I'm Starting A Business

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i would need an amazing battery and basically a cpu...my itouch and BB both share the same problem of lagging (i didnt say BB was perfect) when too much is going on, so i can only imagine the iphone is the same way..i kno combining all 3 or 4 into 1 would be the "effecient" way of going about it, but i have two pockets and no problem filling each

Motorola RAZR MAXX

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Originally Posted by Verity

Liz I wasn't putting a downer on your research I'm sure this isn't the only research you have done. But the problem is youre in love with the idea and when you're in love with ideas you find it difficult to understand others (your potential customers) might not like the idea so much. It's human nature. I've ran businesses, I still trade, I'm studying.. It wasn't a dig I just thought I'd give some advice

I'm Not In Love With The Idea; I'm In Love With Mobile Phones
And When I'm In Love With Mobile Phones My Profit Margin Shrinks To The Minuscule Amount That I Will Get From The Awful Advertisement Revenue That Is Promised To Us By That Big Name Company That We Will Likely Go With. We're Like Google When They Were Starting Up.
I Take Anything On Board, No Matter How Fiercely I Defend My Points.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

Let me tell you a little something Lizman.

Seriously. people don't buy the iphone for functionality.

Let me tell you something. I know the Iphone crowd. I go to a university, and one that is probably somewhat recognizable in America. I suspect a large number of Americans could tell you at least something about it.

This is Iphone country. We are the Iphone demographic. White, rich Cal-Berkley hipster rejects. If you want to learn about the iphone demographic, you can come to my school, it's a breeding ground for apple lovers.

And nobody, I mean nobody has their Iphone for functionality. It's sex appeal, nothing more nothing less. Your looking for, "what is the advantage given by the Iphone in functionality?" There isn't one that people buy it for. It's a style choice.

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i would need an amazing battery and basically a cpu...my itouch and BB both share the same problem of lagging (i didnt say BB was perfect) when too much is going on, so i can only imagine the iphone is the same way..i kno combining all 3 or 4 into 1 would be the "effecient" way of going about it, but i have two pockets and no problem filling each

Motorola RAZR MAXX

---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Verity

Liz I wasn't putting a downer on your research I'm sure this isn't the only research you have done. But the problem is youre in love with the idea and when you're in love with ideas you find it difficult to understand others (your potential customers) might not like the idea so much. It's human nature. I've ran businesses, I still trade, I'm studying.. It wasn't a dig I just thought I'd give some advice

I'm Not In Love With The Idea; I'm In Love With Mobile Phones
And When I'm In Love With Mobile Phones My Profit Margin Shrinks To The Minuscule Amount That I Will Get From The Awful Advertisement Revenue That Is Promised To Us By That Big Name Company That We Will Likely Go With. We're Like Google When They Were Starting Up.
I Take Anything On Board, No Matter How Fiercely I Defend My Points.

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by _Lizman_

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

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Motorola RAZR MAXX

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by _Lizman_

Ugh...
YOU STILL ARE NOT GETTING IT
I, MYSELF Buy Phones For Functionily
And I KNOW That Others Buy It For OTHER Reasons Such As Sex Appeal
Sheesh Christ I'm Getting Pissed. Dont Keep Telling Me About Things I Knew Half A Decade Before Anyone Else


And Let Me Tell You Smtn. I KNOW The iPhone Crowd. I Know Their Majority Social Identity. I Even Know Their Fudging Habits. I Know Where They Go To School. I Even Know What The Shit Looks Like That They Squat Everytime They Take A #2. It's MY JOB To Know That.
You Are Not Getting My Point. FOR THE LAST TIME... I KNOW Why People Buy The iPhone. The Millions Of Comments I Made Earlier About Functionality Are Because Of ME As I Look For Functionality When Buying A Phone. We're Off Topic Man. Keep Asking Them Relevant Question On Topic.

Oh Btw, I'm Not In America. So THIS Might Not Be iPhone Country. Dun Matter
Back To The Topic.

