobody's expected to contribute. They're just left to do nothing other than their own little thing they were doing before.

Fix that track section before it's too late. Its seriously DYING.. DIEEEEE EEEEENG. To some that's an exaggeration. To others who have spent quality time using these areas over the years or would really like to start utilising them (GFX) know what I mean. It's BLAAAAAAH!

You do realise that the LESS PLAYS & less FEEDBACK = LESS REASON TO POST.

I tried to do the Track Of The Month shit. But let's be real. Lol. I've created far to many issues and burnt too many bridges with ppl for anything I do to be a success. Not just that. But to the point it attracts resistance, on a personal level I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck. But when that shit gets in the way of the bigger picture and effects everyone else (which it does) it sucks. I know that if RULE would have done the TOTM it would have got off to a flyer and would have done well. But RULE is in charge of text. Cant expect him to take on everything and bring back the other sections too, that's why 1 of YOU fuckers on the audio side with more pull and respect than me gotta start grabbing the bull by the fucking horns and step the fuck up and stop coasting


Anyway. Concerned, rant? Over. But yeah you need a new topical mod and all the others who's hearts ain't in it need to stop being so selfish & make way for some new blood willing to put the work in & help improve the site. If you're too busy with RL shit then COOL. Nobodys begrudging that. We all gotta find our way in life and this shit doesn't pay a dime. but at the same time step down and give your spot to somebody who DOES have the time. Because while you're still in there you get the tired old "we got enough mods as it is" barrier. You're HARMING the site.

Get the fuck OFF invisible mode. I don't buy that it makes you some super secret covert ninja mod. People need to see you online so they know you're there to help them. Is that why you go invisible? So you won't be asked to do something? Because that's the only reason I can see why you would go incog. Out of site out of mind.

Make a dedicated Track Section mod. He does nothing but fix that piece of shit. He goes on a trial basis. If he doesn't do shit you fuck him off and 'hire' another until you find 1 who gets it right. Same with GFX. Same with Topicals.

And replace means Topical Mod.

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Lol I said concerned rant over then continued to rant. But that's all real shit. The shit irks me sometimes.

Co-signageeeee...Shit used to be fun to log onto before the "higher" powers dropped by on a permanent basis. All i see when i log on is people bitching and crying in the forums, cant remember the last time i read a decent battle or listened to one from forum advertising...Too many people comfortable with posting bullshit and no actually doing something about it...& no, sorry to shatter hopes and dreams but the site will NOT get revitalised coz theres nothing appealing anymore. People that has been around for a while can single handedly name people that are destroying the site, i could think of 10 off the top but im not gonna call people out, they know...

Track section is dying coz the people that were passionate about writing, recording & getting/providing decent feedback are disappearing & been replaced by forum conversationalists...

anywhoooo...as i've said, before the Admins bought property up in hurrrrrrr, everything was rosey...I hope life comes back into the site but i can guarantee 99% chance it wont...my opinion

[Mayneak]

Originally Posted by Just C

Be warned. This gonna be a long 1 (pause?)

Other than the audio tourney (depending on the 1st RD turnout, if it's absolutely full of NS's I'ma just fuck it off n be gone) I'm done. Forums boring as fuck. Track sections dead. No battles popping. No interesting beefs would be an overstatement because there are literally NONE in the track section. This place is dire as fuck right now. I can log in in the morning. Log back in at night and find like 5 new posts (most of them by Lizman) *sigh*

I also want to step down as Topical Mod. As much as I want to help, my heart REALLY isn't in it as a sub genre, especially in text form. I just can't do it. I'm an audio head, not a texter, let alone someone who has a deep interest in text TOPICALS. I can continue modding the tourney and see it through but if you can get a replacement who's heart is in it asap. It would probably be for the best. Erupt van step up if he wants.


