I'm Starting A Business

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

The Iphone offers sex appeal.

Not Good Enough
(For Me Anyways)

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

The Iphone offers sex appeal.

Not Good Enough
(For Me Anyways)

[FreezyCT]

BB and IPhones will always come down to personal preference...no one brand is better than the other

i personally cannot stand the texting on an iphone, and would never get one because of it...i have my itouch and a blackberry....no need for an iphone

[FreezyCT]

BB and IPhones will always come down to personal preference...no one brand is better than the other

i personally cannot stand the texting on an iphone, and would never get one because of it...i have my itouch and a blackberry....no need for an iphone

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

BB and IPhones will always come down to personal preference...no one brand is better than the other

i personally cannot stand the texting on an iphone, and would never get one because of it...i have my itouch and a blackberry....no need for an iphone

To Be Perfectly Honest
The iPhone Is Miles Better Than Blackberry (Not Just Personal Preference)
The Advantages Of The iPhone Decisively Outweigh Any BB Device Out Atm
Except Blackberry London... But RIM Isn't Going To Release That Until 2013

I Cannot Stand Texting On An iPhone Either (But Thats Because Of The Screen And My Large Fingers And Not The Fact That iOS Devices Have Excellent Screen Technology That Registers Fingers Almost Better Than The Physical Alternatives).

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Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Lizman, I don't hate your idea.

I don't, but let me be up front and tell you I don't see it.

Here's the thing.

Sever space and server power is expensive. Very expensive, especially to host yourself. Youhave to have a revenue stream that is very, very large for this to work. Advertising probably won't do it. Games and whatnot are very bandwidth intensive. For this to work you will need your own server building, IT guys to run it, a several-thousand dollar Fiber-optic line, ect ect.

For this to work you have to be able to do the following: Either A: Somehow get a large enough base of customers so that you can make enough off of advertisement B. Charge for the service, to which you would have to have a large enough number of exclusive games to make it worth is, (I'm not sure about this one) or C. you have to get money from the company.

I don't see it as profitable.

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That's really what it is.

Sex appeal

It's cool. That's the way marketing works. It's a fashion statement. Just like there's no inherent reason why Nikes are better than Reeboks (other than a fashion statement) most people buy Iphones because they are cool, not because they offer functionality.

Let me tell you something.

Most of the people at my school have an iphone. Seriously. They have it not because it's more functional, or they feel they can get more from it, it's because they think it's cool and the "in" thing.

...
I Know All That
We Are In Negotiations On Company Reserve Of Server Space That We Can't Afford On Our Own (That Wont Be Paid By Our Advertisement Revenue However. That Is Going To Cover Other Outstanding Costs). Can't Say More About That Atm Though.
And We Wont Charge For The Service At This Moment In Time.
Like I Said The Profit Is Thanks And Make Belief.

Ugh And I Know All About Sex Appeal Too
I Know All About That Stuff...Why Do You Think I Went Into This Industry?
Thing Is Though.... Iphones Offer Excellent Functionality To Top It Off
FOR ME MYSELF, Buying And iPhone Wouldn't Be About Sex Appeal

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

BB and IPhones will always come down to personal preference...no one brand is better than the other

i personally cannot stand the texting on an iphone, and would never get one because of it...i have my itouch and a blackberry....no need for an iphone

To Be Perfectly Honest
The iPhone Is Miles Better Than Blackberry (Not Just Personal Preference)
The Advantages Of The iPhone Decisively Outweigh Any BB Device Out Atm
Except Blackberry London... But RIM Isn't Going To Release That Until 2013

I Cannot Stand Texting On An iPhone Either (But Thats Because Of The Screen And My Large Fingers And Not The Fact That iOS Devices Have Excellent Screen Technology That Registers Fingers Almost Better Than The Physical Alternatives).

---------- Post added at 04:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:09 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Lizman, I don't hate your idea.

I don't, but let me be up front and tell you I don't see it.

Here's the thing.

Sever space and server power is expensive. Very expensive, especially to host yourself. Youhave to have a revenue stream that is very, very large for this to work. Advertising probably won't do it. Games and whatnot are very bandwidth intensive. For this to work you will need your own server building, IT guys to run it, a several-thousand dollar Fiber-optic line, ect ect.

For this to work you have to be able to do the following: Either A: Somehow get a large enough base of customers so that you can make enough off of advertisement B. Charge for the service, to which you would have to have a large enough number of exclusive games to make it worth is, (I'm not sure about this one) or C. you have to get money from the company.

I don't see it as profitable.

---------- Post added at 09:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

That's really what it is.

