Wilder VS Fury

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Rant

Control, and landed strikes go a long way.

Oh, I agree. But if it were a street fight and one guy knocked the other one out, I wouldn't say the guy that got knocked out won because he showed greater "control and more landed strikes" than the other guy for the vast majority of the fight. The knockout would be the exclamation point on the whole ordeal. Granted, Fury didn't get knocked out but rather he only got knocked down twice. If he hadn't got up, we wouldn't be saying he won or he got robbed despite the fact that he showed greater boxing skills throughout. The two knockdowns have to count for something. I think the decision draw was the best way to negotiate the situation, but it would have been extremely disappointing (imo) if Fury had won just on points. That should be reserved more for fights where there are no knockdowns or equal knockdowns by both opponents.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Rant

Control, and landed strikes go a long way.

Oh, I agree. But if it were a street fight and one guy knocked the other one out, I wouldn't say the guy that got knocked out won because he showed greater "control and more landed strikes" than the other guy for the vast majority of the fight. The knockout would be the exclamation point on the whole ordeal. Granted, Fury didn't get knocked out but rather he only got knocked down twice. If he hadn't got up, we wouldn't be saying he won or he got robbed despite the fact that he showed greater boxing skills throughout. The two knockdowns have to count for something. I think the decision draw was the best way to negotiate the situation, but it would have been extremely disappointing (imo) if Fury had won just on points. That should be reserved more for fights where there are no knockdowns or equal knockdowns by both opponents.

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Also, a lot of people are saying the ref started the count late on the second knockdown and Fury should've been counted out.

[NOBLE]

Also, a lot of people are saying the ref started the count late on the second knockdown and Fury should've been counted out.

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Fury Robbed the fact 1 Judge would of had wilder winning without the knockdowns says it all. Even Lou Dibella Wilders promoter told fury he won (Before the scores were announced)

You dont win boxing fights offa 2 rounds won when the other 10 you were getting totally out boxed and made to look the wild 1 trick pony you are.


Klit got decked 3 times by Sam Peter and won. Plus numerous others. This is boxing not a streetfight.


Fury spent 3 years inactive in the gutter, overweight addicted depressed. had tune ups against bums then went on to fight the most athleticly gifted in shape heavyweight. Schooled him, made the most epic recovery from a knockdown in the 12th round (the 12th needs to be emphasized here) He looked FUCKING DEAD EYES GLAZED and all. Not only did he get up. it was like nothing happened n took the fight to wilder. My jaw dropped. Been watching boxing for 20 plus years n never have i seen a recovery like that.




And still after all that they robbed him his comeback. Soon as they said Split Decision I knew theyd do him dirty.


IT HAPPENS AAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL the time in boxing.

[J u s T C]

Fury Robbed the fact 1 Judge would of had wilder winning without the knockdowns says it all. Even Lou Dibella Wilders promoter told fury he won (Before the scores were announced)

You dont win boxing fights offa 2 rounds won when the other 10 you were getting totally out boxed and made to look the wild 1 trick pony you are.


Klit got decked 3 times by Sam Peter and won. Plus numerous others. This is boxing not a streetfight.


Fury spent 3 years inactive in the gutter, overweight addicted depressed. had tune ups against bums then went on to fight the most athleticly gifted in shape heavyweight. Schooled him, made the most epic recovery from a knockdown in the 12th round (the 12th needs to be emphasized here) He looked FUCKING DEAD EYES GLAZED and all. Not only did he get up. it was like nothing happened n took the fight to wilder. My jaw dropped. Been watching boxing for 20 plus years n never have i seen a recovery like that.




And still after all that they robbed him his comeback. Soon as they said Split Decision I knew theyd do him dirty.


IT HAPPENS AAAAAAAAAAAAAALLL the time in boxing.

Lmao @ NOBLEs opinion. That's like saying LeBron James is wack because on the street he would get roughed up and couldn't grt thr ref to call fouls.

This isn't a street fight. Hell even if it was under bare knuckle or traveller rules Fury would have still got a 10 count.

Lets say we're talking a boxing arranged street fight (because if NOBLE means spontaneous, then its gonna just be an MMA discussion). There would be no time limit before points. At the end of that fight it was Fury standing tall, dealing more damage with more gas

Lmao @ NOBLEs opinion. That's like saying LeBron James is wack because on the street he would get roughed up and couldn't grt thr ref to call fouls.

