Shouldn't have bought Skyrim again...

Can one of you explain to me what the specific different of Skyrim and GTA is to make Skyrim an RPG? In my mind, EVERY game is a Role Playing Game.

On the MMA site I post on, it's the epitome of hipsterism. Not a single guy on there plays a non indie console game, and the majority of them are guys who put over a grand into their PC and yet still claims it's superior to consoles.

Can one of you explain to me what the specific different of Skyrim and GTA is to make Skyrim an RPG? In my mind, EVERY game is a Role Playing Game.

On the MMA site I post on, it's the epitome of hipsterism. Not a single guy on there plays a non indie console game, and the majority of them are guys who put over a grand into their PC and yet still claims it's superior to consoles.

Originally Posted by Dave

Can one of you explain to me what the specific different of Skyrim and GTA is to make Skyrim an RPG? In my mind, EVERY game is a Role Playing Game.

It is, as it sounds. You have a specific character and you play a role examples would be; Runescape, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Fable, Zelda. Examples of non-role playing games would be; Fifa, Burnout, Tekken. I think the line is often muddied though, I see your point.

Originally Posted by Dave

Can one of you explain to me what the specific different of Skyrim and GTA is to make Skyrim an RPG? In my mind, EVERY game is a Role Playing Game.

It is, as it sounds. You have a specific character and you play a role examples would be; Runescape, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Fable, Zelda. Examples of non-role playing games would be; Fifa, Burnout, Tekken. I think the line is often muddied though, I see your point.

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basically anything that gives you choices like good/evil, option A,b,c or the optoins to apply points into skills or some shit


and Console<PC

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basically anything that gives you choices like good/evil, option A,b,c or the optoins to apply points into skills or some shit


and Console<PC

[J u s T C]

You can't praise GTA 4 for letting you walk into little buildings with absolutely fuck all going on inside them using no load screens for them over Skyrim needing load screens to load huge dungeons crammed with detail.

And nah not hipster shit. The game is generic as fuck. The only good thing about Skyrim is the world and the lore and even the lore is presented poorly outside books. You speak to 10 different guys and they all drone on in the same swatzernega accent the yarl of windhelm does. The writing is dry as fuck and the voice actors are dire.

I've probably put a few hundred hours into Skyrim including the DLC over the years. It's not a poor game but it has huge issues and is stupidly over rated.

[J u s T C]

You can't praise GTA 4 for letting you walk into little buildings with absolutely fuck all going on inside them using no load screens for them over Skyrim needing load screens to load huge dungeons crammed with detail.

And nah not hipster shit. The game is generic as fuck. The only good thing about Skyrim is the world and the lore and even the lore is presented poorly outside books. You speak to 10 different guys and they all drone on in the same swatzernega accent the yarl of windhelm does. The writing is dry as fuck and the voice actors are dire.

I've probably put a few hundred hours into Skyrim including the DLC over the years. It's not a poor game but it has huge issues and is stupidly over rated.

[J u s T C]

Vitriol. Have you ever played Morrowind or Oblivion?

I get the feeling you haven't.

[J u s T C]

Vitriol. Have you ever played Morrowind or Oblivion?

I get the feeling you haven't.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Just C

Vitriol. Have you ever played Morrowind or Oblivion?

I get the feeling you haven't.

I've played both, ain't no pontificating going on here.

I was going to say that Morrowind and Oblivion were heavily storyline based.

Skyrim allows you to craft a fuller character and has a broader spectrum of playing styles. Alchemy, for one. Most realistic range of herbs and ingredients with endless possibilities. I think maybe I'm enticed by the immense detail rather than the instant reward system you see in most games.

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Originally Posted by Crysis

If you're not modding Skyrim you have no clue what you're missing.

And subsequently are a console-fag.

THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

[ViTRiOL]

Originally Posted by Just C

Vitriol. Have you ever played Morrowind or Oblivion?

I get the feeling you haven't.

I've played both, ain't no pontificating going on here.

I was going to say that Morrowind and Oblivion were heavily storyline based.

Skyrim allows you to craft a fuller character and has a broader spectrum of playing styles. Alchemy, for one. Most realistic range of herbs and ingredients with endless possibilities. I think maybe I'm enticed by the immense detail rather than the instant reward system you see in most games.

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Originally Posted by Crysis

If you're not modding Skyrim you have no clue what you're missing.

And subsequently are a console-fag.

THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

there is honestly no question as to which is superior, it's like combating a game boy advanced with an Xbox one. The only thing that justifies the playing of an xbox/playstation is your preference towards them, everyone has their opinions, simply liking one more is totally fine, but to state that a playstation or xbox is better than a PC (even bought with the same amount of money as the consoles) is factually wrong. I'm waiting for someone to challenge this point, too, so I can prove them wrong.

Skyrim is definitely a master-piece. I played it for hours on end until I could say in confidence that I had done almost everything there was to do, then, when I was exposed to the wonderful & mystifying world of modding, I did that same process over again about 5 more times.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL

THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

there is honestly no question as to which is superior, it's like combating a game boy advanced with an Xbox one. The only thing that justifies the playing of an xbox/playstation is your preference towards them, everyone has their opinions, simply liking one more is totally fine, but to state that a playstation or xbox is better than a PC (even bought with the same amount of money as the consoles) is factually wrong. I'm waiting for someone to challenge this point, too, so I can prove them wrong.