Sex appeal

It's cool. That's the way marketing works. It's a fashion statement. Just like there's no inherent reason why Nikes are better than Reeboks (other than a fashion statement) most people buy Iphones because they are cool, not because they offer functionality.

Let me tell you something.

Most of the people at my school have an iphone. Seriously. They have it not because it's more functional, or they feel they can get more from it, it's because they think it's cool and the "in" thing.

...
I Know All That
We Are In Negotiations On Company Reserve Of Server Space That We Can't Afford On Our Own (That Wont Be Paid By Our Advertisement Revenue However. That Is Going To Cover Other Outstanding Costs). Can't Say More About That Atm Though.
And We Wont Charge For The Service At This Moment In Time.
Like I Said The Profit Is Thanks And Make Belief.

Ugh And I Know All About Sex Appeal Too
I Know All About That Stuff...Why Do You Think I Went Into This Industry?
Thing Is Though.... Iphones Offer Excellent Functionality To Top It Off
FOR ME MYSELF, Buying And iPhone Wouldn't Be About Sex Appeal

[Louie Dawgs]

Lizman, I don't hate your idea.

I don't, but let me be up front and tell you I don't see it.

Here's the thing.

Sever space and server power is expensive. Very expensive, especially to host yourself. Youhave to have a revenue stream that is very, very large for this to work. Advertising probably won't do it. Games and whatnot are very bandwidth intensive. For this to work you will need your own server building, IT guys to run it, a several-thousand dollar Fiber-optic line, ect ect.

For this to work you have to be able to do the following: Either A: Somehow get a large enough base of customers so that you can make enough off of advertisement B. Charge for the service, to which you would have to have a large enough number of exclusive games to make it worth is, (I'm not sure about this one) or C. you have to get money from the company.

I don't see it as profitable.

---------- Post added at 09:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

That's really what it is.

Sex appeal

It's cool. That's the way marketing works. It's a fashion statement. Just like there's no inherent reason why Nikes are better than Reeboks (other than a fashion statement) most people buy Iphones because they are cool, not because they offer functionality.

Let me tell you something.

Most of the people at my school have an iphone. Seriously. They have it not because it's more functional, or they feel they can get more from it, it's because they think it's cool and the "in" thing.

[Louie Dawgs]

Lizman, I don't hate your idea.

I don't, but let me be up front and tell you I don't see it.

Here's the thing.

Sever space and server power is expensive. Very expensive, especially to host yourself. Youhave to have a revenue stream that is very, very large for this to work. Advertising probably won't do it. Games and whatnot are very bandwidth intensive. For this to work you will need your own server building, IT guys to run it, a several-thousand dollar Fiber-optic line, ect ect.

For this to work you have to be able to do the following: Either A: Somehow get a large enough base of customers so that you can make enough off of advertisement B. Charge for the service, to which you would have to have a large enough number of exclusive games to make it worth is, (I'm not sure about this one) or C. you have to get money from the company.

I don't see it as profitable.

---------- Post added at 09:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

That's really what it is.

Sex appeal

It's cool. That's the way marketing works. It's a fashion statement. Just like there's no inherent reason why Nikes are better than Reeboks (other than a fashion statement) most people buy Iphones because they are cool, not because they offer functionality.

Let me tell you something.

Most of the people at my school have an iphone. Seriously. They have it not because it's more functional, or they feel they can get more from it, it's because they think it's cool and the "in" thing.

[-Dru-]

What I Really Want To Know Is WHAT EXACTLY DOES The iPhone Offer That, In Your Opinion, No Other Phone Offers

I never said it offers anything the others don't.

The iPhone just offers pretty much everything all the others do.

I didn't want to carry an iPod and a phone. I got an iPhone. Problem solved

[-Dru-]

What I Really Want To Know Is WHAT EXACTLY DOES The iPhone Offer That, In Your Opinion, No Other Phone Offers

I never said it offers anything the others don't.

The iPhone just offers pretty much everything all the others do.

I didn't want to carry an iPod and a phone. I got an iPhone. Problem solved

[FreezyCT]

the thing is tho - i dont need my phone to do those things...i have an itouch, a laptop, also an ipad...i know where youre going and i agree - in terms of capability, the iphone is probably the best device out...but like i said, it goes back to personal preference...i use my phone to network and talk - playing music/games/videos would only kill my battery faster

but i agree with AD - the iphone is sexy...you see it everywhere; tv and movies, magazine ads, music, ect - every celebrity has one, so we think we need one

[FreezyCT]

the thing is tho - i dont need my phone to do those things...i have an itouch, a laptop, also an ipad...i know where youre going and i agree - in terms of capability, the iphone is probably the best device out...but like i said, it goes back to personal preference...i use my phone to network and talk - playing music/games/videos would only kill my battery faster

but i agree with AD - the iphone is sexy...you see it everywhere; tv and movies, magazine ads, music, ect - every celebrity has one, so we think we need one

