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  #11  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:27 PM
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@Phil Banks your talking like i'm garbage or something enlighten me what makes you think final word or stricc would body bag me?
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:27 PM   #11
 
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:33 PM
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i've heard both of them written they write better then you, both deliver better... not saying you trash just keeping it real and @ADONiS that's a new stipulation dude read the 2nd page theres a thread.... 10+ is RULE's stipulation so... you guys gonna need more 1 post multi's....

@Cory Kapono the reason you'll never get better you already think you a beast... where as I know i'm alright... an only wanna get better..... that's advice take it how u will
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:33 PM   #12
 
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i've heard both of them written they write better then you, both deliver better... not saying you trash just keeping it real and @ADONiS that's a new stipulation dude read the 2nd page theres a thread.... 10+ is RULE's stipulation so... you guys gonna need more 1 post multi's....

@Cory Kapono the reason you'll never get better you already think you a beast... where as I know i'm alright... an only wanna get better..... that's advice take it how u will
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:43 PM
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I don't think im a beast I think im pretty good for someone that has only been writing "battle" rhymes for a short time....I listened to final word's latest audio battle...are you serious when you said that this guy writes and delivers better then me http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=lb&id=575629 hahahahahaha i voted for him but damn c'mon son
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:43 PM   #13
 
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I don't think im a beast I think im pretty good for someone that has only been writing "battle" rhymes for a short time....I listened to final word's latest audio battle...are you serious when you said that this guy writes and delivers better then me http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=lb&id=575629 hahahahahaha i voted for him but damn c'mon son
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:51 PM
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:54 PM
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:08 PM
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@Cory Kapono haha do it... i'll even call the % it'll at least 60% win by my dude final i'd say 60-70% win.... @FiNAL WoRD ....
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:08 PM   #16
 
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@Cory Kapono haha do it... i'll even call the % it'll at least 60% win by my dude final i'd say 60-70% win.... @FiNAL WoRD ....
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:17 PM
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lmao fine call it like that he's your crew member so I see you looking out for him but if I put my mind on final word I will destroy him I chewed him up awhile back in a thread when everyone was putting bars up in that diss the person above you thread..no punchlines just straight clowned him lol ask that nigga bout that
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:17 PM   #17
 
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lmao fine call it like that he's your crew member so I see you looking out for him but if I put my mind on final word I will destroy him I chewed him up awhile back in a thread when everyone was putting bars up in that diss the person above you thread..no punchlines just straight clowned him lol ask that nigga bout that
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:19 PM
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beat him then an prove it..... or go at stricc has nothing to do with crew members it's my opinion win an you change it...also a good step to proving you back up your shit talking
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beat him then an prove it..... or go at stricc has nothing to do with crew members it's my opinion win an you change it...also a good step to proving you back up your shit talking
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:23 PM
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Whoever get's in Illmania. It'll be dope. Personally I wish we could get LoD and Masonic in. Classick, DPS, and AC's is cool and all but the more we have the more it'll pop off.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:35 PM
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We're here to compete. We're making I3 have more quality battle. We can contend with all the other squads. I like our chances. And Phil & I don't have any beef.. I think.

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Get the fuck out of here dude. We get it... You've told me the same shit 10 times, 10 different ways. I hope our crews battle in I3, since battling > talking. This thread was basically just for RULE to know we got a squad ready.
our crews could battle before the tourney and the loser bows out... make it more interesting....
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We're here to compete. We're making I3 have more quality battle. We can contend with all the other squads. I like our chances. And Phil & I don't have any beef.. I think.

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Get the fuck out of here dude. We get it... You've told me the same shit 10 times, 10 different ways. I hope our crews battle in I3, since battling > talking. This thread was basically just for RULE to know we got a squad ready.
our crews could battle before the tourney and the loser bows out... make it more interesting....
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