Skyrim is definitely a master-piece. I played it for hours on end until I could say in confidence that I had done almost everything there was to do, then, when I was exposed to the wonderful & mystifying world of modding, I did that same process over again about 5 more times.

Just C, there is nothing happening in the Skyrim buildings either. Essentially, all that's going on is people walking around.

Let's take one dungeon I kind of remember into account.

A werewolf attacks you, some monster things spawn in a room, a trap in a door way is there and in the main room a boss comes from a coffin and you have to kill him. The dungeon is pretty huge, but nothing is actually happening. In douche gaming language, the werewolf is just an enemy spawning from a trigger. The monsters are just several enemies spawning from a trigger. The trap is just an animation coming from a trigger with a damage effect on it. Main boss is trigger / animation / spawn enemy. It's not complex.

Just C, there is nothing happening in the Skyrim buildings either. Essentially, all that's going on is people walking around.

Let's take one dungeon I kind of remember into account.

A werewolf attacks you, some monster things spawn in a room, a trap in a door way is there and in the main room a boss comes from a coffin and you have to kill him. The dungeon is pretty huge, but nothing is actually happening. In douche gaming language, the werewolf is just an enemy spawning from a trigger. The monsters are just several enemies spawning from a trigger. The trap is just an animation coming from a trigger with a damage effect on it. Main boss is trigger / animation / spawn enemy. It's not complex.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Dave

Just C, there is nothing happening in the Skyrim buildings either. Essentially, all that's going on is people walking around.

Let's take one dungeon I kind of remember into account.

A werewolf attacks you, some monster things spawn in a room, a trap in a door way is there and in the main room a boss comes from a coffin and you have to kill him. The dungeon is pretty huge, but nothing is actually happening. In douche gaming language, the werewolf is just an enemy spawning from a trigger. The monsters are just several enemies spawning from a trigger. The trap is just an animation coming from a trigger with a damage effect on it. Main boss is trigger / animation / spawn enemy. It's not complex.

Thats more than you'll find walking into a block of flats in GTA 4. GTA 4 was notoriously dull and lacking. If GTA 4 Enterable buildings needed loading screens everyone would be screeming scandal. There was absolutely nothing to them.

Skyrim for all it's faults the dungeons and buildings are meticulously crafted with decorations art work and lootable. Please stop man this is your dumbest argument yet lol.

If I put my side and you put your side to people who have played both games you'd be lucky to get 1% agreeing with you.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Dave

Just C, there is nothing happening in the Skyrim buildings either. Essentially, all that's going on is people walking around.

Let's take one dungeon I kind of remember into account.

A werewolf attacks you, some monster things spawn in a room, a trap in a door way is there and in the main room a boss comes from a coffin and you have to kill him. The dungeon is pretty huge, but nothing is actually happening. In douche gaming language, the werewolf is just an enemy spawning from a trigger. The monsters are just several enemies spawning from a trigger. The trap is just an animation coming from a trigger with a damage effect on it. Main boss is trigger / animation / spawn enemy. It's not complex.

Thats more than you'll find walking into a block of flats in GTA 4. GTA 4 was notoriously dull and lacking. If GTA 4 Enterable buildings needed loading screens everyone would be screeming scandal. There was absolutely nothing to them.

Skyrim for all it's faults the dungeons and buildings are meticulously crafted with decorations art work and lootable. Please stop man this is your dumbest argument yet lol.

If I put my side and you put your side to people who have played both games you'd be lucky to get 1% agreeing with you.

Originally Posted by Just C

Thats more than you'll find walking into a block of flats in GTA 4. GTA 4 was notoriously dull and lacking. If GTA 4 Enterable buildings needed loading screens everyone would be screeming scandal. There was absolutely nothing to them.

Skyrim for all it's faults the dungeons and buildings are meticulously crafted with decorations art work and lootable. Please stop man this is your dumbest argument yet lol.

If I put my side and you put your side to people who have played both games you'd be lucky to get 1% agreeing with you.

I didn't say anything about GTA having anything in their buildings, you've attatched this random thing to what I'm saying.

The fact is, Skyrim has no where near enough stuff to require loading screens. You say there is nothing in a GTA building, fair enough....but while you are inside the building every single thing outside of it is still happening. Car and pedestrian random spawns. Random sounds. Weather systems. Police' view etc. etc.

Originally Posted by Just C

Thats more than you'll find walking into a block of flats in GTA 4. GTA 4 was notoriously dull and lacking. If GTA 4 Enterable buildings needed loading screens everyone would be screeming scandal. There was absolutely nothing to them.

Skyrim for all it's faults the dungeons and buildings are meticulously crafted with decorations art work and lootable. Please stop man this is your dumbest argument yet lol.

If I put my side and you put your side to people who have played both games you'd be lucky to get 1% agreeing with you.

I didn't say anything about GTA having anything in their buildings, you've attatched this random thing to what I'm saying.

The fact is, Skyrim has no where near enough stuff to require loading screens. You say there is nothing in a GTA building, fair enough....but while you are inside the building every single thing outside of it is still happening. Car and pedestrian random spawns. Random sounds. Weather systems. Police' view etc. etc.