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------



Motorola RAZR MAXX

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

[IV]

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

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Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

[IV]

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

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Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

Nope
I Can Promise The Same Thing To All Developers, No Matter If They Just Started Up Or They Have Strong Hold In The Industry; More Exposure. The Aspect Of Trial Based Games Hasnt been Explored In My Description And I'm Sorry About That. Another Key Market Strategy Is The Case Of Offering Trial based Gaming And Application Environments To Potential Customers. As The Market Penetration Of Our Service Is Much Deeper, Due To The Wide Cross Platform Integration, The " next big thing" Is More Likely To Be Discovered On Our Service Than Any Other Out There.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

LOL okay.



anyway, I'll ask you a real specific question.

A lot of apps, especially popular ones are owned not by large studios and shit, but individuals and small groups.

How do you plan on staying ahead of the market? Your buisness model seems to be built to schill already popular games. In the mobile app market, finding the next big thing is where the customers are at. Franchises come and die quickly.

Seems like your buisness is built to be too slow for the market.

Nope
I Can Promise The Same Thing To All Developers, No Matter If They Just Started Up Or They Have Strong Hold In The Industry; More Exposure. The Aspect Of Trial Based Games Hasnt been Explored In My Description And I'm Sorry About That. Another Key Market Strategy Is The Case Of Offering Trial based Gaming And Application Environments To Potential Customers. As The Market Penetration Of Our Service Is Much Deeper, Due To The Wide Cross Platform Integration, The " next big thing" Is More Likely To Be Discovered On Our Service Than Any Other Out There.

[IV]

I'm on my phone so apologise for my awful grammar and repetition lol

[IV]

I'm on my phone so apologise for my awful grammar and repetition lol

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by Verity

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

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People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

I know a few people in America outside of college that have the Iphone, but colleges are definitely the demographic. Hipsters love apple. A lot of other people just get what's cheaper, that almost always being an Android.

The Blackberry is largely dead.

[Louie Dawgs]

Originally Posted by Verity

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------



People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

I know a few people in America outside of college that have the Iphone, but colleges are definitely the demographic. Hipsters love apple. A lot of other people just get what's cheaper, that almost always being an Android.

The Blackberry is largely dead.

[IV]

Lol America is broke by the look of it. I can honestly say I don't think I know anybody who doesn't have an iPhone, blackberry or HTC (apart from my mum, she doesn't understand them but she has an iPad) both of my sisters are pretty broke, both have iPhones. Yeah everyone in my college has iPhone bb or HTC. But everybody I know outside college have an iPhone and there's only a few (all girls) that have a blackberry. A couple with the HTC. When I go to London everywhere I look people have an iPhone (this doesn't include Vit) it's deffinetly a mass market thing more than a specific demographic.

[IV]

Lol America is broke by the look of it. I can honestly say I don't think I know anybody who doesn't have an iPhone, blackberry or HTC (apart from my mum, she doesn't understand them but she has an iPad) both of my sisters are pretty broke, both have iPhones. Yeah everyone in my college has iPhone bb or HTC. But everybody I know outside college have an iPhone and there's only a few (all girls) that have a blackberry. A couple with the HTC. When I go to London everywhere I look people have an iPhone (this doesn't include Vit) it's deffinetly a mass market thing more than a specific demographic.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Verity

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------



People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

I Had That Idea In 2005. I'm Like James Cameron In That Way
Also Don't Tell Me About Market Research Especially When It Comes To Phones
That Shit'll Explode My Heart Tbh. I Know The Phone Market VERY WELL. Just Keep Throwing Me Suggestions Or Questions On The Topic. NO MARKET RESEARCH For Fuck Sake.... *Pant* *Pant*...

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Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

I know a few people in America outside of college that have the Iphone, but colleges are definitely the demographic. Hipsters love apple. A lot of other people just get what's cheaper, that almost always being an Android.

The Blackberry is largely dead.

And Thats Why RIM Will Like This Idea

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Originally Posted by Verity

Lol America is broke by the look of it. I can honestly say I don't think I know anybody who doesn't have an iPhone, blackberry or HTC (apart from my mum, she doesn't understand them but she has an iPad) both of my sisters are pretty broke, both have iPhones. Yeah everyone in my college has iPhone bb or HTC. But everybody I know outside college have an iPhone and there's only a few (all girls) that have a blackberry. A couple with the HTC. When I go to London everywhere I look people have an iPhone (this doesn't include Vit) it's deffinetly a mass market thing more than a specific demographic.

