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lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
as a mod i look at battles differently...i might look at just the votes and see that only 1 or two people voted for someone out of maybe 7 or 8 votes....then i'll read and see if those votes are merited. i give the benefit of the doubt if you can expo your thoughts...but if you just say 'good shit' or 'one was dope' and you vote statistically incorrect then i have an issue.
we dont all have to vote alike...but there should be an accord met in nearly all battles. the reality is...there are very few battles on here that are debatable...but when that happens...its classic.
while i think the FVC is in good hands.... i still think the concept itself is flawed...and i helped pioneer the FVC. i'm an original member. after becoming seasoned..to me..either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
tbh..anyone asking to be in FVC would immediately get denied if i ran it lol...all these FVC applications n shit...corny...let us see how good of a voter you are and we'll put you in the mix
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lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
as a mod i look at battles differently...i might look at just the votes and see that only 1 or two people voted for someone out of maybe 7 or 8 votes....then i'll read and see if those votes are merited. i give the benefit of the doubt if you can expo your thoughts...but if you just say 'good shit' or 'one was dope' and you vote statistically incorrect then i have an issue.
we dont all have to vote alike...but there should be an accord met in nearly all battles. the reality is...there are very few battles on here that are debatable...but when that happens...its classic.
while i think the FVC is in good hands.... i still think the concept itself is flawed...and i helped pioneer the FVC. i'm an original member. after becoming seasoned..to me..either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
tbh..anyone asking to be in FVC would immediately get denied if i ran it lol...all these FVC applications n shit...corny...let us see how good of a voter you are and we'll put you in the mix
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lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
as a mod i look at battles differently...i might look at just the votes and see that only 1 or two people voted for someone out of maybe 7 or 8 votes....then i'll read and see if those votes are merited. i give the benefit of the doubt if you can expo your thoughts...but if you just say 'good shit' or 'one was dope' and you vote statistically incorrect then i have an issue.
we dont all have to vote alike...but there should be an accord met in nearly all battles. the reality is...there are very few battles on here that are debatable...but when that happens...its classic.
while i think the FVC is in good hands.... i still think the concept itself is flawed...and i helped pioneer the FVC. i'm an original member. after becoming seasoned..to me..either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
tbh..anyone asking to be in FVC would immediately get denied if i ran it lol...all these FVC applications n shit...corny...let us see how good of a voter you are and we'll put you in the mix
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I totally agree with this...I'm a little weary of what counts as a "good voter" on here and I've never really been a fan of the FVC as an idea. Aside from blatant hate and buddy voting, people are always going to have legitimately different view s of what a good rap verse is. That's why some people prefer Lil Wayne over Nas...its just their preference.
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Originally Posted by Itz Killz
lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
as a mod i look at battles differently...i might look at just the votes and see that only 1 or two people voted for someone out of maybe 7 or 8 votes....then i'll read and see if those votes are merited. i give the benefit of the doubt if you can expo your thoughts...but if you just say 'good shit' or 'one was dope' and you vote statistically incorrect then i have an issue.
we dont all have to vote alike...but there should be an accord met in nearly all battles. the reality is...there are very few battles on here that are debatable...but when that happens...its classic.
while i think the FVC is in good hands.... i still think the concept itself is flawed...and i helped pioneer the FVC. i'm an original member. after becoming seasoned..to me..either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
tbh..anyone asking to be in FVC would immediately get denied if i ran it lol...all these FVC applications n shit...corny...let us see how good of a voter you are and we'll put you in the mix
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I totally agree with this...I'm a little weary of what counts as a "good voter" on here and I've never really been a fan of the FVC as an idea. Aside from blatant hate and buddy voting, people are always going to have legitimately different view s of what a good rap verse is. That's why some people prefer Lil Wayne over Nas...its just their preference.
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:smh: that all the little bullshit is still going on.
a solution has been given, hide the comments.
now just wait for it to happen and shut up.
as for the battlers expoing there verse.
if you think you have to explain something, then you didn't write it correctly in my eyes.
of coarse there are a few times when people from different backgrounds won't get it. but 8/10 times they will. sooooo yea..
*Therapist told me to let my voice be heard*
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:smh: that all the little bullshit is still going on.
a solution has been given, hide the comments.
now just wait for it to happen and shut up.
as for the battlers expoing there verse.
if you think you have to explain something, then you didn't write it correctly in my eyes.
of coarse there are a few times when people from different backgrounds won't get it. but 8/10 times they will. sooooo yea..
