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As most of you may know, time is widely considered to be the fourth quantifiable dimension of our universe, existing parallel to space. With this in mind, and noting the expansion of the universe in all directions, one must presume that time is then, inherently non-linear in its nature. My question then, is this: In what way, will the inherent non-linearity of time effect our perception of causality, and the state of cause and effect?
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As most of you may know, time is widely considered to be the fourth quantifiable dimension of our universe, existing parallel to space. With this in mind, and noting the expansion of the universe in all directions, one must presume that time is then, inherently non-linear in its nature. My question then, is this: In what way, will the inherent non-linearity of time effect our perception of causality, and the state of cause and effect?
 
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So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?





Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does here

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So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?





Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does here

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So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?


Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does
"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.
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"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.
Imo time doesnt exist, its manmade. Cavemen didnt walk around with gold rollexs, they didnt have clocks, none of that. It came later.. all time is, is A way to tell you what part of.the day it is. And the day.only changes because.earth revolves and a different part of it gets lit up by the sun... all a year is, is.how long it takes us to.get around the sun. Time isnt real, its just a way of telling you "when"


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"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.
Imo time doesnt exist, its manmade. Cavemen didnt walk around with gold rollexs, they didnt have clocks, none of that. It came later.. all time is, is A way to tell you what part of.the day it is. And the day.only changes because.earth revolves and a different part of it gets lit up by the sun... all a year is, is.how long it takes us to.get around the sun. Time isnt real, its just a way of telling you "when"


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"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.
Do some reading on Special, and General Relativity. The dimensionality of time is discussed in both. Time began, when space began. But, time does not move in a solitary motion. Its expansion, like that of space, is in all directions. Therefore our linear perception of time, as a chronological series of instances is not "time," it is simply the easiest way for us to understand time. Take this for example: An occurrence takes place fifty years from now. But, because time is not linear, this occurrence may then, cause an effect in our current time, or, in a time prior to our present day, etc. Also, here's an analogy to help understand this premise. Imagine a bubble, inside of a pool. As this bubble expands, it displaces the water around it, in all directions in which the bubble is expanding. The bubble here, is the universe. Time is the pool. Therefore, as the universe expands, it is displacing time around itself, causing time to move in the same directions as space. This is why particles are able to move, not only forwards, and backwards in time, but, to the left, or right, or up, or down.

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Do some reading on Special, and General Relativity. The dimensionality of time is discussed in both. Time began, when space began. But, time does not move in a solitary motion. Its expansion, like that of space, is in all directions. Therefore our linear perception of time, as a chronological series of instances is not "time," it is simply the easiest way for us to understand time. Take this for example: An occurrence takes place fifty years from now. But, because time is not linear, this occurrence may then, cause an effect in our current time, or, in a time prior to our present day, etc. Also, here's an analogy to help understand this premise. Imagine a bubble, inside of a pool. As this bubble expands, it displaces the water around it, in all directions in which the bubble is expanding. The bubble here, is the universe. Time is the pool. Therefore, as the universe expands, it is displacing time around itself, causing time to move in the same directions as space. This is why particles are able to move, not only forwards, and backwards in time, but, to the left, or right, or up, or down.

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Aristotle and the the greatest philosophers discussed it, and Eisenstein Proved it. He said "Put a man next to a hot girl for a min, bet its gonna be a short min. Put him in a hot oven, bet its gonna be the longest min of his life. Thats relativity". Theres two views of time, the widely accepted one is that time is just human perception, that we needed it to exist. Because if time were to completely stop existing, would we even know? Im not too clear on the space time continuum (altough i think they call it that cuz theres a relation lol) Like for example if u go at the speed of light, the world shrinks into a pancake and the world around you ages alot faster than u do.
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Aristotle and the the greatest philosophers discussed it, and Eisenstein Proved it. He said "Put a man next to a hot girl for a min, bet its gonna be a short min. Put him in a hot oven, bet its gonna be the longest min of his life. Thats relativity". Theres two views of time, the widely accepted one is that time is just human perception, that we needed it to exist. Because if time were to completely stop existing, would we even know? Im not too clear on the space time continuum (altough i think they call it that cuz theres a relation lol) Like for example if u go at the speed of light, the world shrinks into a pancake and the world around you ages alot faster than u do.
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Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush
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Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush
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Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush
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Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


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It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush
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Time is a man made creation, as far as the clock goes. Back then, people measured "time" by tracking the sun. When it went down it was time to sleep, since it was harder to be seen and killed aka the adaptive theory. Also we produce melatonin in the dark

Anyway, time only exists on this plane. Or other planes designed similarly to this. What people don't understand is that some of us are thousands of years old because energy had to migrate onto Earth in order for human life to start. That's a truth people love to skip over..

Dinosaurs die and out of nowhere humans appear? Where did dinosaurs come from? Where did humans come from? Exactly. We migrate from space & when a planet provides the conditions necessary to sustain life, we emerge as micro organisms. We evolved from these micro organisms and lived as all kinds of beasts. The fact that we're human means we're almost at the end of this cycle on this planet. The human mind and its ability to recognize patterns and analyze situations is what evolved us until this point

In doing so, we lost a lot of our senses and 'super-'abilities, if you will, since we lose the muscles we stop using, or the organs, etc (we have appendixes which dont even serve a purpose) ...The Ancient Egyptians knew much more than we ever knew and believed we had 360 senses... The Egyptians found that a lot of human glands had an ability & interestingly asians referred to these glands throughout the body as "chakra", their version of the energy coming out of these glands. So basically at one point, before we 1-12 on the clock was invented, we transcended time.

So time is petty and really its nothing to be concerned about. Its only something you concern yourself with in this lifetime in this carnation, and you'll question it again next time around if you're incarnated in a plane where time exists, so whats the point

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Time is a man made creation, as far as the clock goes. Back then, people measured "time" by tracking the sun. When it went down it was time to sleep, since it was harder to be seen and killed aka the adaptive theory. Also we produce melatonin in the dark

Anyway, time only exists on this plane. Or other planes designed similarly to this. What people don't understand is that some of us are thousands of years old because energy had to migrate onto Earth in order for human life to start. That's a truth people love to skip over..

Dinosaurs die and out of nowhere humans appear? Where did dinosaurs come from? Where did humans come from? Exactly. We migrate from space & when a planet provides the conditions necessary to sustain life, we emerge as micro organisms. We evolved from these micro organisms and lived as all kinds of beasts. The fact that we're human means we're almost at the end of this cycle on this planet. The human mind and its ability to recognize patterns and analyze situations is what evolved us until this point

In doing so, we lost a lot of our senses and 'super-'abilities, if you will, since we lose the muscles we stop using, or the organs, etc (we have appendixes which dont even serve a purpose) ...The Ancient Egyptians knew much more than we ever knew and believed we had 360 senses... The Egyptians found that a lot of human glands had an ability & interestingly asians referred to these glands throughout the body as "chakra", their version of the energy coming out of these glands. So basically at one point, before we 1-12 on the clock was invented, we transcended time.

So time is petty and really its nothing to be concerned about. Its only something you concern yourself with in this lifetime in this carnation, and you'll question it again next time around if you're incarnated in a plane where time exists, so whats the point

Last edited by Godbody; 03-13-2014 at 10:14 PM.
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