I Don't Have An iPhone And I Never had A Blackberry In My Life
Thats Beside The Point Though. As 'This' Is A 'mass market thing', My Point Is Validated Due To The Fact Of Our Wide Cross Platform Penetration And Our Potential Reach To Uh EVERYBODY. Especially Since EVERYBODY (Smart Device; No Feature Phone) Has Either An Android Device (Majority Actually), An iPhone Or A Linux/QT Operating System.

[Lizman]

Originally Posted by Verity

Well... Good. I don't completely agree with Ad tbh. I think the iPhone demographic spreads a lot wider in England. More boys than girls ages 18-24 have phones, 24 plus I'd say it's completely mixed. The majority of adults I know have iPhones, race is irrelevant, rich and poor is also irrelevant tbh. Some of the poorest people I know have iPhones! More girls aged 18-24 do you for blackberrys but there's nothing too solid to base marketing on within that demographic. Personally I'd say just gather information from as many people from as many people from as many walks of life as possible would be the best thing to do. Target markets when it comes to mobiles has recently been a LOT more difficult to pin point. Any app is probably going to be mass market thing. Aim it at everybody.. Maybe America is different.

---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------



People are always going to have phones, people are probably always going to use those phones to network, people are always going to have se sort of banter activity on said phone. Lizmans idea isn't too slow for the market, it's actually years a head. If he can keep up with what's popular in the market and have a solid social network base.. There's plenty of room for innovation when it comes to it.

I Had That Idea In 2005. I'm Like James Cameron In That Way
Also Don't Tell Me About Market Research Especially When It Comes To Phones
That Shit'll Explode My Heart Tbh. I Know The Phone Market VERY WELL. Just Keep Throwing Me Suggestions Or Questions On The Topic. NO MARKET RESEARCH For Fuck Sake.... *Pant* *Pant*...

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Originally Posted by Ad Hominem

I know a few people in America outside of college that have the Iphone, but colleges are definitely the demographic. Hipsters love apple. A lot of other people just get what's cheaper, that almost always being an Android.

The Blackberry is largely dead.

And Thats Why RIM Will Like This Idea

---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Verity

Lol America is broke by the look of it. I can honestly say I don't think I know anybody who doesn't have an iPhone, blackberry or HTC (apart from my mum, she doesn't understand them but she has an iPad) both of my sisters are pretty broke, both have iPhones. Yeah everyone in my college has iPhone bb or HTC. But everybody I know outside college have an iPhone and there's only a few (all girls) that have a blackberry. A couple with the HTC. When I go to London everywhere I look people have an iPhone (this doesn't include Vit) it's deffinetly a mass market thing more than a specific demographic.

I Don't Have An iPhone And I Never had A Blackberry In My Life
Thats Beside The Point Though. As 'This' Is A 'mass market thing', My Point Is Validated Due To The Fact Of Our Wide Cross Platform Penetration And Our Potential Reach To Uh EVERYBODY. Especially Since EVERYBODY (Smart Device; No Feature Phone) Has Either An Android Device (Majority Actually), An iPhone Or A Linux/QT Operating System.

[IV]

Haha okay my bad @_Lizman_ if you know about phone market research I won't preach.. Although what i was saying was aimed at Ad haha. sounds like you know about it.. I get the concept and thinks it's a good one really, probably best aimed at HTC/blackberry etc IN MY OPINION because they're more likely to want to be able to play apple games, than an iphone user play a HTC/blackberry game

[IV]

Haha okay my bad @_Lizman_ if you know about phone market research I won't preach.. Although what i was saying was aimed at Ad haha. sounds like you know about it.. I get the concept and thinks it's a good one really, probably best aimed at HTC/blackberry etc IN MY OPINION because they're more likely to want to be able to play apple games, than an iphone user play a HTC/blackberry game

[Erupt da Monsta]

Yo.... i have android.... im interested.... this sounds dope.... didnt know u had your hand in such activity.... judging by how cats always make fun of your I.Q lol u gota be a pretty smart kid to be managing such tasks... good shit... link me when this is ready

[Erupt da Monsta]

Yo.... i have android.... im interested.... this sounds dope.... didnt know u had your hand in such activity.... judging by how cats always make fun of your I.Q lol u gota be a pretty smart kid to be managing such tasks... good shit... link me when this is ready