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[The Ghost of Freak]

@Subreal , yeah but @Tha Dope Man is technically wrong also... 2010 Fair Sentencing Act proves there was long difference politically between these two drugs and how they were enforced as crimes. Here is link...

Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Even if they are technically the same active chemical... two different ingestion methods do also have different physiological effects.

[The Ghost of Freak]

@Subreal , yeah but @Tha Dope Man is technically wrong also... 2010 Fair Sentencing Act proves there was long difference politically between these two drugs and how they were enforced as crimes. Here is link...

Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fair Sentencing Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Even if they are technically the same active chemical... two different ingestion methods do also have different physiological effects.

[Rain-Matrix]

K dont mind me , what does the ex crackhead know about it

[Rain-Matrix]

K dont mind me , what does the ex crackhead know about it

[The Dope Man]

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

[The Dope Man]

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

@Tha Dope Man ,

AGREED. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong about anything except how the two substances are viewed differently as far as criminality.... which I now see I misinterpreted your post about what the government calls the substances as oppose to how they are regulated.

Just trying to put in my 2 cents.... Clearly this thread has a lot of miscommunication involved.

I definitely agree, as I posted previously, both have the same active ingredient that effects the same neurochemicals (dopamine receptors in various parts of the brain I believe? might want to double check... sometimes norepinephrine is involved, but that might be more for methamphetamine ).

NOW, I do agree with @Just C in his comment that the ingestion method changes the drug effects and physiological response, but I was more interested in how egregiously different these substances are treated as far as sentencing despite the fact that they are so related in sharing the active ingredient.

Luckily, Obama passed the 2010 Act (I posted wiki link), which I highly suggest reading about for one's own personal understanding of drug politics in America.

REHAB NOW! (don't punish users, help them)

-FREAK-

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Originally Posted by Subreal

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

This argument is funny, but I have to say that both Cocaine and Crack are often cut, and still described with those names despite the impurities.... but that is going into a discussion about how users refer to quality. With meth, there are words like 'glass' that describe the clearer, less cut products. With coke and crack its more of a free for all of descriptions and words like 'pure' 'raw' .... yadda yadda yadda....

Why are we talking about crack again?

[The Ghost of Freak]

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

@Tha Dope Man ,

AGREED. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong about anything except how the two substances are viewed differently as far as criminality.... which I now see I misinterpreted your post about what the government calls the substances as oppose to how they are regulated.

Just trying to put in my 2 cents.... Clearly this thread has a lot of miscommunication involved.

I definitely agree, as I posted previously, both have the same active ingredient that effects the same neurochemicals (dopamine receptors in various parts of the brain I believe? might want to double check... sometimes norepinephrine is involved, but that might be more for methamphetamine ).

NOW, I do agree with @Just C in his comment that the ingestion method changes the drug effects and physiological response, but I was more interested in how egregiously different these substances are treated as far as sentencing despite the fact that they are so related in sharing the active ingredient.

Luckily, Obama passed the 2010 Act (I posted wiki link), which I highly suggest reading about for one's own personal understanding of drug politics in America.

REHAB NOW! (don't punish users, help them)

-FREAK-

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Originally Posted by Subreal

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

This argument is funny, but I have to say that both Cocaine and Crack are often cut, and still described with those names despite the impurities.... but that is going into a discussion about how users refer to quality. With meth, there are words like 'glass' that describe the clearer, less cut products. With coke and crack its more of a free for all of descriptions and words like 'pure' 'raw' .... yadda yadda yadda....

Why are we talking about crack again?

[J u s T C]

It's not even about that. People are trying to say their the same like they are the same price, same effects and Coke every turned entire community's to shit.

By your logic crack wouldn't even exist because it's the same shit as coke which was already around.

All these people just.. WAISTED THEIR TIME cooking crack for no fucking reason when that obviously ISN'T the case

If they were the same. a couple hits of crack would cost £120.

