What are your feelings on Abortion?

Every child can be put up for adoption. If the girl is stupid enough to get pregnant, she should have to deal with the short term physical consequences.

Obviously only in situations where "stupid enough" is applicable.

Every child can be put up for adoption. If the girl is stupid enough to get pregnant, she should have to deal with the short term physical consequences.

Obviously only in situations where "stupid enough" is applicable.

I'm for abortion. I got my GF pregnant when we were both 17. She had an abortion. If she hadn't a couple of dumbfuck 17 year olds would have tried to raise a baby. We weren't in love, we weren't gonna stay together long term, we weren't responsible. If we had that kid its quality of life would have been shit. My quality of life would have been shit. Hers would have, the burden would have spread to our parents and relatives and their quality of life would have suffered.

Could all of that have been prevented, sure. But like I said, we were stupid and irresponsible. I'm pro choice cuz If other people fuck up and have their backs against the wall, is it better to stir up a cluster of cells or is it better to ruin a string of lives?

I'm for abortion. I got my GF pregnant when we were both 17. She had an abortion. If she hadn't a couple of dumbfuck 17 year olds would have tried to raise a baby. We weren't in love, we weren't gonna stay together long term, we weren't responsible. If we had that kid its quality of life would have been shit. My quality of life would have been shit. Hers would have, the burden would have spread to our parents and relatives and their quality of life would have suffered.

Could all of that have been prevented, sure. But like I said, we were stupid and irresponsible. I'm pro choice cuz If other people fuck up and have their backs against the wall, is it better to stir up a cluster of cells or is it better to ruin a string of lives?

Originally Posted by Barfight

I'm for abortion. I got my GF pregnant when we were both 17. She had an abortion. If she hadn't a couple of dumbfuck 17 year olds would have tried to raise a baby. We weren't in love, we weren't gonna stay together long term, we weren't responsible. If we had that kid its quality of life would have been shit. My quality of life would have been shit. Hers would have, the burden would have spread to our parents and relatives and their quality of life would have suffered.

Could all of that have been prevented, sure. But like I said, we were stupid and irresponsible. I'm pro choice cuz If other people fuck up and have their backs against the wall, is it better to stir up a cluster of cells or is it better to ruin a string of lives?

Adoption.

Originally Posted by Barfight

I'm for abortion. I got my GF pregnant when we were both 17. She had an abortion. If she hadn't a couple of dumbfuck 17 year olds would have tried to raise a baby. We weren't in love, we weren't gonna stay together long term, we weren't responsible. If we had that kid its quality of life would have been shit. My quality of life would have been shit. Hers would have, the burden would have spread to our parents and relatives and their quality of life would have suffered.

Could all of that have been prevented, sure. But like I said, we were stupid and irresponsible. I'm pro choice cuz If other people fuck up and have their backs against the wall, is it better to stir up a cluster of cells or is it better to ruin a string of lives?

Adoption.

[Iron Mike]

A part of me believes in a woman's right to do as she sees fit with her own body. Another part of me is put off by the waste of human life. I've seen videos of aborted fetuses who were still alive when pulled out and it is not pretty. It looks like murder to be quite frank, because you can see its already developed to a stage where it has all the basic body parts that every human has (in the videos I've seen). At the same time, there also seems to be a double standard in the "pro choice" pathos. If a man doesn't want to have a kid and walks out of that kid's life, he's known as a deadbeat. If a woman doesn't want to have a kid, she can have an abortion and be labeled "pro choice." I don't think the fact that a woman carries a child in her body makes the child more hers than the father's. But when it comes to abortion, she has the absolute right even if the would-be father objects to the abortion of a child that is just as much his (because its her body). Still, it is a very difficult question because there are legitimate cases in which abortion is justified..as in when it presents a medical danger to the mother and might kill her or, perhaps, when she has been raped.

[Iron Mike]

A part of me believes in a woman's right to do as she sees fit with her own body. Another part of me is put off by the waste of human life. I've seen videos of aborted fetuses who were still alive when pulled out and it is not pretty. It looks like murder to be quite frank, because you can see its already developed to a stage where it has all the basic body parts that every human has (in the videos I've seen). At the same time, there also seems to be a double standard in the "pro choice" pathos. If a man doesn't want to have a kid and walks out of that kid's life, he's known as a deadbeat. If a woman doesn't want to have a kid, she can have an abortion and be labeled "pro choice." I don't think the fact that a woman carries a child in her body makes the child more hers than the father's. But when it comes to abortion, she has the absolute right even if the would-be father objects to the abortion of a child that is just as much his (because its her body). Still, it is a very difficult question because there are legitimate cases in which abortion is justified..as in when it presents a medical danger to the mother and might kill her or, perhaps, when she has been raped.

[Wigsplit]

Very good case sir.

[Wigsplit]

Very good case sir.

