Riley Cooper situation.

[Obey]

@NOBLE But why ''should'' people be doing things? Why can't people act off their own personal wants, rather than falling into a stereotypical category? Why can't a white kid dress like a black kid, or a black kid dress like a white kid? Why is there labels that surround society? Without stereotypes and labels, there's no racism. Without racism, there's no hate crimes. And what do you mean ''walk in their shoes?'' Racism was a long-long time ago, something we all couldn't live again. What people during that time went through is horrible, but so was the holocaust. We seem to be able to get past the Nazi/Jewish racism. It's being held onto by a thread that needs to be cut. Not saying history should be forgotten, I'm saying that white's don't own slaves anymore and shouldn't have so much hatred built towards them. I've learned that color of skin doesn't define a person, I'm just hoping the rest of the world soon does.

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@Phil Banks - Agree'd.. someone's going to have personal hatred towards him during a game and really hit him. Watch his interview, he looks as if he's about to cry how bad he feels. He admitted he was drinking and got into an altercation. But the nerve of Marcus Vick to put a ''bounty'' on Riley's head is insane. Mike Vick was responsible for torturing thousands of dogs. Media needs to let this one go before he gets seriously injured during the season.

[Obey]

@NOBLE But why ''should'' people be doing things? Why can't people act off their own personal wants, rather than falling into a stereotypical category? Why can't a white kid dress like a black kid, or a black kid dress like a white kid? Why is there labels that surround society? Without stereotypes and labels, there's no racism. Without racism, there's no hate crimes. And what do you mean ''walk in their shoes?'' Racism was a long-long time ago, something we all couldn't live again. What people during that time went through is horrible, but so was the holocaust. We seem to be able to get past the Nazi/Jewish racism. It's being held onto by a thread that needs to be cut. Not saying history should be forgotten, I'm saying that white's don't own slaves anymore and shouldn't have so much hatred built towards them. I've learned that color of skin doesn't define a person, I'm just hoping the rest of the world soon does.

---------- Post added at 04:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 PM ----------

@Phil Banks - Agree'd.. someone's going to have personal hatred towards him during a game and really hit him. Watch his interview, he looks as if he's about to cry how bad he feels. He admitted he was drinking and got into an altercation. But the nerve of Marcus Vick to put a ''bounty'' on Riley's head is insane. Mike Vick was responsible for torturing thousands of dogs. Media needs to let this one go before he gets seriously injured during the season.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

@NOBLE But why ''should'' people be doing things? Why can't people act off their own personal wants, rather than falling into a stereotypical category? Why can't a white kid dress like a black kid, or a black kid dress like a white kid? Why is there labels that surround society? Without stereotypes and labels, there's no racism. Without racism, there's no hate crimes. And what do you mean ''walk in their shoes?'' Racism was a long-long time ago, something we all couldn't live again. What people during that time went through is horrible, but so was the holocaust. We seem to be able to get past the Nazi/Jewish racism. It's being held onto by a thread that needs to be cut. Not saying history should be forgotten, I'm saying that white's don't own slaves anymore and shouldn't have so much hatred built towards them. I've learned that color of skin doesn't define a person, I'm just hoping the rest of the world soon does.

I just think its naive to presume how black people should react to something, or what gay people should do, or how other minorities should behave if you do not fit into any of these categories yourself. There are things about people, races and groups that you will never understand. You would almost have to be born again as someone from that race or group to fully understand. When you're saying "they should do this" or "they should do that" and you aren't talking from personal experience, it just sounds foolish.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

@NOBLE But why ''should'' people be doing things? Why can't people act off their own personal wants, rather than falling into a stereotypical category? Why can't a white kid dress like a black kid, or a black kid dress like a white kid? Why is there labels that surround society? Without stereotypes and labels, there's no racism. Without racism, there's no hate crimes. And what do you mean ''walk in their shoes?'' Racism was a long-long time ago, something we all couldn't live again. What people during that time went through is horrible, but so was the holocaust. We seem to be able to get past the Nazi/Jewish racism. It's being held onto by a thread that needs to be cut. Not saying history should be forgotten, I'm saying that white's don't own slaves anymore and shouldn't have so much hatred built towards them. I've learned that color of skin doesn't define a person, I'm just hoping the rest of the world soon does.

I just think its naive to presume how black people should react to something, or what gay people should do, or how other minorities should behave if you do not fit into any of these categories yourself. There are things about people, races and groups that you will never understand. You would almost have to be born again as someone from that race or group to fully understand. When you're saying "they should do this" or "they should do that" and you aren't talking from personal experience, it just sounds foolish.

[V3numb]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I just think its naive to presume how black people should react to something, or what gay people should do, or how other minorities should behave if you do not fit into any of these categories yourself. There are things about people, races and groups that you will never understand. You would almost have to be born again as someone from that race or group to fully understand. When you're saying "they should do this" or "they should do that" and you aren't talking from personal experience, it just sounds foolish.

pretty much this..

[V3numb]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

I just think its naive to presume how black people should react to something, or what gay people should do, or how other minorities should behave if you do not fit into any of these categories yourself. There are things about people, races and groups that you will never understand. You would almost have to be born again as someone from that race or group to fully understand. When you're saying "they should do this" or "they should do that" and you aren't talking from personal experience, it just sounds foolish.

pretty much this..