[J u s T C]

It's not even about that. People are trying to say their the same like they are the same price, same effects and Coke every turned entire community's to shit.

By your logic crack wouldn't even exist because it's the same shit as coke which was already around.

All these people just.. WAISTED THEIR TIME cooking crack for no fucking reason when that obviously ISN'T the case

If they were the same. a couple hits of crack would cost £120.

[The Dope Man]

When did i say anything about Criminal sentences??? i just said there refered to as 1 name.

People added baking soda and cooked cocaine to crack in order to expand their product, plus the high was shorter so the customer would be more likely to come back.....

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i never said they were the same price either...

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technically, the dealer pays for cocaince cooks into crack, expands his product and sells it cheaper. But they're actually getting the same amount of cocaine.

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you wouldnt have Crack without cocaine. Considering its the only active ingredient.

@Just C if your saying The two are different because Crack is cocaine mixed with baking soda then ill stop posting on this thread.

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@Just C have you done Coke/crack before? seen it? had friends who sold it? been addicted to it?

All my info is from personal experience in my town.

[The Dope Man]

When did i say anything about Criminal sentences??? i just said there refered to as 1 name.

People added baking soda and cooked cocaine to crack in order to expand their product, plus the high was shorter so the customer would be more likely to come back.....

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i never said they were the same price either...

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technically, the dealer pays for cocaince cooks into crack, expands his product and sells it cheaper. But they're actually getting the same amount of cocaine.

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you wouldnt have Crack without cocaine. Considering its the only active ingredient.

@Just C if your saying The two are different because Crack is cocaine mixed with baking soda then ill stop posting on this thread.

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@Just C have you done Coke/crack before? seen it? had friends who sold it? been addicted to it?

All my info is from personal experience in my town.

[Subreal]

in this thread: Dopeman admitting to being a crack head

[Subreal]

in this thread: Dopeman admitting to being a crack head

[The Dope Man]

i NEVER smoked crack before. It's not my fault that ive been around it most of my life.

I have my fair share of experience with drugs...nothing to brag about...

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tbh.. there's a new epidemic... Prescription Pain Meds are on tha Takeover...

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Originally Posted by Just C

That's like saying BLNK is a gold medal Olympic runner because him and usain bolt are made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus when they aren't. cause and effect

Usain bolt produces more oxygen, has more muscle mass, & prolly more of those other chemicals to make him run faster........

[The Dope Man]

i NEVER smoked crack before. It's not my fault that ive been around it most of my life.

I have my fair share of experience with drugs...nothing to brag about...

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tbh.. there's a new epidemic... Prescription Pain Meds are on tha Takeover...

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Originally Posted by Just C

That's like saying BLNK is a gold medal Olympic runner because him and usain bolt are made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus when they aren't. cause and effect

Usain bolt produces more oxygen, has more muscle mass, & prolly more of those other chemicals to make him run faster........

[J u s T C]

How long was you hooked on crack for?

Good to hear you're finally out of that bad place.

[J u s T C]

How long was you hooked on crack for?

Good to hear you're finally out of that bad place.

[The Dope Man]

LOL never done crack before. Just had a friend who used to sell it.

My drug problem is oxy30s, & that shits no joke. Im on suboxone at the moment trying to get over my problem. Shits not funny. But idgaf if you wanna make jokes cuz i know none of you can understand what im talking about. maybe @Rain-Matrix aha

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@Subreal I agree with you 100%. glad someone has some common sense & doesnt argue for the sake of arguing.

[The Dope Man]

LOL never done crack before. Just had a friend who used to sell it.

My drug problem is oxy30s, & that shits no joke. Im on suboxone at the moment trying to get over my problem. Shits not funny. But idgaf if you wanna make jokes cuz i know none of you can understand what im talking about. maybe @Rain-Matrix aha

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@Subreal I agree with you 100%. glad someone has some common sense & doesnt argue for the sake of arguing.