[Manhattan]

Couldn't of said that much better^. I personally am for abortions....To a certain extent. I get when some people have abortions. There are times where they do seem necessary. However, there are so many incompetent and irresponsible people out there. The women who have had 2+ abortions or the idiots who don't wear condoms/can't even get Plan B and complain when the chick is pregnant. If your not going to rubber up...don't be mad when you find out she's pregnant.

[Manhattan]

Couldn't of said that much better^. I personally am for abortions....To a certain extent. I get when some people have abortions. There are times where they do seem necessary. However, there are so many incompetent and irresponsible people out there. The women who have had 2+ abortions or the idiots who don't wear condoms/can't even get Plan B and complain when the chick is pregnant. If your not going to rubber up...don't be mad when you find out she's pregnant.

Originally Posted by Sun God

I don't think the fact that a woman carries a child in her body makes the child more hers than the father's.

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Originally Posted by Sun God

I don't think the fact that a woman carries a child in her body makes the child more hers than the father's.

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[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Dave

Every child can be put up for adoption. If the girl is stupid enough to get pregnant, she should have to deal with the short term physical consequences.

Obviously only in situations where "stupid enough" is applicable.

So if a girl is "stupid enough" to get raped and impregnated, she should have to go through the horrendously body-shattering process of childbirth and give away her child? I don't think you understand pregnancy really, EtH. Everything that goes with it isn't "short term physical consequences", let alone physical; what about post-natal depression? My mum was dangerously low for five years and nearly took her own life.

That's a tangent. I think abortion should be a choice made by the bearer of the pregnancy and the bearer alone. Fetuses/zygotes don't have a CNS or any sort of consciousness so if the retarded pro-lifers saw sense and pertained to scientific proof then the whole "crisis" would be a lot more obsolete.

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And true, there is a distinct biological bias towards the female in terms of pregnancies. But the truth is, physically they are responsible. In no way does a man have any physical effects from the pregnancy, perhaps to an extent mentally and a certain amount of sentimentality attached to it. In most circumstances, the individuals involved rationalise the situation and make a decision: Barring that though, I feel that the female should be the one making the final decision as they are the prime bearers of all the physical and mental consequences that go along with an unwanted pregnancy.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Dave

Every child can be put up for adoption. If the girl is stupid enough to get pregnant, she should have to deal with the short term physical consequences.

Obviously only in situations where "stupid enough" is applicable.

So if a girl is "stupid enough" to get raped and impregnated, she should have to go through the horrendously body-shattering process of childbirth and give away her child? I don't think you understand pregnancy really, EtH. Everything that goes with it isn't "short term physical consequences", let alone physical; what about post-natal depression? My mum was dangerously low for five years and nearly took her own life.

That's a tangent. I think abortion should be a choice made by the bearer of the pregnancy and the bearer alone. Fetuses/zygotes don't have a CNS or any sort of consciousness so if the retarded pro-lifers saw sense and pertained to scientific proof then the whole "crisis" would be a lot more obsolete.

---------- Post added at 01:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 AM ----------

And true, there is a distinct biological bias towards the female in terms of pregnancies. But the truth is, physically they are responsible. In no way does a man have any physical effects from the pregnancy, perhaps to an extent mentally and a certain amount of sentimentality attached to it. In most circumstances, the individuals involved rationalise the situation and make a decision: Barring that though, I feel that the female should be the one making the final decision as they are the prime bearers of all the physical and mental consequences that go along with an unwanted pregnancy.

[Student]

Pro Life Except In Cases Where The Fetus Becomes A Danger To The Women's Heath, Conceived By Rape Or Incest, Damaged Fetus Or Where Financially And Mentally They Cannot Take Care Of The Baby. Psych Tests / Proof Of Financial Burden Would Have To Be Shown.

[Student]

Pro Life Except In Cases Where The Fetus Becomes A Danger To The Women's Heath, Conceived By Rape Or Incest, Damaged Fetus Or Where Financially And Mentally They Cannot Take Care Of The Baby. Psych Tests / Proof Of Financial Burden Would Have To Be Shown.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Student

Pro Life Except In Cases Where The Fetus Becomes A Danger To The Women's Heath, Conceived By Rape Or Incest, Damaged Fetus Or Where Financially And Mentally They Cannot Take Care Of The Baby. Psych Tests / Proof Of Financial Burden Would Have To Be Shown.

You do realise that your case pretty much makes you pro-choice?

You listed all of the valid reasons why abortion should be an option. Do you even logic bro?

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Student

Pro Life Except In Cases Where The Fetus Becomes A Danger To The Women's Heath, Conceived By Rape Or Incest, Damaged Fetus Or Where Financially And Mentally They Cannot Take Care Of The Baby. Psych Tests / Proof Of Financial Burden Would Have To Be Shown.

You do realise that your case pretty much makes you pro-choice?

You listed all of the valid reasons why abortion should be an option. Do you even logic bro?