[Phil Banks]

Marcus Vick went undrafted hes fucken stupid.... enough wasted talent between those 2 retards to create a player..... im not an eagles fan i couldnt careless but that lame....same time when u drunk an mad shit happens ppl need to chill the fuck out

[Phil Banks]

Marcus Vick went undrafted hes fucken stupid.... enough wasted talent between those 2 retards to create a player..... im not an eagles fan i couldnt careless but that lame....same time when u drunk an mad shit happens ppl need to chill the fuck out

[mister jon flako]

the word defines it's as being ignorant..so techically any1 can be a nigger//what about the word fag,,that means bundle of sticks..or even the word gay which means happy,,slang fucks up alot of shit...this is just a distraction by the media to put minds on things that arent important so people forget what really is important,,and thats the government fucking up ameerica and turning pocket upside dwon to full fill an immenmet domain to lessen population, regulate gun control for a new era of life,,the new world order,,

[mister jon flako]

the word defines it's as being ignorant..so techically any1 can be a nigger//what about the word fag,,that means bundle of sticks..or even the word gay which means happy,,slang fucks up alot of shit...this is just a distraction by the media to put minds on things that arent important so people forget what really is important,,and thats the government fucking up ameerica and turning pocket upside dwon to full fill an immenmet domain to lessen population, regulate gun control for a new era of life,,the new world order,,

[Obey]

@NOBLE But my point is, as long as there's such a negative reaction to something so small such as this, we'll never escape the problem.

[Obey]

@NOBLE But my point is, as long as there's such a negative reaction to something so small such as this, we'll never escape the problem.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

@NOBLE But my point is, as long as there's such a negative reaction to something so small such as this, we'll never escape the problem.

If they were reacting purely because that one football player used the 'n' word, then yea, I would agree with you that it's a huge reaction over "something so small." However, I doubt that all the reactions are ONLY because of that one incident rather than what it represents in the minds of those who are reacting, which is a much bigger 'not so small' problem in society at large. At the same time, I wouldn't presume how "small" or "large" a problem should be for someone else unless you have gone through that problem yourself under the same circumstances or are going through it now. It's just like the Chinese water torture. It's counter-intuitive to think someone would suffer so much from just having water drops repeatedly on their forehead. But unless you've gone through it yourself, you may never fully understand why they react to it to the point where they are driven insane.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Obey

@NOBLE But my point is, as long as there's such a negative reaction to something so small such as this, we'll never escape the problem.

If they were reacting purely because that one football player used the 'n' word, then yea, I would agree with you that it's a huge reaction over "something so small." However, I doubt that all the reactions are ONLY because of that one incident rather than what it represents in the minds of those who are reacting, which is a much bigger 'not so small' problem in society at large. At the same time, I wouldn't presume how "small" or "large" a problem should be for someone else unless you have gone through that problem yourself under the same circumstances or are going through it now. It's just like the Chinese water torture. It's counter-intuitive to think someone would suffer so much from just having water drops repeatedly on their forehead. But unless you've gone through it yourself, you may never fully understand why they react to it to the point where they are driven insane.

[V3numb]

is it really somthing small tho?..

oh wait nvm lol i dont wanna get caught up in this thread

[V3numb]

is it really somthing small tho?..

oh wait nvm lol i dont wanna get caught up in this thread

[Streetz De Hood]

As a black man when issues like this pop up I challenge my race to explain the difference between the white population who never owned a slave making racial jokes, slurs, stereotypes etc and the black population who was never a slave making racial jokes, slurs, stereotypes etc? I ask them if a black celebrity was caught on type calling a white person cracker, mading a hillbilly joke, or stereotypical phrase like " fuckin white people always___" would the white community then have a right to protest outside city hall, make death threats, attack them on social media, etc? The fight for racial equality between black and whites shouldnt be a point the finger game. Wrong should be wrong for both of us and until we as African Americans also hold ourselves accountable for how we treat, view, interact, respond to the white population...there's no way in here we can realistically expect anything to change. I'm constantly telling my family, friends, and the black kids/teens I mentor to take responsibility for their image and how the world perceives them. If they don't like the rap their getting individually or how other races are perceive our race then change it through leading by example, getting an education, giving back to the community, unifying their household, displaying more self-respect etc etc. But every time I say it.. it either goes in one ear or out the other or i get called "racist against my own race".

[Streetz De Hood]

As a black man when issues like this pop up I challenge my race to explain the difference between the white population who never owned a slave making racial jokes, slurs, stereotypes etc and the black population who was never a slave making racial jokes, slurs, stereotypes etc? I ask them if a black celebrity was caught on type calling a white person cracker, mading a hillbilly joke, or stereotypical phrase like " fuckin white people always___" would the white community then have a right to protest outside city hall, make death threats, attack them on social media, etc? The fight for racial equality between black and whites shouldnt be a point the finger game. Wrong should be wrong for both of us and until we as African Americans also hold ourselves accountable for how we treat, view, interact, respond to the white population...there's no way in here we can realistically expect anything to change. I'm constantly telling my family, friends, and the black kids/teens I mentor to take responsibility for their image and how the world perceives them. If they don't like the rap their getting individually or how other races are perceive our race then change it through leading by example, getting an education, giving back to the community, unifying their household, displaying more self-respect etc etc. But every time I say it.. it either goes in one ear or out the other or i get called "racist against my own race".

[Indonesia]

dudes y'all can talk about this until the world ended and still think about it the same way you did before you started talking.

[Indonesia]

dudes y'all can talk about this until the world ended and still think about it the same way you did before you started talking.