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

the thing is tho - i dont need my phone to do those things...i have an itouch, a laptop, also an ipad...i know where youre going and i agree - in terms of capability, the iphone is probably the best device out...but like i said, it goes back to personal preference...i use my phone to network and talk - playing music/games/videos would only kill my battery faster

but i agree with AD - the iphone is sexy...you see it everywhere; tv and movies, magazine ads, music, ect - every celebrity has one, so we think we need one

I Know The Appeal Of The iPhone. I Have Predicted That Appeal (And Apples Invasions And Whole Business Strategy For That Matter) 1 Year Before They Announced The iPhone 2G In 2007. I Already Said Before That FOR ME It Doesn't Pose That Appeal But I CAN SEE How It Poses That Appeal To Other People.

Its Cool If You Don't Need Your Phone To Do All Those Things. Though Admittedly, You'd Likely Opt Out For A Device (Here Being A Phone) That Would Replace You Having To Use 5 Devices At The Same Time, If That Device Would Have A Good Enough Battery And Would Likely Have Other Reasonable Attractions (Low Price Points, Etc). Am I Right?

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

the thing is tho - i dont need my phone to do those things...i have an itouch, a laptop, also an ipad...i know where youre going and i agree - in terms of capability, the iphone is probably the best device out...but like i said, it goes back to personal preference...i use my phone to network and talk - playing music/games/videos would only kill my battery faster

but i agree with AD - the iphone is sexy...you see it everywhere; tv and movies, magazine ads, music, ect - every celebrity has one, so we think we need one

I Know The Appeal Of The iPhone. I Have Predicted That Appeal (And Apples Invasions And Whole Business Strategy For That Matter) 1 Year Before They Announced The iPhone 2G In 2007. I Already Said Before That FOR ME It Doesn't Pose That Appeal But I CAN SEE How It Poses That Appeal To Other People.

Its Cool If You Don't Need Your Phone To Do All Those Things. Though Admittedly, You'd Likely Opt Out For A Device (Here Being A Phone) That Would Replace You Having To Use 5 Devices At The Same Time, If That Device Would Have A Good Enough Battery And Would Likely Have Other Reasonable Attractions (Low Price Points, Etc). Am I Right?

[Louie Dawgs]

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

[Louie Dawgs]

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i would need an amazing battery and basically a cpu...my itouch and BB both share the same problem of lagging (i didnt say BB was perfect) when too much is going on, so i can only imagine the iphone is the same way..i kno combining all 3 or 4 into 1 would be the "effecient" way of going about it, but i have two pockets and no problem filling each

Motorola RAZR MAXX

---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Verity

Liz I wasn't putting a downer on your research I'm sure this isn't the only research you have done. But the problem is youre in love with the idea and when you're in love with ideas you find it difficult to understand others (your potential customers) might not like the idea so much. It's human nature. I've ran businesses, I still trade, I'm studying.. It wasn't a dig I just thought I'd give some advice

I'm Not In Love With The Idea; I'm In Love With Mobile Phones
And When I'm In Love With Mobile Phones My Profit Margin Shrinks To The Minuscule Amount That I Will Get From The Awful Advertisement Revenue That Is Promised To Us By That Big Name Company That We Will Likely Go With. We're Like Google When They Were Starting Up.
I Take Anything On Board, No Matter How Fiercely I Defend My Points.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i would need an amazing battery and basically a cpu...my itouch and BB both share the same problem of lagging (i didnt say BB was perfect) when too much is going on, so i can only imagine the iphone is the same way..i kno combining all 3 or 4 into 1 would be the "effecient" way of going about it, but i have two pockets and no problem filling each

Motorola RAZR MAXX

---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Verity

Liz I wasn't putting a downer on your research I'm sure this isn't the only research you have done. But the problem is youre in love with the idea and when you're in love with ideas you find it difficult to understand others (your potential customers) might not like the idea so much. It's human nature. I've ran businesses, I still trade, I'm studying.. It wasn't a dig I just thought I'd give some advice

I'm Not In Love With The Idea; I'm In Love With Mobile Phones
And When I'm In Love With Mobile Phones My Profit Margin Shrinks To The Minuscule Amount That I Will Get From The Awful Advertisement Revenue That Is Promised To Us By That Big Name Company That We Will Likely Go With. We're Like Google When They Were Starting Up.
I Take Anything On Board, No Matter How Fiercely I Defend My Points.

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by _Lizman_

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------



Motorola RAZR MAXX

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by _Lizman_

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------



Motorola RAZR MAXX

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.