This isn't a street fight. Hell even if it was under bare knuckle or traveller rules Fury would have still got a 10 count.

Lets say we're talking a boxing arranged street fight (because if NOBLE means spontaneous, then its gonna just be an MMA discussion). There would be no time limit before points. At the end of that fight it was Fury standing tall, dealing more damage with more gas

Yeah knock downs don’t mean shit if you’ve been outclassed all fight. Fury didn’t just land single punches, dude landed full combinations multiple times. Wilder was just out there swinging impatiently, he said it himself. Got a few dead on but other than that, this wasn’t even debatable. Your judges were whack.

Yeah knock downs don’t mean shit if you’ve been outclassed all fight. Fury didn’t just land single punches, dude landed full combinations multiple times. Wilder was just out there swinging impatiently, he said it himself. Got a few dead on but other than that, this wasn’t even debatable. Your judges were whack.

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I know my opinion is outnumbered and I'll defer because I'm no boxing expert and I haven't even watched the full fight. You guys are right that boxing is not a street fight, and I'm probably wrong for having the tendency to view it through such lens. In any case, a rematch seems almost definite, and I suspect the result of that will be a lot less debatable.

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I know my opinion is outnumbered and I'll defer because I'm no boxing expert and I haven't even watched the full fight. You guys are right that boxing is not a street fight, and I'm probably wrong for having the tendency to view it through such lens. In any case, a rematch seems almost definite, and I suspect the result of that will be a lot less debatable.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I know my opinion is outnumbered and I'll defer because I'm no boxing expert and I haven't even watched the full fight. You guys are right that boxing is not a street fight, and I'm probably wrong for having the tendency to view it through such lens. In any case, a rematch seems almost definite, and I suspect the result of that will be a lot less debatable.

This fight will set up a three fight series, imo.

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I know my opinion is outnumbered and I'll defer because I'm no boxing expert and I haven't even watched the full fight. You guys are right that boxing is not a street fight, and I'm probably wrong for having the tendency to view it through such lens. In any case, a rematch seems almost definite, and I suspect the result of that will be a lot less debatable.

This fight will set up a three fight series, imo.

Originally Posted by Rant

This fight will set up a three fight series, imo.

This would only work if Wilder KOed him. If Fury won in any way, people will accept him as better and shy away frim a trilogy. People don't pay for controversial trilogies.

Originally Posted by Rant

This fight will set up a three fight series, imo.

This would only work if Wilder KOed him. If Fury won in any way, people will accept him as better and shy away frim a trilogy. People don't pay for controversial trilogies.

Originally Posted by Tag Team Champion

This would only work if Wilder KOed him. If Fury won in any way, people will accept him as better and shy away frim a trilogy. People don't pay for controversial trilogies.

People were clamoring for the rematch before the decision was even announced.

Originally Posted by Tag Team Champion

This would only work if Wilder KOed him. If Fury won in any way, people will accept him as better and shy away frim a trilogy. People don't pay for controversial trilogies.

People were clamoring for the rematch before the decision was even announced.

Originally Posted by Rant

People were clamoring for the rematch before the decision was even announced.

Had Fury got the decision, there wouldn't have been a boxing fan on earth calling for Fury Vs Wilder 2 Vs Fury Vs Joshua.

Regardless, if Fury won a rematch in a similar sort of fight, there's no way there would be a third. It'd be seen as "justice is served" other than "oh, well, for some reason let's do it again?".

Unless there are two sort of organic fights, of which the results are split, people aren't that into them. Nate Diaz Vs Conor McGregor 3 will generate a lot of interest, although that being said it'd generate substantially less than McGregor Vs Ferguson, Khabib 2, GSP, Woodley etc. Trilogies only sell if the guys fairly split the winnings from the first two.

Originally Posted by Rant

People were clamoring for the rematch before the decision was even announced.

Had Fury got the decision, there wouldn't have been a boxing fan on earth calling for Fury Vs Wilder 2 Vs Fury Vs Joshua.

Regardless, if Fury won a rematch in a similar sort of fight, there's no way there would be a third. It'd be seen as "justice is served" other than "oh, well, for some reason let's do it again?".

Unless there are two sort of organic fights, of which the results are split, people aren't that into them. Nate Diaz Vs Conor McGregor 3 will generate a lot of interest, although that being said it'd generate substantially less than McGregor Vs Ferguson, Khabib 2, GSP, Woodley etc. Trilogies only sell if the guys fairly split the winnings from the first two.