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What you could do @NOBLE is try to make trophy's that distinctly say ex. (Title champion )+year that they won so that way it can be prominently displayed where the awards normally. I think this is what the people with titles are mainly concerned about. That their particular title isn't properly adorned for all to see and know what distinct tourney they won..that way you can have the actual title holder have his directly under his name for the year.
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What you could do @NOBLE is try to make trophy's that distinctly say ex. (Title champion )+year that they won so that way it can be prominently displayed where the awards normally. I think this is what the people with titles are mainly concerned about. That their particular title isn't properly adorned for all to see and know what distinct tourney they won..that way you can have the actual title holder have his directly under his name for the year.
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Reset all time rankings and the way points work off of wins and losses like I've said before. So sniping is discouraged and the rankings are more realistic. Also, make people get a win every one or 2 weeks to keep their streak alive. That will give people a reason to battle. If someone feels like they don't want to battle since they won a GC or whatever then they don't really want to battle in general.


If I no longer have the titles that I earned with the hardwork of my brain / pen game then majority of those battles were really for nothing and I would have 0 motivation to continue battling or do any of those things over again just to have them erased. Collecting titles and racking them up is like rare achievements in a high skill cap video game that very few people can accomplish.. The type of shit you want symbolized under your name wherever you go because you clearly had the skill and put in the time/effort to set yourself apart from the rest when it was for all the marbles. A big reason people didn't make long runs in the LBA/LBT is because the title wasn't permanent. Only reason people have been striving to do that lately is to get the permanent title. That says a lot. If someone's satisfied after winning a title I don't think taking away their title will motivate them again because they already don't love this shit.. If anything it would probably push them away from battling even more
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Reset all time rankings and the way points work off of wins and losses like I've said before. So sniping is discouraged and the rankings are more realistic. Also, make people get a win every one or 2 weeks to keep their streak alive. That will give people a reason to battle. If someone feels like they don't want to battle since they won a GC or whatever then they don't really want to battle in general.


If I no longer have the titles that I earned with the hardwork of my brain / pen game then majority of those battles were really for nothing and I would have 0 motivation to continue battling or do any of those things over again just to have them erased. Collecting titles and racking them up is like rare achievements in a high skill cap video game that very few people can accomplish.. The type of shit you want symbolized under your name wherever you go because you clearly had the skill and put in the time/effort to set yourself apart from the rest when it was for all the marbles. A big reason people didn't make long runs in the LBA/LBT is because the title wasn't permanent. Only reason people have been striving to do that lately is to get the permanent title. That says a lot. If someone's satisfied after winning a title I don't think taking away their title will motivate them again because they already don't love this shit.. If anything it would probably push them away from battling even more
 
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If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The titles are good in more ways than one clearly
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I see where Noble is coming from, but I think taking away people's titles is a bad idea. It won't have the effect you are suggesting, at least not overall. I'm guessing that it will demotivate more individuals than it motivates. The lack of interest in LBT/LBA is something that demonstrates how temporary titles can be less motivating, and beyond that, taking away people's accomplishments is really going to take the wind out of their sails. Now, I do realize that you are not talking about taking the titles away entirely, and that you just want to see them removed from below user names, but that is one of the most important parts of a title. It is immediately visible to anyone who views a profile. Maybe a compromise could be splitting user groups so that the colors could be removed from the names of past title holders, while the title remains under their name on profiles. New groups could be created for current title holders to have the colored names.

As far as the rankings, I think this is an area that could generate wayyyy more activity if it were revamped. I like Bleu's idea of simply resetting it, but that's definitely too drastic because it would be like erasing history. Even though it is pretty much a bullshit record of history lol. What if we were to sort of "retire" the current rankings and preserve them in a thread, and then start fresh with a new era? I don't know what you would use as a headline to describe the new rankings, but something that reflects the fact that they do not include pre 2018 numbers. And don't use the same system. Develop something that better represents the actual ranks instead of just the mass sniper and ducking folks.
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I see where Noble is coming from, but I think taking away people's titles is a bad idea. It won't have the effect you are suggesting, at least not overall. I'm guessing that it will demotivate more individuals than it motivates. The lack of interest in LBT/LBA is something that demonstrates how temporary titles can be less motivating, and beyond that, taking away people's accomplishments is really going to take the wind out of their sails. Now, I do realize that you are not talking about taking the titles away entirely, and that you just want to see them removed from below user names, but that is one of the most important parts of a title. It is immediately visible to anyone who views a profile. Maybe a compromise could be splitting user groups so that the colors could be removed from the names of past title holders, while the title remains under their name on profiles. New groups could be created for current title holders to have the colored names.

As far as the rankings, I think this is an area that could generate wayyyy more activity if it were revamped. I like Bleu's idea of simply resetting it, but that's definitely too drastic because it would be like erasing history. Even though it is pretty much a bullshit record of history lol. What if we were to sort of "retire" the current rankings and preserve them in a thread, and then start fresh with a new era? I don't know what you would use as a headline to describe the new rankings, but something that reflects the fact that they do not include pre 2018 numbers. And don't use the same system. Develop something that better represents the actual ranks instead of just the mass sniper and ducking folks.
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I actually like @Row's idea of expiring flames. I think it would work great coupled with @Bleu's idea of requiring people to win at least once every two weeks in order to keep their flames.
@ILLoKWENT I'm down to make such trophies if people are actually for it. The majority of people in this thread seem to be against making any changes to titles, however. @Bleu can you be more specific as to exactly how points off wins and losses would be reorganized so as to discourage sniping? What you're saying sounds good but it's rather vague.

I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.
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I actually like @Row's idea of expiring flames. I think it would work great coupled with @Bleu's idea of requiring people to win at least once every two weeks in order to keep their flames.
@ILLoKWENT I'm down to make such trophies if people are actually for it. The majority of people in this thread seem to be against making any changes to titles, however. @Bleu can you be more specific as to exactly how points off wins and losses would be reorganized so as to discourage sniping? What you're saying sounds good but it's rather vague.

I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.
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I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.
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Dope! Any idea when it will get implemented? And will we also have the tiered weight classes that some have been asking for? I can see the unranked arena being re-purposed for such a thing. It's rarely used at all, so we might as well make some other use of it.
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Dope! Any idea when it will get implemented? And will we also have the tiered weight classes that some have been asking for? I can see the unranked arena being re-purposed for such a thing. It's rarely used at all, so we might as well make some other use of it.
No idea at all. I'll share the google spread sheet I made and link you the thread if you want to see how I worked out fixing the rankings.
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Originally Posted by NOBLE View Post
Dope! Any idea when it will get implemented? And will we also have the tiered weight classes that some have been asking for? I can see the unranked arena being re-purposed for such a thing. It's rarely used at all, so we might as well make some other use of it.
No idea at all. I'll share the google spread sheet I made and link you the thread if you want to see how I worked out fixing the rankings.
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