Text is thriving on here (battle wise) everything else is dying a slow death. Video Battles are making a welcome come back. Shout out's to NOBLE (Besides RULE he the hardest working mod with AT and Rhet close 3rds) Phil the most active audio mod and is stepping up with the tourney. But Someone needs to grab that track section by the scruff of the kneck and drag it back up kicking and screaming and the LBA/Audio Arena, GFX? Lol. De mod and re mod otherwise it will stay a lame duck, you got Chatroom Delegates who since getting, modded? Don't fucking use the place or do anything to boost activity, why the fuck do you guys keep doing this?! Lol. EVERRRY FUCKING TIME you make these decisions and EVERY FUCKING TIME someone gets another title only for them to do fuck all to justify it and we're right back to square 1.

NOBODY questions it, nobody's expected to contribute. They're just left to do nothing other than their own little thing they were doing before.

Fix that track section before it's too late. Its seriously DYING.. DIEEEEE EEEEENG. To some that's an exaggeration. To others who have spent quality time using these areas over the years or would really like to start utilising them (GFX) know what I mean. It's BLAAAAAAH!

You do realise that the LESS PLAYS & less FEEDBACK = LESS REASON TO POST.

I tried to do the Track Of The Month shit. But let's be real. Lol. I've created far to many issues and burnt too many bridges with ppl for anything I do to be a success. Not just that. But to the point it attracts resistance, on a personal level I honestly couldn't give less of a fuck. But when that shit gets in the way of the bigger picture and effects everyone else (which it does) it sucks. I know that if RULE would have done the TOTM it would have got off to a flyer and would have done well. But RULE is in charge of text. Cant expect him to take on everything and bring back the other sections too, that's why 1 of YOU fuckers on the audio side with more pull and respect than me gotta start grabbing the bull by the fucking horns and step the fuck up and stop coasting


Anyway. Concerned, rant? Over. But yeah you need a new topical mod and all the others who's hearts ain't in it need to stop being so selfish & make way for some new blood willing to put the work in & help improve the site. If you're too busy with RL shit then COOL. Nobodys begrudging that. We all gotta find our way in life and this shit doesn't pay a dime. but at the same time step down and give your spot to somebody who DOES have the time. Because while you're still in there you get the tired old "we got enough mods as it is" barrier. You're HARMING the site.

Get the fuck OFF invisible mode. I don't buy that it makes you some super secret covert ninja mod. People need to see you online so they know you're there to help them. Is that why you go invisible? So you won't be asked to do something? Because that's the only reason I can see why you would go incog. Out of site out of mind.

Make a dedicated Track Section mod. He does nothing but fix that piece of shit. He goes on a trial basis. If he doesn't do shit you fuck him off and 'hire' another until you find 1 who gets it right. Same with GFX. Same with Topicals.

And replace means Topical Mod.

---------- Post added at 02:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 AM ----------

Lol I said concerned rant over then continued to rant. But that's all real shit. The shit irks me sometimes.

Co-signageeeee...Shit used to be fun to log onto before the "higher" powers dropped by on a permanent basis. All i see when i log on is people bitching and crying in the forums, cant remember the last time i read a decent battle or listened to one from forum advertising...Too many people comfortable with posting bullshit and no actually doing something about it...& no, sorry to shatter hopes and dreams but the site will NOT get revitalised coz theres nothing appealing anymore. People that has been around for a while can single handedly name people that are destroying the site, i could think of 10 off the top but im not gonna call people out, they know...

Track section is dying coz the people that were passionate about writing, recording & getting/providing decent feedback are disappearing & been replaced by forum conversationalists...

anywhoooo...as i've said, before the Admins bought property up in hurrrrrrr, everything was rosey...I hope life comes back into the site but i can guarantee 99% chance it wont...my opinion

[Phil Banks]

Mayneak all you do is bitch when you post so I guess you rly dont find shit appealing....

[Phil Banks]

Mayneak all you do is bitch when you post so I guess you rly dont find shit appealing....

[Murderous Swag]

Lmfaoooooooooooooooo i cant believe i just read that entire original post

[Murderous Swag]

Lmfaoooooooooooooooo i cant believe i just read that entire original post