*Therapist told me to let my voice be heard*
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lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
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"Long sentences and shit" has nothing to do with the quality of your vote.. but the type of vote.. which is a full breakdown. Agreed, not everyone needs a breakdown. However, when someone gets one.. odds are that they need it. Meaning... their verse isn't all it's hyped up to be and their flaws need to be pointed out to them. So instead of "both need work".. a description of why it didn't work would actually help the battler. Otherwise, that person isn't going to elevate and they'll keep writing boring ass stretched concepts and wonder why people aren't feeling it.. since their only feedback was "it needs work".
Two things here:
1.) You can give a full breakdown and not mention who you voted for.
2.) Even if you did mention who you picked, refer to my OP. If you get swayed by others' votes, you shouldn't be voting.
So, you're saying "less is more" in a vote.. but most of the time, I'd disagree... ( since most of the time you aren't voting on a veteran battle, but instead, one where both kids need work)
Pretty much, if your verse is polished.. if you're getting 8+ scores from me.. you aren't getting a detailed expo unless you ask for one because you know your shit. If you're steadily getting 6 and below from me, I'll explain as thoroughly as I can because I know my advice can make that person better if they fucking listen.
Also @ the "one sided" thing.. why stray from that? If someone got slaughtered, just tell them they got slaughtered. Sugar coating shit just makes people believe they're better than they are. ... and the number of undeserved egos running rampant on this site is hysterical.
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either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
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lol...as a mod it prolly aint appropriate to name names n shit..but i will say this...
expoing with long sentences and shit doesnt mean you are a good voter. also..at least to me...if you cant explain ya vote in a way that doesnt inform potential voters of whom you voted for, you arent a good voter.
i try my best to stay away from the 'this was onesided' shit..instead..i'd go with 'both need work..one needs more' or 'despite some good potential...execution was an issue here'
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"Long sentences and shit" has nothing to do with the quality of your vote.. but the type of vote.. which is a full breakdown. Agreed, not everyone needs a breakdown. However, when someone gets one.. odds are that they need it. Meaning... their verse isn't all it's hyped up to be and their flaws need to be pointed out to them. So instead of "both need work".. a description of why it didn't work would actually help the battler. Otherwise, that person isn't going to elevate and they'll keep writing boring ass stretched concepts and wonder why people aren't feeling it.. since their only feedback was "it needs work".
Two things here:
1.) You can give a full breakdown and not mention who you voted for.
2.) Even if you did mention who you picked, refer to my OP. If you get swayed by others' votes, you shouldn't be voting.
So, you're saying "less is more" in a vote.. but most of the time, I'd disagree... ( since most of the time you aren't voting on a veteran battle, but instead, one where both kids need work)
Pretty much, if your verse is polished.. if you're getting 8+ scores from me.. you aren't getting a detailed expo unless you ask for one because you know your shit. If you're steadily getting 6 and below from me, I'll explain as thoroughly as I can because I know my advice can make that person better if they fucking listen.
Also @ the "one sided" thing.. why stray from that? If someone got slaughtered, just tell them they got slaughtered. Sugar coating shit just makes people believe they're better than they are. ... and the number of undeserved egos running rampant on this site is hysterical.
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either you vote well because you are a fair and intelligent voter...or you vote well to get into the FVC. the latter is the cats i have an issue with.
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100% agree with this.
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I'm digging this idea. I was an original member of the FVC when Mindless had it running. Alot of people disagreed with the way I voted & still today people catch feelings. Hopefully this will open people's eyes and help them elevate. I also feel that ratings are just as important as the actual vote. People need to know what skill level there at in order to progress. A 'general voting scale' ain't going to work. Hit me up for a detailed vote anytime, regardless if I'm a FVC member. (as long as your not soft ).
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I'm digging this idea. I was an original member of the FVC when Mindless had it running. Alot of people disagreed with the way I voted & still today people catch feelings. Hopefully this will open people's eyes and help them elevate. I also feel that ratings are just as important as the actual vote. People need to know what skill level there at in order to progress. A 'general voting scale' ain't going to work. Hit me up for a detailed vote anytime, regardless if I'm a FVC member. (as long as your not soft ).
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its def a good idea cuz some voters dont even read the battles when there voting...you know how when your posting in forums and theres a 10 character minimum required to post??....they should have a 100 chracter or w.e minimum when voting on a battle
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its def a good idea cuz some voters dont even read the battles when there voting...you know how when your posting in forums and theres a 10 character minimum required to post??....they should have a 100 chracter or w.e minimum when voting on a battle
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@ Askari good shit fam... any FVC awards i'll let you take care of, as theres no need in anyome request a FVC award from me, as Askari is the FVC Mod, so once in he will grant you your award... (something small, but needed to be brought to some ppl's attention).
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@ Askari good shit fam... any FVC awards i'll let you take care of, as theres no need in anyome request a FVC award from me, as Askari is the FVC Mod, so once in he will grant you your award... (something small, but needed to be brought to some ppl's attention).
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